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    Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 5-17-2013

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    posted 2 days ago by Neutral Milk Dotel (Dan Lee) to dugout, history  |  20 comment(s)

    Toledo News-Bee, May 17, 1913:

    One of the weirdest triple plays ever seen in the American league was staged in the seventh inning of the Nap-Athletic contest Friday at Cleveland. Johnson [sic] opened with a single and took third on Chapman’s double. Olson then drew a single off Barry’s chest. Johnson was sent home by his coacher, Steen, who saw Chapman racing for third. Johnson was run down. Chappie started back to second and found Olson there. Barry tagged Olson and Chapman. Olson was retired, ...

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    1. Neutral Milk Dotel (Dan Lee) posted on December 03, 2012 at 07:09 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    In the history of Major League Baseball, there have been two players with the last name Dolan. Both were nicknamed "Cozy". This appears to have been a common practice back in the day; if there was a well-known player with a widely-used nickname and another player with the same (or a similar) surname made it to the big leagues, they'd give him the same nickname. The instance that immediately springs to mind is Topsy Hartsel and Topsy Hartzell, though I'm fairly sure it happened on other occasions too.

    C: Clay Dalrymple
    1B: Harry Simpson
    2B: Chico Salmon
    3B: Wayne Garrett
    SS: Steve Huntz
    LF: Darryl Hamilton
    CF/Manager: Joe Birmingham
    RF: Cozy Dolan

    SP: Paul Byrd
    SP: Gene Nelson
    SP: Walt Dickson
    SP: Charlie Wagner
    SP: Chad Durbin
    RP: Manuel Corpas

    Fun Names: Lafayette Currence, Hooks Iott
    Designated Australian: Chris Snelling
    Suffered Career-Ending Injury In Train Crash: Louis Drucke
    2. Sweatpants posted on December 03, 2012 at 07:15 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Socks Seybold and Socks Seibold are/is another example of the nicknaming practice.
    3. Dag Nabbit has the talking pillow posted on December 03, 2012 at 10:38 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Baseball-only TDiH at THT noting that today is 50,000 days since the birth of Elmer Flick.

    Also, I have an article up: ....If there had been no PED scandal which looks at how the upcoming HoF vote might've played out differently. It also gives me a chance to say various things about various players on the ballot.
    4. Der_K posted on December 03, 2012 at 10:50 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    g. soto staying in texas for a yr.
    loney to tb for 2m + 1m in incentives.
    5. GregD posted on December 03, 2012 at 11:10 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    6. Der_K posted on December 03, 2012 at 11:10 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    jason marquis to sd
    7. Chris Fluit posted on December 03, 2012 at 11:42 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The two Dutch Leonards are at the top of the list of carbon copy nicknames.
    8. Eric J can SABER all he wants to posted on December 03, 2012 at 11:45 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Does anyone here happen to have the keys to Primate Studies? I have something I'd like to post there if possible.
    9. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on December 03, 2012 at 12:18 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The instance that immediately springs to mind is Topsy Hartsel and Topsy Hartzell, though I'm fairly sure it happened on other occasions too.

    It happened with Kaiser Wilhelm though I'm not sure whether it was the ballplayer or the emperor who came first.
    10. AndrewJ posted on December 03, 2012 at 12:46 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Kaiser Wilhelm of WWI fame (and Queen Victoria's grandson): 1859-1941

    Kaiser Wilhelm, Pirates pitcher: 1877-1936
    11. esseff posted on December 03, 2012 at 01:10 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Dusty Rhodes, Dusty Rhodes, Dusty Rhodes and Dusty Rhoads
    12. SoSH U at work posted on December 03, 2012 at 01:20 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    A different version of this would be the Tito Franconas.

    I hope it doesn't happen with Sliding Billy, though a similar nickname would be a nice touch.

    13. The District Attorney posted on December 03, 2012 at 01:31 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I do this in my own private universe. For instance, I called obscure '90s Blue Jays utility player Felipe Crespo "Creepy", after obscure WWII-era Cardinals second baseman "Creepy" Crespi.

    I will say, though, that it does work a lot better with guys a half-century apart. Doing it with contemporaries is hella
    confusing.
    14. salvomania posted on December 03, 2012 at 01:42 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Were both Sam Jones known as "Sad Sam"?

    Bob Gibson was called "Hoot" after the cowboy actor and rodeo star.
    15. SoSH U at work posted on December 03, 2012 at 01:52 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I do this in my own private universe. For instance, I called obscure '90s Blue Jays utility player Felipe Crespo "Creepy", after obscure WWII-era Cardinals second baseman "Creepy" Crespi.


    I did this in college, when I referred to the genial Andy Roberts as Bip. Seeing as the original was mostly just a San Diego farmhand at the time, no one knew where the name came from.
    16. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on December 03, 2012 at 01:57 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I would like it if every player named Walker was nicknamed after Harry "The Hat" Walker.

    Todd "The Hat" Walker
    Greg "The Hat" Walker
    Larry "America's Hat" Walker
    17. Cris E posted on December 03, 2012 at 02:09 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So if you see one guy named Robert Miller that everyone calls Bob and then you see another guy named Robert Miller and you decide to call him Bob too that's just crazy am I doing this right?
    18. Cris E posted on December 03, 2012 at 02:10 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The next Al Hrabosky better be Hungarian...
    19. GregD posted on December 03, 2012 at 02:26 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I would like it if every player named Walker was nicknamed after Harry "The Hat" Walker.

    Todd "The Hat" Walker
    Greg "The Hat" Walker
    Larry "America's Hat" Walker
    Scott "Ass Hat" Walker
    20. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars posted on December 03, 2012 at 02:49 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    "Ken" Griffey and "Ken" Griffey Jr.
    21. JJ1986 posted on December 03, 2012 at 02:51 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    "Ken" Griffey Jr.


    Was it Ichiro who referred to him as "George"?
    22. Ned Garvin: Male Prostitute posted on December 03, 2012 at 03:48 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The 1st Sam Jones was Sad Sam. The 2nd one was Toothpick Sam. Toothpick Sam Jones also surprised me by being black - this was a surprise when I learned it AFTER seeing his picture numerous times.
    23. Mike Emeigh  posted on December 03, 2012 at 04:13 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Does anyone here happen to have the keys to Primate Studies?


    Email me through the site.

    -- MWE
    24. Der_K posted on December 03, 2012 at 04:24 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Creepy Crespo got some online traction - I know I picked it up from somewhere (Bpro? usenet?).
    25. SouthSideRyan posted on December 03, 2012 at 04:32 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    26. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama  posted on December 03, 2012 at 04:40 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Darn, I was sooooo rooting for Sarge Matthews to move.
    27. JJ1986 posted on December 03, 2012 at 04:41 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Now the Astros can hire Rick Sutcliffe.
    28. esseff posted on December 03, 2012 at 04:48 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The 1st Sam Jones was Sad Sam. The 2nd one was Toothpick Sam. Toothpick Sam Jones also surprised me by being black - this was a surprise when I learned it AFTER seeing his picture numerous times.


    All true, but in my yout', some people, including my dad, also called the second one Sad Sam Jones.

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