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The 2013 SABR Analytics Conference will be held Thursday, March 7 through Saturday, March 9, 2013, in downtown Phoenix, Arizona.

Thursday’s programming will be held at the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication at Arizona State University, 555 N. Central Ave., Phoenix, AZ 85004.

Friday and Saturday’s programming will be held at the Sheraton Phoenix Downtown, 340 North 3rd Street, Phoenix, AZ 85004.

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1. BDC

posted on July 28, 2009 at 12:32 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

From the Ichiro thread of a few days back, with amendments suggested by threaddwellers:

"Greatest Players Who Ever Played a Game For That Franchise"

Angels: Rickey Henderson
Astros: Joe Morgan
Athletics: Ty Cobb
Blue Jays: Roger Clemens
Braves: Babe Ruth
Brewers: Hank Aaron
Cardinals: Stan Musial
Cubs: Rogers Hornsby
Diamondbacks: Randy Johnson
Dodgers: Rickey Henderson
Giants: Willie Mays
Indians: Cy Young
Mariners: AROD
Marlins: Mike Piazza
Mets: Willie Mays
Nationals: Pete Rose
Orioles: Rogers Hornsby
Padres: Rickey Henderson
Phillies: Joe Morgan
Pirates: Honus Wagner
Rangers: AROD
Rays: Wade Boggs
Reds: Joe Morgan
Red Sox: Babe Ruth
Rockies: Dale Murphy
Royals: George Brett
Tigers: Ty Cobb
Twins: Walter Johnson
White Sox: Tom Seaver
Yankees: Babe Ruth

2. Mike Emeigh

posted on July 28, 2009 at 01:25 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Nationals: Pete Rose

Pedro has to be in the discussion, as do Raines and Randy Johnson.

-- MWE

3. JJ1986 posted on July 28, 2009 at 01:29 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'd take Larry Walker over Dale Murphy.

Maybe Eddie Collins over Seaver. Maybe Mike Schmidt for the Phillies.

4. Random Transaction Generator posted on July 28, 2009 at 01:35 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

AROD over Ken Griffey Jr. in Seattle?
I guess I'm underestimating AROD's impact.

Joe Morgan over Roger Clemens in Houston?
I'd go with Rickey Henderson over Roger Clemens in Toronto.

I'd also go with Walker over Murphy in Colorado.

5. Davo Mastroianni posted on July 28, 2009 at 02:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I just came across this boxscore from a May 17th game between the Rays and the Indians. This was the Rays starting lineup:

Upton CF
Crawford LF
Sonnanstine P
Pena 1B
Zobrist 3b
Bartlett Ss
Kapler RF
Iwamura 2B
Hernandez C
_________________

Can someone explain to me why the great Andy Sonnanstine was batting third that day? I mean, granted, he was 1 for 3 with an RBI double that day, but still.....

Also: I had no idea where to post this question.

6. Random Transaction Generator posted on July 28, 2009 at 02:28 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Wasn't that the game where they messed up the lineup and listed two 3B?
So they couldn't use Longoria, and lost the use of the DH as well.

7. Randy Jones

posted on July 28, 2009 at 02:29 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Wasn't that the game where they messed up the lineup and listed two 3B?
So they couldn't use Longoria, and lost the use of the DH as well.

Yep. Maddon just messed up the lineup card.

8. Dag Nabbit has the talking pillow posted on July 28, 2009 at 02:36 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Best teams to ever lose ten straight. Comment at the end includes some info that should've been in the article had I not hit submit too early.

9. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! posted on July 28, 2009 at 02:38 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Davoarid,

Maddon effed up the lineup card so the Rays lost the DH, who was supposed to be batting third.

10. Davo Mastroianni posted on July 28, 2009 at 02:48 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Pete Alexander for the Phillies and possibly the Cubs, I'd think.
Christy Mathewson for the Reds.

And is Greg Maddux ahead of Rickey for the Dodgers and Padres? It has to be close.

11. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 02:50 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

AROD over Ken Griffey Jr. in Seattle?
I guess I'm underestimating AROD's impact.

ARod's a better player than Griffey, therefore he's the best player to have ever played for the Mariners. Unless you disagree with the first part.

12. Davo Mastroianni posted on July 28, 2009 at 02:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

6, 7, and 9: Thanks very much. I saw Sonnanstine had a career 112 OPS+ (26 plate appearances!), and that he's pinch-hit twice thsi season... I was really hoping there was a better reason than that, heh.

13. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 02:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Pete Alexander for the Phillies and possibly the Cubs, I'd think.
Christy Mathewson for the Reds.

And is Greg Maddux ahead of Rickey for the Dodgers and Padres? It has to be close.

I'll take Maddux over Pete. And possibly over Hornsby as well.

14. Randy Jones

posted on July 28, 2009 at 02:55 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'd take Bonds over Mays for the Giants and probably over Wagner for the Pirates too.

15. esseff posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:02 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

btw, eighteen years after his perfecto, El Presidente is a pitching coach in A ball (Palm Beach Cardinals). Paying his dues, I suppose.

16. Dag Nabbit has the talking pillow posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:07 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

"Greatest Players Who Ever Played a Game For That Franchise"

How 'bout best players to play for a franchise, even though you don't associate them with that franchise?

Braves: Babe Ruth
Mets: Willie Mays
Nationals: Pete Rose
Marlins: Mike Piazza
Phillies: Nap Lajoie
Marlins: Tim Raines

Brewers: Hank Aaron
Reds: Christy Mathewson
Pirates: Rube Waddell
Cubs: Pete Alexander
Cards: Kid Nichols
Astros: Don Sutton

Giants: Warren Spahn
Rockies: Bret Saberhagen
Dodgers: Rickey Henderson
Padres: Rickey Henderson

Red Sox: Rickey Henderson
Blue Jays: Roger Clemens
Yankees: Paul Waner
Orioles: Eddie Plank
Rays: Wade Boggs

Indians: Cy Young
White Sox: Tom Seaver
Twins: Steve Carlton
Royals: Gaylord Perry
Tigers: Eddie Mathews

A's: Ty Cobb
Angels: Frank Robinson
Mariners: Gaylord Perry
Rangers: Goose Gossage

EDITED to add: Oh, I forgot the D-backs & included the Marlins twice. Ah well.

17. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:10 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Cubs: Pete Alexander

I'll take Foxx. He may or may not be better than Pete, but he's definitely more obscure.

18. RJ in TO posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:14 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Blue Jays: Roger Clemens

People do remember that Clemens played for the Jays (since he did win the pair of Cy Young awards in his brief time). Personally, I'd replace him with Phil Niekro, who gave the Jays three disastrous stats in 1987, before returning to Atlanta for his farewell game.

19. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:21 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I forgot the D-backs

Robbie Alomar.

20. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:25 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I don't remember Pete Rose playing for the Nationals. Vinny Castilla did, though!

21. Best Regards, L.M. posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:29 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Wasn't that the game where they messed up the lineup and listed two 3B?
So they couldn't use Longoria, and lost the use of the DH as well.

Yes, but the outstanding umpires let them use him anyway.

22. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:31 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Personally, I'd replace him with Phil Niekro

Or Rickey!, who should also be on the Mariners, but then it gets less interesting.

New rule, a player can be listed only once.

Take McCovey for the Padres, Seaver for the Red Sox, Rickey for the Mariners, Marichal for the Dodgers, Al Simmons for the White Sox.

edit: And the Orioles/Browns should have Hornsby. If you want to make it Orioles only, then maybe Schilling.

23. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:36 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Harmon Killebrew could replace Gaylord Perry for the Royals. Either is a good choice.

24. Tom Nawrocki posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:37 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Gaylord Perry won his 300th for the Mariners, so he's somewhat associated with that franchise.

25. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:41 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Wasn't that the game where they messed up the lineup and listed two 3B?
So they couldn't use Longoria, and lost the use of the DH as well.

Yes, but the outstanding umpires let them use him anyway.

I don't think you lose use of the player, just the position (DH). Wikipedia has some interesting DH trivia.

link.

On September 5, 1976, New York Yankees starting pitcher Catfish Hunter pinch-hit for second baseman Sandy Alomar in top of the 6th inning and stayed in the lineup as the pitcher for the Yankees in the bottom half of the inning. Cesar Tovar, the one-time designated hitter in the game, then took over at second base. [7] (Note: There is now a section of the rule that states that the game pitcher may only pinch-hit for the designated hitter; therefore, this move would have been allowed then, but now it would be prohibited.)

26. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:41 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Gaylord Perry won his 300th for the Mariners, so he's somewhat associated with that franchise.

AS did Seaver with the White Sox.

27. SoSH U at work posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:42 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Gaylord Perry won his 300th for the Mariners, so he's somewhat associated with that franchise.

Yup. I can picture him doffing his trident M'd cap to the Kingdome crowd after winning No. 300.

28. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:45 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

From the wiki link:

During the month of September, 1980, Baltimore Orioles manager Earl Weaver inserted a pitcher into the DH slot but would use a hitting specialist (such as Benny Ayala or Terry Crowley) to pinch-hit when the designated hitter's first turn came up. There was a game on September 17, 1980, during which the Orioles and the Detroit Tigers both used the short-lived strategy. [9] (Note: Due to the loophole taken advantage of by Earl Weaver, there was a rule change shortly thereafter that states the DH must come to bat at least once, unless the opposing team changes pitchers.)

I'm trying to figure out what the advantage was. Surely the PH couldn't come back into the game. Like Crowley batting in the first and 6th and Ayala in the 4th.

29. Best Regards, L.M. posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:46 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I don't think you lose use of the player, just the position (DH). Wikipedia has some interesting DH trivia.

MLB announced after the game that the umpires had made the wrong decision. So yes, you lose the use of the player.

30. SoSH U at work posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:48 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

[28]. They wouldn't be pinch-hitters, but they'd assume the DH spot for the rest of the game. The only advantage I can see is it would allow you to delay your choice of DH until his turn in the order came up.

31. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:50 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Note: Due to the loophole taken advantage of by Earl Weaver, there was a rule change shortly thereafter that states the DH must come to bat at least once, unless the opposing team changes pitchers

32. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:52 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The only advantage I can see is it would allow you to delay your choice of DH until his turn in the order came up.

That's exactly the advantage. It's not a big advantage, as you can see, but Weaver wasn't one to pass up any advantage, no matter how small.

33. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:53 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

There's always exceptions for injuries, like the rule that says a new pitcher has to face at least one batter.

34. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:56 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The only advantage I can see is it would allow you to delay your choice of DH until his turn in the order came up.

That's exactly the advantage. It's not a big advantage, as you can see, but Weaver wasn't one to pass up any advantage, no matter how small.

OK, but the rule that says that you forefit the DH if he takes the field means that you could only do it in road games and the DH had better be batting 1, 2, or 3. So does it really gain you anything to delay your DH choice for , at most, 2 batters?

edit. But how to reconcile this?

There was a game on September 17, 1980, during which the Orioles and the Detroit Tigers both used the short-lived strategy.

From Wiki:

The designated hitter could also become the pitcher, in which case the pitcher or a pinch hitter must hit when that spot in the batting order comes up again.

Milt Wilcox was the Tigers listed DH and starting pitcher. He pitched the bottom of the first, and was pinch hit for in the top of the second. The guy who hit for him batted twice in the game. That conflicts with the rule, so that must be another change since 1980.

35. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss posted on July 28, 2009 at 03:57 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

OK, but the rule that says that you forefit the DH if he takes the field means that you could only do it in road games and the DH had better be batting 1, 2, or 3. So does it really gain you anything to delay your DH choice for , at most, 2 batters?

