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So President Obama isn't "African-American", but he's "black".
Oh, and I always assumed that "welp" started out as a common typo and became accepted usage because it's funny.
It's a phonetic spelling of a way some people say "Well."
I thought the provenance of the term was the desire of some blacks to be (and to have other blacks be able to be) hyphened-"Americans" just as white people were.
Almost a decade has passed since this book was first published. As I mention in the original introduction, the opportunity to write the book came while I was in law school, the result of my election as the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review....
A few months ago, I won the Democratic nomination for a seat as the U.S. senator from Illinois. It was a difficult race, in a crowded field of well-funded, skilled, and prominent candidates; without organizational backing or personal wealth, a black man with a funny name, I was considered a long shot. And so, when I won a majority of the votes in the Democratic primary, winning in white areas as well as black, in the suburbs as well as Chicago, the reaction that followed echoed the response to my election to the Law Review. Mainstream commentators expressed surprise and genuine hope that my victory signaled a broader change in our racial politics. Within the black community, there was a sense of pride regarding my accomplishment, a pride mingled with frustration that fifty years after Brown v. Board of Education and forty years after the passage of the Voting Rights Act, we should still be celebrating the possibility (and only the possibility, for I have a tough general election coming up) that I might be the sole African American -- and only the third since Reconstruction -- to serve in the Senate....
Library of Congress subject headings for this publication: Obama, Barack, African Americans Biography, Racially mixed people United States Biography, Racism United States, United States Race relations
So President Obama isn't "African-American", but he's "black". This is the first time I've heard such a distinction, and I don't think it's generally accepted, but if so it's another good reason to prefer "black", since we often don't know such details about people when we have to describe them.
See this Slate article for example.
Pedants will of course chastise me by saying that they now decide that they will identify as African-American, despite being lily white
Deciding other people's race is not a game that ends well. It's a complicated process, but self-identification is usually the only way to go. There are no Race Police. Pedants will of course chastise me by saying that they now decide that they will identify as African-American, despite being lily white, and they would of course be missing the point. It's complicated, like anything worth discussing.
Self-identification is hunky-dory as long as you don't receive preferential treatment for certain self-identification categories.
As a copy editor who has to write headlines, I have a built-in bias against "African-American" -- or any "-American," for that matter. (The term, not the people.)
When I was young the term used to describe the trio above would have been "colored," which was preferred over other terms used at the time (particularly in my neighborhood). Later the accepted term became Negro, and then still later became "black." Isn't "African-American" now politically correct?
he was not intending any slight by it, and none of the other black students in the class seemed bothered. They were laughing at her just like everyone else was.
True - Lazzeri, Crosetti, DiMagggio, Rizzuto & Berra substantially overlapped at a time during which discrimination against Italian-Americans was pretty common.
Schwartze" never went out of style, did it?
You'll notice that almost no white people remain hyphenated for more than a generation or two. I'd say that this desire was driven by a desire to be more like other Americans rather than less, in hopes that the hyphen could one day be dropped.
"Schwartze" never went out of style, did it?
"Schwartze" never went out of style, did it?
Neither did Nazi uniforms.
Not remotely true. Younger white people are often re-hyphenating to avoid the negative connotations of being white. Better to be Irish, or Italian, or however else you can claim to be part of the great oppressed masses.
A child of very light pigment in my son's school from (and born in) South Africa was filling out college applications and listing himself as african-american. The school found out and tried to make him stop. I never heard the result of the squabble; it would be interesting to see, as he was absolutely correct in filling out his identity box.
Edit: Coloured people in South Africa are a separate ethnic group distinct from Indians, whites or blacks. They're often known as Bruin Afrikaners
Still, "person of color," while it thrives in certain academic and rhetorical situations, is unlikely to catch on as a common term or a colloquialism. It sounds as stilted as lots of other such terms.
So lets get back to talking about what sort of genealogical research one should have to do to be considered properly "African American" and entitled to all the myriad benefits such status entails.
Eh, I really don't think it's usually about claiming some sort of "oppressed" status. Lots of people want to belong to something identifiable that is bigger than themselves.
It's shvartze, you putz.
Not remotely true.
Also, white people are fantastically boring.
An interesting piece of data: the Census asks people their ancestry, and those who choose "American" as their ancestry tend to be heavily concentrated in Appalachia and piedmont areas of the South.
Yeah, this is one of those not-actually-happening things that only exists in the fevered imaginings of older white people
According to this idiot dentist I was seated with last week, "they" get scads! And oodles! She was able to use the right end of the correct fork and apparently has a decent practice going so I assume she's not a complete imbecile, but apparently the burning issue in the US is lazy nigigers cashing in on the massive welfare benefits ninety percent of her tax dollars go towards.
Once had an intern proofreader who changed all references to "South African blacks" to "South African-Americans" or "South African African-Americans" -- she wasn't even consistent!
The American idea of Ireland is a a rustic hamlet from before 1960.
Americans want to know: Was Van Morrison brooding in his youth?
My idea of Ireland has always been of a cold place where it rains all the time, which I've never altered since everyone I know who has ever visited there has come back and complained about it being cold and rainy.
That's my view of most of the British Isles.
Also, "that's crispy" means that's fly or fresh looking.
From what I recall, "welp" is believed to come from the same force that created "yep" and "nope". The "-p" sound is a stop, and it signals a kind of finality to the thought. You'd never say "Welp I think [etc]", but you would say "Oh welp". See this Slate article for example.
2: Travel companion wanted to go to "authentic English Pub" We went to place recommended by the Hotel:
a. Everyone else there had English accents, so we were not sent to a tourist trap
b. Beer came from hand pumped dispenser, was warm and slightly sour
c. Fish and Chips were terrible, chips were stale and fish as not crispy as it is possible for fried food to be not cripsy
My idea of Ireland has always been of a cold place where it rains all the time, which I've never altered since everyone I know who has ever visited there has come back and complained about it being cold and rainy... And also the food is really really really godawful.
Mistake number two was thinking ale is meant to be served cold and taste anything but slightly sour
Ale is supposed to be served at room temperature here
Not quite right, I think. The cask should be stored in a cool, dark room, so the beer should be sliiiiiiightly below room temp. Like 65 degrees or so.
The Germans and Czechs serve their beer cold, don't they?
(PBR or a cheap something like that after a softball game or whatnot, fine.)
Having just spent the day walking around London, my home for the past six years, I'll just say you guys suck and are doing it wrong. If you hate London, you're probably stupid. This is one of the five greatest cities in the world, full of incredible things to see, do, buy and eat.
Yeah. Part of the reason to serve mass market beer cold is to make it less flavorful.
Ale is supposed to be served at room temperature here, which I hear a lot of Americans claim as warm.
I wouldn't know. I've never tasted Coors, even when I tried.
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