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What Kennedy did is for better or worse not that unusual in the scope of Major League Baseball. For MLB (or a District Attorney) to suddenly elevate it to a level of punishment greatly in excess of what has historcially been done would be grossly unfair.
Except what Kennedy did is extremely unusual in the scope of Major League Baseball. This wasn't the usual ###-for-tat brushback retaliation pitch you see all the time. This was a guy hitting two players in the head with fastballs, smirking as he did it, and freely admitting after the game that it was intentional. It's very, very unusual even in retaliation situations for a pitcher to aim for the head -- and I've never heard of a single instance in the history of baseball where a guy did it twice in one game.
Hitting a guy in the shoulder should be reason enough to get suspended, and Kennedy should be suspended for hitting Puig in the face whether he intended to or not. Going and throwing at Greinke's head after hitting Puig in the face--even supposing hitting Puig was unintentional--should get him suspended for a long time.
Is there a place in which throwing baseballs at people's faces out of spite should be tolerated?
Why should he be suspended for hitting Puig "whether intentional or not" ? that doesn't make any sense.
I don't believe there is any suspension for a first positive marijuana test.
He did not hit Puig on purpose. It was an 0-2 count, they had been pitching him up, that one got away. Of course Greinke was blatantly intentional. But keep the facts straight.
)...after all it shouldn't be too hard for a major league pitcher to not hit someone in the face.
Question: Should Greinke be suspended for throwing at Montero, CLEARLY intentionally ?
Tossing Greinke means that the party of the first part gets a free pass. Not saying it wouldn't have helped, or even been appropriate here, but that's why the umps are loath to do it.'
Cold-hearted roto-playing bastards like myself are concerned that the brawl will mean Kennedy will miss his start at home against the Marlins....
For MLB (or a District Attorney) to suddenly elevate it to a level of punishment greatly in excess of what has historcially been done would be grossly unfair.
the umpires really screwed the pooch by not tossing Greinke immediately and potentially containing the situation.
As Greinke was walking up to the plate, I called out to everyone in my house, "Come watch, there's about to be a big fight."
LF – Don Baylor
SS – Alan Trammell
RF – Don Mattingly
1B – Mark McGwire
3B – Matt Williams/Tim Wallach
CF – Kirk Gibson
DH – Tim Wallach/Matt Williams
2B – Davey Lopes
C – Steve Yeager (might be a stretch)/Glenn Sherlock
SP – Charles Nagy
RP – Rick Honeycutt
UT – Steve Sax
OF – Turner Ward]
You guys watch baseball? How many times do you see balls sail 4 feet over the plate? Bounce 8 feet in front of the plate? Sail three feet outside. Pitching is hard
So....is everyone a Dodger fan or are we all watching different video?
The issue isn't the first HBP. It's the second one.
It has been suggested several times in this thread. Not simply ejected, but suspended. It's a ridiculous position.
The first pitch of the AB was a foul that pretty clearly went off Puig's bat and kicked over toward a dugout. Not like it was a mere graze or anything. He apparently called the pitch a ball, which Montero only realized once the count got to 2-1.
In the end, not only should BOTH pitchers receive lengthy suspensions, the coaching staff of the Dodgers seemed to be the most out of control and truly need to be disciplined in some manner by MLB
Gibson is so feeble. It's almost sad. He moves like a 90-year-old. I think his stride is about eight inches.
Suggested by a single person.
This analogy is without merit, ignorant of context and intent, and doesn't bother engaging with the original point.
I'm just glad that since in the National League pitchers hit for themselves, the NL doesn't have beanball wars.
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