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That isn't silly, billy, it's preposterous. It's not even possible to tell what it is you're claiming. Are you arguing that GMs collectively or Alderson specifically thought that 4 months in 2012 represented a return to a level of skills Wright hadn't demonstrated since 2008, and that those four months surely represented the reclamation of a 'level or performance he had amply demonstrated? No one would think it resembled a guarantee, or at the least should admit thinking that.
As for Reyes, he had hamstring problems, then averaged 158 games a season for four years, then had more hamstring problems. Are you arguing anyone paying attention to his career was going to be sure his hamstring problems were beyond him because, one year in three, he was durable? That after demonstrating four years of durablity was no guarantee of continuing durability, one year of durablity magically did?
If a Dodger Clapper shows up and spends half his postings on whining on about how his team's owners are getting screwed out of money, then maybe I'll start hating the Dodgers as much as the Yankees.
I understand where you're coming from, but the only reason I'd still prefer Strasburg over them is because Kershaw has already demonstrated serious hip injury issues ... and because Verlander has been SUCH a workhorse for SO long ... Strasburg simply has less mileage.
Wow. To comment further, that's a big number for someone who doesn't quite seem elite.
This really does strike me as a major overpay. Greinke has not had consistently ace-level results.
Over the last three seasons Greinke's been a nice number 2 pitcher. Durable, but without a whiff of greatness. He's hugely odds on to never get near 2009 again, but he still racks up 25m per?
Erm...Stephen Strasburg? Weird that you'd omit him,
How many pitchers would you rather have over the next 6 years just based on performance alone? This is not some rhetorical or gotcha! question. Genuinely curious.
Sabathia (although he started showing some wear and tear this season)
Maybe Jared Weaver
Maybe David Price
Wouldn't that have to be Dodger Redneck?
Er, um, blush, yes. Apologies to the Clapper.
Wright's deal is in fact a huge bargain
@JimBowdenESPNxm: According to a Dodger source:Greinke has a full player opt out clause after 3 yrs & if traded during contract he can opt out at end of yr
And Strasburg is on the team you root for, right? It would be so easy to use the same data and come up with the opposite conclusion, that the guys who have demonstrated extreme endurance are more likely to, you know, have extreme endurance.
decline on the aging curve
Ryu has been signed.
Golly that's a lotta pitchers the Dodgers have.
I don't see much upside there (the Dodgers are going to regret this contract very quickly IMHO).
I wonder if Billingsley is seriously injured. Otherwise, they're spending a lot of money to upgrade the fifth spot in their rotation.
I think the amount of money is silly, because pitchers get hurt and any time you sign someone for 5+ years I feel you have to assume that they'll be hurt for roughly a years worth of time and include age related decline, but trying to argue that Greinke isn't a special pitcher (and ignoring that he's by a significant amount the best pitcher on a scarce market with several teams looking for high quality starting pitching) is just silly.
This Wright stuff is weird. Even if Wright repeated exactly his 2011 in 2012, if he repeated his worst season out of 7 in the league, there is no way in hell he would be willing to sign anything close to a 4/55 extension. If evaluations of Wright are too past-driven, it's not at all about 4 months in 2012, but the thousand games before that.
If Wright replicates his "down" years for the next 8 years he sails into the HOF.
The reason Reyes only got $100 million is because of the hamstring problems. If he had been healthy during his career he gets at least 50% more.
You're forgetting that there was some discussion after 2011 about whether the Mets should even renew Wright at 16m for 2012.
The idea that Wright didn't need a huge season to get close to the money he got is, well, weird. You're saying a player not getting to three wins in a dog's age should sneeze at a 4/55 deal? That player should be glad you're not his agent.
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