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    posted 2 weeks ago by jyjjy to cardinals  |  52 comment(s)

    Former Cardinals outfielder Fernando Tatís once famously hit 2 Grand Slams in one inning and set a Major Leage record with 8 RBI in one frame but that may not be his biggest feat. Lately it seems that Fernando has been lighting up the world of graphic design and his all original creations are truly a sight to behold and the world needs to stand up and take notice.

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    1. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki posted on July 27, 2011 at 03:07 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    La Russa stays, Rasmus goes to Blue Jays for Edwin Jackson (plus), once Frasor (plus) goes to White Sox for Jackson (plus). Maybe?
    2. Good cripple hitter posted on July 27, 2011 at 03:14 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I like Frasor enough, but that has to be a pretty damn big plus if you're getting Jackson for him. Plus I don't think Jackson (plus) nets you Rasmus, given that Jackson (IIRC) is going to be a free agent in the offseason.

    Edit: Okay, I didn't see the MLB Trade Rumors post that claims that this is the exact scenario that's rumored to be going down. That's odd.
    3. YR Misses Reggie Bars posted on July 27, 2011 at 03:15 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I think the Cards will want more than an Edwin Jackson-level guy for Rasmus, who is under team control through 2014 and has all that glittery "potential".
    4. bjhanke posted on July 27, 2011 at 03:22 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I'm not at all sure that Rasmus' problems have to do with coaching. They look like Sophomore Slump to me. Colby is odd, in that he first came to the majors during a down year, had his first good year last year, and is, in terms of adjustments to the big leagues, effectively a sophomore. I think that's a lot of why the Cards don't want to trade him. It's also probably a lot of why he will listen to any coach, including his father. He's not sure why he isn't as good as he was last year, and does not perceive of himself as a Sophomore. But by my theories of Sophomore Slump are that it is one symptom of a larger issue in which players adjust to the league and then the league adjusts back, and then the player counter-adjusts, etc. Normally, a player comes up during a hot season, so the Sophomore one is weak. Colby just has had a weird career. Now, the personality issues I know nothing about. - Brpck Hanke
    5. Spivey posted on July 27, 2011 at 03:29 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    #4: The batting advice from his father and father/TLR disagreements didn't start this year when he was having a sophomore slump.
    6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on July 27, 2011 at 03:30 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I heard a rumor for Rasmus to the Yanks for Banuelos, Nunez and Montero, but I have a hard time believing Montero is moved for anything but a frontline pitcher, and I don't know what the Yanks do with Rasmus.
    7. you got a STEAGLES? you're gonna need a STEAGLES. posted on July 27, 2011 at 03:43 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I think the Cards will want more than an Edwin Jackson-level guy for Rasmus, who is under team control through 2014 and has all that glittery "potential".
    if rasmus comes on the market, the phillies had damn well better go for broke in trying to get him. i wouldn't move brown for him, and i'd really like to keep valle, but worley, cosart, singleton, may, pettibone, etc. should all be on the table if rasmus is.
    8. Greg (U)K posted on July 27, 2011 at 03:46 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So is Rasmus a legit CF?

    Excited Jays fan asking.

    EDIT: it's too early to call him a good GM (though early returns are positive) but Anthopoulous is certainly one of the most EXCITING GMs around.
    9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on July 27, 2011 at 03:47 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    if rasmus comes on the market, the phillies had damn well better go for broke in trying to get him. i wouldn't move brown for him, and i'd really like to keep valle, but worley, cosart, singleton, may, pettibone, etc. should all be on the table if rasmus is.


    Wouldn't the Cards be trying to avoid sending him to a fellow NL contender at all costs?

    I can see the Jays getting in on this. I think AA is going to be fun at the deadline.
    10. The George Sherrill Selection posted on July 27, 2011 at 03:49 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The Mariners are neither in the NL nor are they a contender. Send him our way!
    11. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki posted on July 27, 2011 at 03:56 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Via Ken Rosenthal

    "Money appears only holdup in 3-team deal that would send EJax to #Cardinals, Rasmus to #BlueJays. MORE #WhiteSox"
    12. Matt Clement of Alexandria posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:00 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Tweet-aggregators at MLBTradeRumors say Jackson to the Jays for Frasor is done, and the only thing holding up Jackson to the Cards for Rasmus is money.
    13. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn)  posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:07 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So is Rasmus a legit CF?

