Pittsburgh Press, May 22, 1913:
Read More...George Suggs, the Red pitcher, who is badly in the dumps on account of his illness, which prevents him from taking his regular turn in the box, came to Manager Tinker today and made a sportsmanlike proposition. The Kinston citizen declared that he is sick with sore throat and stomach trouble, and asked of his own accord to be laid off without pay until he is in shape to work. He told Joe that he was ashamed to be drawing salary without delivering the goods…
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1. Neutral Milk Dotel (Dan Lee) posted on March 06, 2013 at 06:55 AM # hit 0 | hit 0That Grove fella can pitch a bit too.
C: Bob Swift
1B: Willie Stargell
2B/Manager: Cookie Rojas
3B: Bill Sweeney
SS: Clint Barmes
LF: Marcus Thames
CF: Pete Gray
RF/RP: John Coleman
SP: Lefty Grove
SP: Terry Adams
SP: Eduardo Rodriguez
SP: Bud Podbielan
SP: Bert Husting
RP: Ted Abernathy
Writer: Ring Lardner
Not that one: Roberto Duran, James Lofton
Sean's got a sense of humor:
"Peter J. Gray
born Peter Wyshner
Position: Outfielder
Bats: Left, Throws: Left , Fields Left as well"
edit: he has the same entry for Jim Abbott.
The Royals released him after '72 when he posted a 1.70 ERA, and no one ever picked him up, so he retired.
If you're listening, Sean Forman, that might be a nice feature to add to the "Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors" subsection of BB-Ref: Where players ranked in career categories at the time they retired.
I think the biggest surprise was that Ben McDonald started a few games as a Freshman for LSU in '86-'87. That's a really impressive accomplishment. LSU was coming off a Final Four run in '86, so they were the real deal...it's not like he was getting a handful of starts at Southeastern Ohio Mortuary School for the Blind or something.
I have an annual somewhere with mini bios on the top 100 or so players in college basketball that had an entry for Clark.
I remember watching McDonald. Though he looked a little stiff, but that's sooooo long ago, who knows? [EDIT: Here's his stats. Lyle Mouton played for them right afterward as well.]
Never heard of Tom Gastall before - captain of the basketball team, played in the N/S football game, and played for the Orioles - impressive.
Didn't know Hondo was that good of a hoopster. Or Don Kessinger.
Champ Summers played college basketball, served in the military, then more college hoops - then played pro baseball?
Crass question, but does he get to keep all of his $2 million bonus?
I don't see why he wouldn't. It's a signing bonus, isn't it?
The Mets dole out signing bonuses over 25 years with 8% interest.
Jackie's not close - I counted a double digit number of guys who were named All Americans at what are now D1 schools, second team All-PAC 10 ain't cutting it.
Um, might depend on timelining. Werber was Duke's 1st AA, but the level of competition wasn't that high then. Here's some candidates for a top 5:
Two recent guys who weren't A-A, but were legit NBA types (if you want to aggressively timeline to come up with your five) are Ryan Minor and Mark Hendrickson.
Ryan Minor was Big-10 POTY as a junior (23.6 ppg, 8.4 reb), and a high 2nd round pick. Absolutely would have had some sort of NBA career had he pursued it.
Mark Hendrickson probably wouldn't make our top 5 here, but he might have made it in the NBA as well, as an end of the bench hustle guy. IIRC, very accurate from the field (66% or so).
Terrell Lowery's stats were a product of system and weak competition, but he was a dominant player for LMU who averaged 28.5 ppg and 9.1 apg as a junior. He might have made it as a 3rd point.
Frank Howard was a first team A-A as a junior, averaging 20.1 ppg and 15.3 rpg, and a 3rd round pick in the NBA draft.
Cotton Nash was first or second team A-A three times for Kentucky. Fringy pro though, a year in the NBA, a year in the ABA.
Joe Gibbon was an A-A, and finished 2nd in the nation in scoring for Mississippi (30 ppg).
Frank Baumholtz earned A-A attention as well, and was a very good pro in pre-NBA leagues.
Bob Gibson wasn't an A-A, but quite good and, of course, a Globetrotter.
Both Eddie and Johnny O'Brien were named to A-A teams (and were drafted by the Hawks). Johnny was the better of the two, first team as a senior and the first player to score >=1000 points in a season.
Ron Reed earned A-A attention at Notre Dame his senior year, averaged 20 pts, 17.7 reb as a junior, and was a 3rd round pick of the Pistons.
Dick Ricketts was a first team A-A at Duquesne, a 1st round pick of the NBA, and played there for three seasons.
Garry Roggenburk was a 3rd team A-A at Dayton. Ernie Andres, Oral Hildebrand, Louis Berger, and Eddie Wineapple were also A-A.
Walt Dropo is still 2nd in career points per game at Providence (20.7)
Gene Conley played only one year (first team in what became the Pac-10) but was a pro basketball player for six.
Unrelated: I need to learn more about Bruce Bochte.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/173233/why-major-league-baseball-owners-will-cheer-death-hugo-chavez
Yeah, I'm a dummy - he was also a national POTY. Stats
i'd meant to look debusschere up and got distracted (and had blanked on ainge). only 3rd team a-a, but a high nba pick (4th overall) and an 8-time all-star.
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