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Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 5-22-2013

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posted 12 hours ago by Neutral Milk Dotel (Dan Lee) to dugout, george suggs, history | 13 comment(s)

Pittsburgh Press, May 22, 1913:

George Suggs, the Red pitcher, who is badly in the dumps on account of his illness, which prevents him from taking his regular turn in the box, came to Manager Tinker today and made a sportsmanlike proposition. The Kinston citizen declared that he is sick with sore throat and stomach trouble, and asked of his own accord to be laid off without pay until he is in shape to work. He told Joe that he was ashamed to be drawing salary without delivering the goods…
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1. Neutral Milk Dotel (Dan Lee) posted on December 19, 2012 at 07:27 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

No superstars on the pitching staff of today's Birthday Team, but that's a pretty reasonable set of arms.

C: Tom Wilson
1B: Russell Branyan
2B: Tony Taylor
3B: Wally Gilbert
SS: Mickey Witek
LF: Tommy O'Brien
CF: Al Kaline
RF: Walt Williams

SP: Geoff Zahn
SP: Bill Wegman
SP: Ian Kennedy
SP: Rex Barney
SP: Jose Silva
RP: Rafael Soriano
RP: Mike Fetters

Commissioner: Ford Frick
Scout: Paul Krichell
MLB Twins: Stan Cliburn and Stew Cliburn
Six home runs in one college game: Marshall McDougall

2. What Zupcic? posted on December 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Not sure if you're tracking these as you do them but do you remember what day has the best team so far?

3. Dag Nabbit has the talking pillow posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:01 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

As noted at THT, today marks 30 years since the signing of a player on the HoF ballot. Can you figure out which one before clicking on the link?

By signing, I mean his initial pro contract, not a mid-career free agent signing.

4. Neutral Milk Dotel (Dan Lee) posted on December 19, 2012 at 02:25 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Not sure if you're tracking these as you do them but do you remember what day has the best team so far?

I don't off the top of my head. November 26 and April 2 are memorably good, though. February 6 has a guy (G.H. Ruth) who's both a good ace starter and a reasonably decent hitter.

Several Dugout regulars and I are compiling 25-man rosters for all 365 days, which will be used to play a Birthday League. There's no particular team I expect to win it all.

5. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on December 19, 2012 at 02:39 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

1982 ... my guess is Riger Cemens.

6. Brian

posted on December 19, 2012 at 03:17 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Edgar?

7. Random Transaction Generator posted on December 19, 2012 at 03:30 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'd guess Edgar or Sammy, simply because they wouldn't have been drafted.
Most drafted players back then would have signed before late December, so it would be someone signed as a teenager from one of the islands.

Sammy would have been pretty young (16?) and Edgar would have been about right (18?).

I'm going to guess Sammy Sosa.

8. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on December 19, 2012 at 03:41 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Clemens was a big college star with a gigantic ego, I would imagine he held out as long as possible before the signing deadline. Of course I don't know what the deadline was back then, or indeed what it is now.

9. JJ1986 posted on December 19, 2012 at 03:46 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I believe Clemens was drafted in 1983.

10. Walt Davis posted on December 19, 2012 at 04:47 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The signing deadline back then was the next draft and you just went back into the pool. See JD Drew and a handful of others. The signing deadline is a fairly recent invention (partly due to JD Drew). It got moved up quite aggressively in the last CBA I think.

It was pretty common for guys to not sign until 6 months or so later -- e.g. Prior. Sometimes this was due to contentious negotiations but it seemed to happen often with pitchers suggesting it was just a way to give their arm time to rest without starting the minor-league service clock. I suppose it also made sense if the player was going to get a major-league contract.

11. Dag Nabbit has the talking pillow posted on December 19, 2012 at 06:16 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Anyone know why Jim McGlothlin died so damn young?

EDITED: nevermind - found out. Leukemia.

12. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss posted on December 19, 2012 at 06:26 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Kendrys Morales to Seattle for Jason Vargas.

13. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on December 19, 2012 at 06:30 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I don't get the need to get a sixth starter in return for Morales, but overall it seems like a fair swap.

14. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on December 19, 2012 at 06:33 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Hey, Vargas may have been a sixth starter on the Angels, but now that he's on the Mariners ... oh wait.

Morales instantly becomes the Mariners' best hitter by a huge margin. Except of course John Jaso.

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