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1. The District Attorney posted on March 21, 2012 at 09:56 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'd hold out for Axe Cop and the Gas House Gorillas.

2. Why Bloody Valdespin? posted on March 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

People seem to think the Jets are a real possibility for Tebow. That could be a lot of fun (I dislike the Jets).

3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on March 21, 2012 at 10:11 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'd love to see Tebow on the Patriots. If there is at team that could use him in interesting and probably the most valuable ways, its them.

4. JJ1986 posted on March 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'd love to see Tebow on the Patriots. If there is at team that could use him in interesting and probably the most valuable ways, its them.

I'm surprised they don't seem to have interest. McD was the one who drafted him in the first place.

5. Why Bloody Valdespin? posted on March 21, 2012 at 10:21 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Pats would make a ton of sense. Tebow could be useful as a backup/wildcat QB on a team with a creative coaching staff, preferably one with an elite quarterback, to best ensure that fans don't start demanding that Tebow become the starter the first time they lose a game. A team like the Jets, with a bad QB who everyone already hates and a thoroughly boring offensive game plan seems like they'd be begging for disaster if they traded for Tebow.

6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) posted on March 21, 2012 at 10:26 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I think there are only two ways to use Tebow: 1) fully commit to an option-style offense, and put the pieces in place around him, 2) use him as a stunt player; wildcat, half-back options, etc.

7. Charles S., annoyingly insightful posted on March 21, 2012 at 10:28 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

New England also has a fanbase that is one of the least likely to buy into the Tebow as holy-man mystique. That might actually give him the chance to settle into the business of becoming a solid NFL player.

8. villageidiom posted on March 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

A team like the Jets, with a bad QB who everyone already hates and a thoroughly boring offensive game plan seems like they'd be begging for disaster if they traded for Tebow.

That's an argument against any halfway decent backup QB for the Jets, not Tebow specifically.

9. JJ1986 posted on March 21, 2012 at 10:31 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

That's an argument against any halfway decent backup QB for the Jets, not Tebow specifically.

That must be why they signed Drew Stanton.

10. Tripon posted on March 21, 2012 at 11:17 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Pats would make a ton of sense. Tebow could be useful as a backup/wildcat QB on a team with a creative coaching staff, preferably one with an elite quarterback, to best ensure that fans don't start demanding that Tebow become the starter the first time they lose a game. A team like the Jets, with a bad QB who everyone already hates and a thoroughly boring offensive game plan seems like they'd be begging for disaster if they traded for Tebow.

Tebow's ego wouldn't accept a backup position like that.

11. DA Baracus is gritty and hits with RISP posted on March 21, 2012 at 11:28 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I think there are only two ways to use Tebow: 1) fully commit to an option-style offense, and put the pieces in place around him, 2) use him as a stunt player; wildcat, half-back options, etc.

Which is why I have a hard time seeing the Patriots taking him. They're certainly not going to do #1. And doing #2 doesn't fit what they do. Bill Belichick is not going to take the ball out of Tom Brady's hands to have Tim Tebow throw the ball.

12. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

posted on March 21, 2012 at 11:42 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Reese has an article up on ESPNBoston.com about Tebow to the Patriots. Belichick has praised Tebow in the past. Reese thinks that if Tebow goes to the Patriots he'll have to take a specialized role. Perhaps taking on some special teams/receiver/back role like Julian Edelman, with some infrequent snaps behind center to run option and/or wildcat plays. Reese also thinks that there's very little chance that the Pats would see Tebow as the quarterback of the future after Tom Brady.

Bill Belichick is not going to take the ball out of Tom Brady's hands to have Tim Tebow throw the ball.

I disagree with this. Tebow is unlikely to be very high on the QB depth chart in New England. Probably 3rd but maybe as low as 4th. That doesn't mean he doesn't see some snaps in games if he plays with the Pats. But we're talking a VERY low number of snaps. Say 4 to 8 over the course of the season.

13. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

posted on March 21, 2012 at 11:45 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I think his best bet is to convert to "H-Back", a la this article.

14. Cris E posted on March 21, 2012 at 11:52 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I cannot wait to see the Grounds Crew Gorilla interviewed by Terry Bradshaw. He's just the guy the NFL has been needing to reach the Big Time.

15. Russ posted on March 21, 2012 at 11:56 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Kordell Stewart was effective, at times, for the Steelers in a Slash type role. However, two things:

1) Eventually, the trickiness loses effectiveness over time as the league adjusts

2) Tebow probably makes better decisions than Stewart did, but he has a far worse arm

The NFL is so system oriented on offense and defense, I think it's really hard to be truly innovative because the personnel you have is so committed to the system that you're currently using. Basically requires a complete revamp of the team and who can afford to take that kind of a risk as a GM and head coach?