No, Weaver would write in the name of a pitcher who wasn't pitching that night, so he wouldn't lose anyone.

36. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:03 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

No, Weaver would write in the name of a pitcher who wasn't pitching that night, so he wouldn't lose anyone.

You're right. In the example above, Wilcox was not the starting pitcher.

37. Dag Nabbit has the talking pillow posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:03 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

So I know is a hugely unlikely event, but what happens if Travis Hafner is on-deck for his first AB, taking a practice swing and his knee gives out? Is the rule that he just has to limp up and make the best he can of it?

I assume it's some sort of double-switch in which the pitcher ends up batting for himself.

A few years ago Minnesota had Mauer DHing and the backup catcher catching. The backup got injured early in the game, so Mauer had to go behind the plate - and the pitcher batted the rest of the game.

It's a bit backwards of your example, but I assume something similar would happen. I can't imagine they'd make an injured player ever bat.

38. Davo Mastroianni posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:06 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

16.

Marlins: Tim Raines/Mike Piazza

Trevor Hoffman's a good one here, too.

Also, I just learned from your list that Spahn played for the Giants. I was very close to 100% sure he had only played for the Braves, heh.

Steve Carlton played on 4 teams that he is never associated with (Giants, White Sox, Indians, and Twins).

39. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:08 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

There's always exceptions for injuries, like the rule that says a new pitcher has to face at least one batter.

Ah, naturally. That was a dumb quesiton.

40. SoSH U at work posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:09 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Also, I just learned from your list that Spahn played for the Giants. I was very close to 100% sure he had only played for the Braves, heh.

Rule of thumb: If you're wondering if a guy played his entire career with the Braves and he's retired and better than Bruce Benedict, then he didn't.

41. Atomizer posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:10 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

#16:

Cards: Kid Nichols

Cy Young could go here, too.

42. Dag Nabbit has the talking pillow posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:10 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Also, I just learned from your list that Spahn played for the Giants. I was very close to 100% sure he had only played for the Braves, heh.

While a Met, Spahn quipped that he was the only person to play for Casey Stengel before and after he was a genius.

43. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:11 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I was very close to 100% sure he had only played for the Braves, heh.

You must have missed all the times that it is brought up (mostly by me I suppose), that the Braves have never in their 130+ year existence, had anything close to a great player spend his entire career with them. The current best career (retired) Brave is either Rick Camp or Bruce Benedict.

44. Dag Nabbit has the talking pillow posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:17 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Random fact: last night was the 22nd time the Cubs and Astros have played a game that went 12 innings or longer. With their victory last night, the Cubs are now 5-17 in those affairs.

45. Mike Emeigh

posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:19 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Pirates: Rube Waddell

I'd put Hank Greenberg here.

-- MWE

46. Randy Jones

posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:20 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

You must have missed all the times that it is brought up (mostly by me I suppose), that the Braves have never in their 130+ year existence, had anything close to a great player spend his entire career with them. The current best career (retired) Brave is either Rick Camp or Bruce Benedict.

So what you are trying to tell us is that Chipper is going to end up retiring as a Met?

47. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Exactly. And Brian McCann will go to the Yankees as a free agent.

48. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:34 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

You must have missed all the times that it is brought up (mostly by me I suppose), that the Braves have never in their 130+ year existence, had anything close to a great player spend his entire career with them. The current best career (retired) Brave is either Rick Camp or Bruce Benedict.

Sibby Sisti.

49. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:42 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Sibby Sisti.

Hmmm. A catcher with a 71 OPS+ or a utility infielder with 79 OPS+. Career length almost exactly the same. BTW, Biff Pocoroba's actual name is Biff.

50. Dag Nabbit has the talking pillow posted on July 28, 2009 at 04:46 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

BTW, Biff Pocoroba's actual name is Biff.

His name was Biff Biff? No wonder he went by Pocoroba instead.

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