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Friday, January 18, 2013

FICTITIOUS FRIDAY IS COMING TO MCU PARK

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posted on January 18, 2013 at 04:45 PM by The District Attorney to brooklyn cyclones, college football, football, mets, minor leagues | 23 comment(s)

In light of recent events involving All-American linebacker Manti Te’o, the Brooklyn Cyclones have announced that June 21st will be Fictitious Friday at MCU Park…

Anyone who purchases one ticket at regular price will be allowed to bring their make believe significant-other to the ballpark free of charge. Fans will also have the chance to draw a picture of their girlfriend, because obviously something came up and she couldn’t make it, so that their friends can finally see what she looks ...

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2551. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 02, 2013 at 01:49 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

christopher

you have been pretty consistent on the point that the sec is the only conference worth watching and all other conferences are filled with pond scum and rat droppings

and i am paraphrasing to spare the youngsters your smut talk

2552. Tom Nawrocki posted on January 02, 2013 at 02:17 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Miles is probably relatively bad at it, but are there any college teams who do well at clock management? It comes up so rarely and it's such a small part of the overall skillset for a college coach. Plus, you're relying on a bunch of 19-year-olds to know when to get quickly to the line, when to go out of bounds or stay in bounds, when to spike the ball...

It seems like most college teams don't manage the clock well. I think you ought to be surprised when a team does a good job of it.

2553. Rickey Fredonia Fudge Duckery Precious Twiddle posted on January 02, 2013 at 02:19 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

2. Sam is a crackpot.

Sam is also always right.

2554. SoSH U at work posted on January 02, 2013 at 02:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Miles is probably relatively bad at it, but are there any college teams who do well at clock management?

I saw a NW game where Randy Walker managed the clock brilliantly (he started calling his timeouts with the lead and the opponent in field goal range but before they got inside the 15), and the Cats ended up winning with their own FG at the gun. It stood out because of how rare it was.

Then he died, while Les Miles just kept on chugging along. So maybe it's not a very good idea.

2555. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) posted on January 02, 2013 at 02:26 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Miles is probably relatively bad at it, but are there any college teams who do well at clock management? It comes up so rarely and it's such a small part of the overall skillset for a college coach. Plus, you're relying on a bunch of 19-year-olds to know when to get quickly to the line, when to go out of bounds or stay in bounds, when to spike the ball...

as with long snappers, you don't notice the good ones, same with proper clock mgmt.

2556. Foghorn Leghorn posted on January 02, 2013 at 02:27 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

No, doubt, Tom. But Miles' mismanagement was playcalling. He gets the ball with 2 min, and surprises Clemson's stacked line with a pass for 8 yards. HAHA! So 2nd and two. Well, Jeremy Hill has been cruising this game, so get a first down, causing Clemson to burn a TO, right? Not even clock management, but "keep the clock running" management. Nope, he tries to surprise Clemson with ANOTHER PASS! Incomplete - clock stops. Well, okay, lets get the first down and start the clock again, right? Nope ! Surprise! Another pass! Incomplete, clock stops again, and then a punt.

Just some real WTF stuff.

2557. Foghorn Leghorn posted on January 02, 2013 at 02:28 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

HW, did you see the replay on the Michigan "first down" spot, yet?

2558. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 02, 2013 at 02:31 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

christopher

i did not. still devastated over wisconsin gacking away another rose bowl

2559. Meatwads stronger now, ready for the house posted on January 02, 2013 at 02:42 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

it was pretty bad, but it ended up better for south car. because when clowney ate that running back they had better field position.

2560. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy posted on January 02, 2013 at 03:33 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Has there been an explanation for the first down call? That was bizarre.

2561. I am going to be Frank posted on January 02, 2013 at 03:58 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The official was from the Big East - he was trying to gain favor with the Big 10 so he could get a new job. That's all I could think of.

2562. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:11 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Has there been an explanation for the first down call? That was bizarre.

The official was from the Big East

Which makes sense. The conference made it a double dip in the UCONN at Marquette game last night too, when they totally ###### up the beginning of overtime. They had the teams going to the wrong baskets for a possession, then when MU goaltended a UConn shot attempt they said, 'ah nevermind,' and switched the teams sides and took away UConn's basket and resumed play. The explanation from the league was particularly timid.

I haven't seen or heard anything in response to the measurement. Spurrier said he was later happy it happened, otherwise we don't get to see Clowney knock the guy's helmet off the TV screen and just snatch the ball like a handful of mixed nuts.