    Skills-wise, yes. He seems to play a bit distractedly at times (to my eyes, anyway), that can affect him negatively in the field. He strikes me as the kind of player who badly needs a fresh start in a relatively low-pressure environment. He needs a manager who will let off the gas and for his Dad to be a little less of a maniac. I think Toronto would be good for him. Although if all he nets is Edwin Jackson, I'm going to be mighty pissed.
    14. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:08 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Mark Teahen is also going to Toronto, and a prospect (most likely nothing special) is coming to the White Sox. It's more or less a salary dump on the Sox' end, although I could see the Sox keeping Frasor and dumping, say, Matt Thornton. From the Sox' perspective, that is essentially the motivation behind this deal -- dumping salary.

    The move in isolation isn't bad for the Sox, but it's the culmination of two really silly moves -- signing Teahen to a three year, $12(ish) million extension immediately after trading for him, and trading five+ years of cost-controlled Daniel Hudson for a year-and-a-half (well, now only a year) of paid-at-market-value Edwin Jackson.
    15. Dan posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:10 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Zach Stewart is the 2nd player going to the White Sox.
    16. attaboy posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:17 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Wow, anything short of a world series and this is horrible for the cards. Huge winfall for the jays...turning Fraisor, minor prospects and money into Rasmus, assuming that is how it goes down.
    17. bfan posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:17 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    well crap. the Braves need a CF, and Rasmus is a quasi-local kid (Alabama); couldn't they have put together something for him? Or is Rasmus another Nate McLouth waiting to happen?
    18. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:19 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    No cash in the deal, as opposed to earlier reports.
    19. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:20 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    well crap. the Braves need a CF, and Rasmus is a quasi-local kid (Alabama); couldn't they have put together something for him? Or is Rasmus another Nate McLouth waiting to happen?

    Jeff Francoeur?
    20. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:20 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Any word on what the deal to STL would be?
    21. DCW3 posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:29 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So is Rasmus a legit CF?

    He's been really bad out there the last two years, though, like Dayn says, that might have more to do with a lack of focus than physical skills. But he's still a lot better suited for LF.
    22. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:30 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Wow, anything short of a world series and this is horrible for the cards.


    I think I'd wait and see what prospects the Jays are sending along with Jackson. They've got a very good system (KLaw ranked it 2nd last week) and it seems clear they'll part with prospects (Stewart was a preseason #44) in a deal.
    23. cardsfanboy  posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:34 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So is Rasmus a legit CF?


    Yes, he has a tendency to be a little tentative in the field which affects the quality of his defense, but he has the talent to fix that. His poor defense isn't because of his lack of ability.
    24. YR Misses Reggie Bars posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:36 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I heard a rumor for Rasmus to the Yanks for Banuelos, Nunez and Montero


    Color me enormously skeptical that the Yankees would send so much talent in a trade for what would amount to a third center fielder, and one whose performance isn't nearly at the level of the two currently starting.
    25. SuperGrover posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:38 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    [quoteThe move in isolation isn't bad for the Sox, but it's the culmination of two really silly moves -- signing Teahen to a three year, $12(ish) million extension immediately after trading for him, and trading five+ years of cost-controlled Daniel Hudson for a year-and-a-half (well, now only a year) of paid-at-market-value Edwin Jackson.]

    Yep. I would often defend KW in the past, but his latest strings of ineptitude (turning FDLS and Gio Gonzalez into a Betemit and this nonsense) has left me to realize that we're in pretty bad shape. I don't see how the Sox can turn things around unless KW departs.
    26. cardsfanboy  posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:39 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Wow, anything short of a world series and this is horrible for the cards.


    Welcome to the world of Cardinal trades under Mo.... where we have yet to come remotely close to a break even on any trade (except I guess the Holliday trade, and maybe Edmonds) but generally speaking Mo does not know trades.
    27. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:41 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Trade of Rasmus to Toronto imminent for Jackson, Dotel, Rzepczynski, and that's it (edited) according to Strauss.
    28. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:42 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Weird deal for the Cards. I guess TLR undercut Mo a bit though. AA is a lot of fun.
    29. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn)  posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:44 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Color me enormously skeptical that the Yankees would send so much talent in a trade for what would amount to a third center fielder, and one whose performance isn't nearly at the level of the two currently starting.

    While I'm not generally one to buy into this sort of thinking, I believe NY would be an awful destination for Rasmus. I think the guy needs as much peace and Zen as possible right now.
    30. Dan posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:46 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So the Jays are basically netting Rasmus for 3 relievers & Zach Stewart while also assuming Teahen's contract. That's impressive.
    31. phredbird  posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:47 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Welcome to the world of Cardinal trades under Mo....


    yeah. it's not that i'm so much in love with colby, but if he goes we're gonna get fleeced, and that's what bothers me.

    shouldn't we be trading for a closer? *ducks*
    32. JJ1986 posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:50 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    shouldn't we be trading for a closer? *ducks*


    Dotel's having a decent season.
    33. DCW3 posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:50 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    39. DCW3? Posted: December 01, 2007 at 03:30 AM (#2630546)
    Unbefuckingleivable. Sure, dump the better, cheaper guy. Just because TLR hates him. For no reason. Other than he doesn't like the nickname "J-Rod."

