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‹ First < 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 > Last ›There's that, and the little detail about them being the only unbeaten non-probationary team, who also happened to play the toughest schedule among any of the contenders. On second thought, it's probably just the overrating that will get them there.
This would just be funny by itself. In light of the fact that the wholly unimpressive Georgia squad could meet them in the title game just makes your SEC provincialism sad.
Oh yes, those brutal games against Pitt and Wake Forest really stand out as tests of character and steel, man. And my god, they played Michigan! And those guys were totally relevant two decades ago!
How long has it been since the best team from another conference beat an SEC powerhouse when it mattered, again?
As opposed to Navy and Purdue. Notre Dame has exactly two quality wins: Stanford and Oklahoma.
Do you think Georgia has better wins than Stanford at home and @ Oklahoma? Georgia's second best win is...Vandy? Georgia has played Florida Atlantic, Buffalo, Georgia Southern, Kentucky, Auburn, Mizzou, and Tennessee. The only decent teams they played are an Ole Miss team that might not go bowling, South Carolina (who housed them) and Florida.
As opposed to Navy and Purdue. Notre Dame has exactly two quality wins: Stanford and Oklahoma.
Which is one more than Georgia has (Florida) or Alabama (LSU).
Today. After the SEC championship game one of those teams will have two.
Which will be roughly approximate to ND's two wins. I'm not seeing the imbalance here.
Beating Mizzou in Columbia is as impressive as beating Stanford in South Bend.
Beating Florida in Jacksonville is as impressive as beating Oklahoma in Norman.
Again, my position is that if they played 10, they'd split. ND is reasonably competitive in a (weak) SEC this year. They're not a great team by any stretch. The only reason they're undefeated is because they didn't have to run any sort of gauntlet of good teams, picking and choosing their weeks. (The idea that beating Purdue by 3 is more impressive than beating Buffalo by 20 is silly.
There is no imbalance. I'm just saying that Notre Dame won't have a superior resume. Don't get me wrong, I'm totally against an all SEC title game.
I may have vastly underrated Syracuse.
Vandy would have won the ACC or the Big East this year, I suspect. But it's a really good year for Vandy, and all they'd have to do would be beat out FSU or Louisville.
So you'd favor Mizzou over Oregon at home?
Well, to be clear, I simply asked if you went with OR or FL as the competition against AL or UGA, assuming ND lost to USC.
Seriously? 5-6 Mizzou? Who just lost at home to Syracuse? That's as good as beating Stanford who just beat Oregon at Oregon? Well, I guess I'm just glad you aren't the one making the decisions.
There is no imbalance. I'm just saying that Notre Dame won't have a superior resume. Don't get me wrong, I'm totally against an all SEC title game.
OK, then we are on the same page. I don't think ND's resume will be superior to the SEC champ. They sure as heck will deserving of their bid in the MNC game though.
Not exactly.
UGA flew to Columbia and beat Mizzou by 21.
ND hosted Stanford, who was flying east half a continent, and scraped out alive in OT.
Those are about equivalent wins, all told.
The problem with the computers' SOS ratings is they don't account for margin of victory.
That's a huge assumption. But Notre Dame did struggle against Pitt, BYU and Purdue, so anything's possible. Man, if only Pitt's kicker hadn't missed.
As a fan of schadenfreude I'm torn on the Notre Dame-USC game. Part of me wants to see Notre Dame lose to a red shirt freshman making his first start. But that would do wonders for Lane Kiffin's job security, and I don't want that. Although if he's back next season that's another year of laughing at Lane Kiffin, so it's a win win.
The problem with the computers' SOS ratings is they don't account for margin of victory.
Here is the full gamut of computer rankings. These are not hindered by the prohibition of MOV required by the BCS.
It's a hypothetical. It's not an odds based prediction.
Right, I'm sure the difference between 41-14 and 13-6 is just Michigan getting hyped to play ND or something.
Right, I'm sure the difference between 41-14 and 13-6 is just Michigan getting hyped to play ND or something.
So we can agree that Notre Dame was significantly better than Georgia last year on the basis of their common opponent: Michigan State.
UGA wasn't very good last year.
Based on this statement you're giving a significant home field advantage for both teams. Michigan losing at Notre Dame doesn't get any of the home field advantage? Alabama is probably a much better team then Notre Dame, but I don't know how you can say that about Florida or Georgia, plus the fact that Notre Dame still hasn't lost.
*Florida has had close calls with LA-Lafayette and Missouri. Georgia squeaked by Tennessee and Kentucky. Teams have bad games.
If you're going on a plane, is there really a big difference between going to places like South Bend, IN and Syracuse, NY, in contrast with Linocln and Iowa City?
Please, no one feels for these kids.
And for the third time on this page, my position is that ND is basically the equivalent of UGA or UF this year, a good but not great SEC team in a weak year for the SEC. The only stand-out programs this year are Bama and Oregon, both of which got sucker-punched late by good-but-not-great teams.
<Sandusky joke>
To clarify, beating Mizzou by 21, in Columbia, is as impressive as scraping by a eastward-travelling Stanford squad in OT, at home in South Bend.
Guffaw.
Oh. You're actually serious. Well, don't let a legitimate discussion affect your SEC-blinders.
And what exactly this year suggests they're any different? They ran the table against a bunch of patsies with one good win sprinkled in, and are generally uncompetitive in games against top 10 teams. The only difference is they were smart enough to not schedule a team that could beat them in the non-conference.
Tell me again how Ohio State is going to ground and pound Florida, man.
Tell me how a game six years ago, featuring zero Georgia teams, is relevant to the discussion that Georgia has no business playing for the national championship this year.
Now, if you want to argue that that Florida team was a deserving national champion, you're probably on the right path, though, considering what I've seen above, you'll probably end up talking about big their win at Vanderbilt was.
So the problem here is that you can't read for comprehension?
Non-responsive. You can talk all you want about past SEC champions. But that has no bearing on how good any of the SEC teams are now. And it sure as #### has nothing to do with a team that has looked pretty ugly in its only two games against teams worth a darn, which includes getting absolutely annihilated. So, I guess congrats on beating just one team, that also happens to be propped up due to an incredibly weak schedule.
Notre Dame is only favored by 5 and a half.
Only one conference champ will likely be lower ranked than the top 14 (Big East). Take out the 4 SEC teams that can't go, and that leaves 7 slots for 8 remaining eligible teams. Oklahoma or K-State could be out of the BCS bowls with one more loss. Oklahoma State could be in. The beauty of it is that the bowls themselves might have almost no flexibility to choose.
Every non-SEC team currently ranked 6 to 21 has their own "BCS fate" in their hands.
Of course. The winner of that game has an autobid to the BCS, regardless of rank. Winner will goes to the orange bowl probably vs. Acc champ.
I assume you are talking Rutgers/Louisville for the Big East title? I wasn't very clear. Yes, assuming they both win this weekend, the winner will get the big east title and go to the BCS. However, if the Big East winner ALSO ends up in the top 14, then potentially all the BCS team slots must be used on the top 14 teams, minus the 4 SEC teams that cannot go do to the max 2 from the same conference rule.
No bowl selection "snubs" would be possible.
Edit: except, of course, for the 4 SEC teams that will insist they should have been the second SEC team selected.
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