Both egregious officiating errors, and while human, I have never seen either in my life.

2563. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:16 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

the head official for the rose bowl was from the big east. he was the one who called running into the kicker when the wisconsin kid got plowed over and even the anti big10 folks here thought it should have been a roughing call

whatchagonnado?

2564. ASmitty posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:26 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Clemson won on gifts - they did need to capitalize on them, and did so in an exciting fashion.

This is a joke, right? Humor? Did you watch the game at all?

LSU had two plays all game, the forced fumble that led to their first TD, and the long TD run. Two. They were utterly dominated the entire remainder of the game.

Much ado is made of the fourth down pass made by Clemson, but really LSU was far more relient on big plays in the game than Clemson was. Take away either the fumble or the long TD run by Hill and LSU would have been sunk. What "gifts" did Clemson get in the game? I can't think of many/any, unless you conclude that it was cheritable of LSU to repeatedly let Clemson drive the length of the field or to let Clemson force repeated three and outs.

I generally concede SEC supremecy, but I just don't see how someone could watch that game and think LSU was the better team. They emphatically were not.

2565. Pops Freshenmeyer posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:31 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Has there been an explanation for the first down call? That was bizarre.

No kidding. I was watching with my wife and I said, "maybe I don't understand which part of the chain actually means it's a first down." She replied, "well I'm pretty sure the 50 football players standing there yelling at the official know the rule."

That play by Jadeveon Clowney was as good a defensive effort as I've ever seen. I particularly enjoyed this interpretation of events.

It reminded me a little bit of
this.

2566. Foghorn Leghorn posted on January 02, 2013 at 05:12 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

ASmitty,
LSU had two plays? Then how did they score four times?

Much ado is made of the fourth down pass made by Clemson, but really LSU was far more relient on big plays in the game than Clemson was. Take away either the fumble or the long TD run by Hill and LSU would have been sunk.

That makes no sense.

What "gifts" did Clemson get in the game? I can't think of many/any,

Did you see any of this: LSU gets the ball with 2 min, and surprises Clemson's stacked line with a pass for 8 yards. HAHA! So 2nd and two. Well, Jeremy Hill has been cruising this game, so get a first down, causing Clemson to burn a TO, right? Not even clock management, but "keep the clock running" management. Nope, Miles tries to surprise Clemson with ANOTHER PASS! Incomplete - clock stops. Well, okay, lets get the first down and start the clock again, right? Nope ! Surprise! Another pass! Incomplete, clock stops again, and then a punt.

If you don't think that was charitable, perhaps you are unfamiliar with football strategies. Oh, no, that was Clemson "forcing" a three and out.

unless you conclude that it was cheritable of LSU to repeatedly let Clemson drive the length of the field or to let Clemson force repeated three and outs.

Let Clemson repeatedly drive the length of the field and not score? Did you miss the fact that it took the last tick for Clemson to lead?

2567. Foghorn Leghorn posted on January 02, 2013 at 05:14 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I generally concede SEC supremecy, but I just don't see how someone could watch that game and think LSU was the better team. They emphatically were not.

Oh, emphatically? Well, that's different. LSU has a much better defense and a much worse offense. I think LSU, by changing *ONE* play call, wins that game.

2568. spike posted on January 02, 2013 at 05:52 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Besides, Clemson is an honorary SEC team.

2569. Foghorn Leghorn posted on January 02, 2013 at 05:53 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Besides, Clemson is an honorary SEC team.

HA!

2570. Foghorn Leghorn posted on January 02, 2013 at 05:54 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Clemson four lowest point totals: 17, 25, 26, 37

The three SEC teams and FSU.

2571. Eddo posted on January 02, 2013 at 06:00 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Let Clemson repeatedly drive the length of the field and not score?

I didn't watch the game, but I'm not sure I'd include that as a point in LSU's favor.

2572. Cowboy Popup posted on January 02, 2013 at 08:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

So, is tonight going to be better than last night? I hope so. At least tonight, I think we can count on the underdog's QB to not suck ass all game.

2573. CFBF Hates Hyphens posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:25 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Florida going with the blue shirts, orange pants combo for the first time in almost 14 years. It's an...interesting look.

2574. OCF posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:30 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Has Sam M. been around here much lately? This would seem to be his game to care about.

2575. Spivey posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:32 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

SEC! SEC! SEC!

2576. Cowboy Popup posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:32 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Well that's an amazing start for Louisville!