    No, there's definitely a reason. Think about all the players on the last couple Cardinal teams that La Russa clearly despises: John Rodriguez. Scott Rolen. Anthony Reyes. Brendan Ryan. Notice anything they all have in common? I'm confident that once Colby Rasmus makes it to the majors, La Russa will tell him to stop walking so much, bench him, and finally engineer a deal to trade him for Kris Benson.


    Well, I guess Jackson is a little better than Benson, at least.
    34. Walks Clog Up the Bases posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:50 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So that was like, what, an hour where I tentatively felt OK with cheering on Jackson?
    35. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:52 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Joe Strauss is reporting "Edwin Jackson and relievers Octavio Dotel and Marc Rzepczynski

    Terrible, terrible deal, if so. Would be much better to option Rasmus and trade him this off-season.

    link
    36. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:52 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So, from the Jays end: they get Rasmus and Teahan while giving up Frasor, Rzepczynski, Stewart and Dotel.

    Looks pretty favourable for Toronto.
    37. Greg (U)K posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:53 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So for the Jays it's Stewart, Zep, Dotel and Frasor for Rasmus.

    The last two were really only here to net the draft picks, so using them instead for Rasmus is ok.
    Zep and Stewart are young arms, but not terribly exciting.

    All in all a nice price for Rasmus.
    38. RJ in TO posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:53 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I can't believe that another team actually wants Dotel.
    39. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) posted on July 27, 2011 at 04:54 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0


    I think I'd wait and see what prospects the Jays are sending along with Jackson.


    Now you can froth, foam and rage.
    40. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew posted on July 27, 2011 at 05:01 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Greg (U)K -- it figures that the two posters with Regina roots would post such similar items only a minute apart.
    41. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn)  posted on July 27, 2011 at 05:03 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    ####### horrible, horrible trade. Sell low on your young, talented, cost-controlled CFer. Get #### in return. I fully expect that Dotel and Zep and will force aside young relievers who are better than they are. I hope Rasmus lights the world on fire in Toronto. It's your team now, TLR. This team will probably win this crap division by a game or two and validate, in the eyes of too many, everything that's happened over the last six months or so. #### me.
    42. Greg (U)K posted on July 27, 2011 at 05:05 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Great minds from great places think alike.
    43. CraigK posted on July 27, 2011 at 05:05 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    We got one for the Kazmir trade, can we get an "Official Cardinals Fan Self-Immolation Thread"?

    Please?
    44. RJ in TO posted on July 27, 2011 at 05:06 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I fully expect that Dotel and Zep and will force aside young relievers who are better than they are.

    Rzepczynski is only 25, and has actually been quite effective this year, in his first real attempt at being a bullpen guy. I doubt you've got that many relievers younger and better than him.
    45. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on July 27, 2011 at 05:07 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I can't imagine the Cards couldn't get a better deal than this.

    Morosi reports they asked for Eric Thames but the Jays said no dice. Other teams weren't offering more?
    46. CraigK posted on July 27, 2011 at 05:09 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The trade: Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson.



    SELF-IMMOLATION THREAD NOW
    47. cardsfanboy  posted on July 27, 2011 at 05:10 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I can't believe that another team actually wants Dotel.


    Have you seen the Cardinals bullpen this year? We have 5 games that we lost in which we were up by multiple runs and had one out to go. We've blown 4 run leads in the 9th inning multiple times this year. I think we've blown 7 run leads in the 8th inning twice this year.(from memory not exactly sure of all the numbers)

    Still it's a terrible trade. Rasmus for a free agent to be pitcher, a reliever with an option for next year and a semi-decent reliever at 25 years old who hasn't lit the world on fire. The Cardinals have traded away three better relievers(Chris Perez, Luke Gregerson, Blake Hawksworth) in the past few years for absolutely nothing remotely comparable to Rasmus. (only winning trade is Edmonds for Freese I would argue)
    48. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki posted on July 27, 2011 at 05:10 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Per Al Gore:

    The trade: Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson.
    49. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn)  posted on July 27, 2011 at 05:10 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Per Olney's Twitter feed: "The trade: Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson."

    Whatever.

    EDIT: Coke, flavored with my tears, for Toronto selects.
    50. Shooty is in the Trust Tree  posted on July 27, 2011 at 05:11 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Nice work by the Jays. I remember when the A's used to get involved in deals like this. Ah well.

    Rumors of Carlos Beltran to the Giants are picking up steam.

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