2577. Spivey posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:34 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

That was one of the shittiest kickoffs I've ever seen.

2578. Spivey posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:40 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

That was a bounty hit on Bridgewater right there.

2579. Cowboy Popup posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:42 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Whoa, big pass play against the UF secondary.

2580. Brian White posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:43 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

So, can you have possession of the football with your knees?

2581. Darkness and the howling fantods posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:44 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

How was that not a personal foul? His knee was down well before the hit and it was helmet to helmet.

2582. Spivey posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:45 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I remember from the FSU/Florida game how much Florida hits helmet to helmet. It's insane to the point where you assume it's almost being coached, but I guess you gotta keep your job eh Muschamp?

2583. Brian White posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:46 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

How was that not a personal foul? His knee was down well before the hit and it was helmet to helmet.

Refs should have whistled it dead, but they didn't. I can't comment on the helmet to helmet thing, I missed that one replay angle.

2584. Cowboy Popup posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:47 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Nice scramble there.

2585. Spivey posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:49 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It shouldn't have been whistled dead because even though he had his knee down he was juggling the ball.

2586. CFBF Hates Hyphens posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Man, Louisville is making third down look really damn easy. Soft SEC schedule clearly didn't prepare UF.

2587. Spivey posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Bulldozer!

2588. Brian White posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It shouldn't have been whistled dead because even though he had his knee down he was juggling the ball.

Well, the ball was on the ground, so at that point it's either incomplete or down. But whatever, it's moot.

Florida's defense is looking pretty good when it isn't third down.

2589. Darkness and the howling fantods posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It shouldn't have been whistled dead because even though he had his knee down he was juggling the ball.

Ah, good call.

2590. Cowboy Popup posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:52 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Look at Louisville. Getting smacked, refs not helping, and they put the ball on the half yard line on their first drive. This is exactly what I was hoping for.

2591. Spivey posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:52 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

His knee does not look down to me. I normally like Spielman but I don't understand why they're so adamant his knee was down.

2592. ASmitty posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:54 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

"Let Clemson repeatedly drive the length of the field and not score? Did you miss the fact that it took the last tick for Clemson to lead?"

Clemson allowed about one yard in the fourth quarter and scored twelve consecutive points. They're tempo utterly cooked LSU's defense. LSU essentially scored half of their points on two plays. Clemson repeatedly drove the field. LSU was the worse team and lost. They trailed in total yardage and score. WHAT MORE DO PEOPLE WANT.

I watched Clemson lose to South Carolina. Clemson was worse than Carolina. Clemson was better than LSU.

2593. Spivey posted on January 02, 2013 at 09:54 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Well, the ball was on the ground, so at that point it's either incomplete or down. But whatever, it's moot.

It wasn't clear it was on the ground though. I think it was appropriate to let the play go on.

2594. Spivey posted on January 02, 2013 at 10:02 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

That was a split second from a pick 6.

2595. Brian White posted on January 02, 2013 at 10:03 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Ah, a Jeff Driskel special. Stare at a guy for like three minutes and finally squeeze it in there.

2596. ASmitty posted on January 02, 2013 at 10:10 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Oh, and also:

Clemson four lowest point totals: 17, 25, 26, 37

The three SEC teams and FSU.

You do realize only one of those numbers is small?

2597. Cowboy Popup posted on January 02, 2013 at 10:11 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Florida just killed itself there. Now they need Driskel to make a play with his arm (probably) in the red zone.

2598. Brian White posted on January 02, 2013 at 10:13 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Now they need Driskel to make a play with his arm (probably) in the red zone.

Let's not hold our breath here.

At least UF's offense is moving. That's a pretty good sign, even if they're only getting three out of this.

2599. CFBF Hates Hyphens posted on January 02, 2013 at 10:17 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I struggle to evaluate Driskel. He really does have all the physical tools. As Spielman just mentioned (and will rant about for the rest of the game), he's not much of a defense reader. On the other hand, his completion percentage is solid. On the other other hand, they aren't asking him to make difficult throws. On the other other other hand, he doesn't throw many interceptions. On the other other other other hand, he's under explicit instructions to avoid turnovers, so he takes a lot of sacks. On the other other other other other hand, his offensive line is mediocre at best and his receivers blow.

So...yeah, I don't know.

2600. ASmitty posted on January 02, 2013 at 10:20 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

CFBF

So minus the O Line, recent vintage Alex Smith?

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