16. Don't want the truth; just wanna see some dingers posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It's probably not worth wasting a roster slot on, but I'd like to see a team have a guy like Tebow, and go for the two-point conversion after [nearly] every TD.

17. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:06 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I disagree with this. Tebow is unlikely to be very high on the QB depth chart in New England. Probably 3rd but maybe as low as 4th. That doesn't mean he doesn't see some snaps in games if he plays with the Pats. But we're talking a VERY low number of snaps. Say 4 to 8 over the course of the season.

Why would the Pats give up anything for a guy they are going to use 4 to 8 times during the course of a season? Theoretically Tebow has SOME trade value. If the Pats give the Broncos anything for him that signifies intent to use him a lot more than that.

18. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:13 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Kordell Stewart was effective, at times, for the Steelers in a Slash type role. However, two things:

1) Eventually, the trickiness loses effectiveness over time as the league adjusts

2) Tebow probably makes better decisions than Stewart did, but he has a far worse arm

Also, Kordell was in more of "Smashmouth" type era, whereas now passing is king in the NFL.

19. SoSH U at work posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:14 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I just don't get Jacksonville not jumping on him. Their team is terrible, and poorly supported (and, of course, Tebow is loved in that area like no other). Their QB is awful now and likely has limited upside anyway. They've got a running back even better than McGahee, a guy who appeared like a nonentity until Tebow became the starter.

I wonder if teams are fearful of bringing him in because of how popular he is with a segment of the fanbase, and how they feel it might tie their hands down the road if it's not working. That would be a shame - I'd like to see a team really commit to him and see how it works. It makes for a more interesting game.

20. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:25 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I just don't get Jacksonville not jumping on him. Their team is terrible, and poorly supported (and, of course, Tebow is loved in that area like no other). Their QB is awful now and likely has limited upside anyway. They've got a running back even better than McGahee, a guy who appeared like a nonentity until Tebow became the starter.

They just spend a top ten pick on their QB, who some considered a top five pick last year. I don't think their GM (who said he would pass on Tebow in the draft) thinks he is awful.

Miami makes a bit more sense. That organization is in disarray and the fans are about to revolt. They could use something exciting if they're not going to win. Tebow + Bush in an option offense is kinda intriguing.

21. JJ1986 posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:28 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

They just spend a top ten pick on their QB, who some considered a top five pick last year. I don't think their GM (who said he would pass on Tebow in the draft) thinks he is awful.

I know GMs don't matter as much in football, but how does a bad one like Smith survive an ownership and coaching change? I don't get it.

22. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:29 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Why would the Pats give up anything for a guy they are going to use 4 to 8 times during the course of a season? Theoretically Tebow has SOME trade value. If the Pats give the Broncos anything for him that signifies intent to use him a lot more than that.

I'm guessing they use him very infrequently as a QB. If he's on the Pats, he has to play a different position for the bulk of his plays. I'd guess if he was going to play H-Back, he'd play somewhere between as much as Edelman plays and Gronk/Hernandez.

All of this is to say that I don't think the Pats will sign him. IF THEY DID, he wouldn't be a QB except very infrequently, as I posted above. He'd have to play a different position.

23. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:30 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I just don't get Jacksonville not jumping on him.

They are in the hunt, at least according to ESPN.

24. SoSH U at work posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:33 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

They just spend a top ten pick on their QB, who some considered a top five pick last year. I don't think their GM (who said he would pass on Tebow in the draft) thinks he is awful.

I think they're merely doubling down on last year's mistake. It's not that Gabbert can't improve - I'm sure he will. I just doubt he's ever anything meaningful.

They are in the hunt, at least according to ESPN.

I know, I just think it's just such an obvious move for them that they should be the only ones in the hunt.

25. JJ1986 posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

traded to the Jets.

26. Tripon posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:54 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Not just that, Sean Payton suspended for year.

27. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Bwahahaha, Tebow with the Jets = disaster.

For a fourth round pick too, a not insignificant pick.

28. Shredder posted on March 21, 2012 at 12:57 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Not just that, Sean Payton suspended for year.

The lesson? Don't get caught.

29. SoSH U at work posted on March 21, 2012 at 01:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The lesson? Don't get caught.

Don't get caught twice.

30. phredbird

posted on March 21, 2012 at 01:10 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

i'm from new orleans, and used to work on the daily paper there. i can tell you that this payton suspension thing is going to be on the front page for a week, probably more. the city is completely nuts about the saints. i'm sure the comments over at nola.com (the paper's website) must be something else.

by the way, don't we have an NFL thread somewhere? not that i care, i hate football. one of the reasons i had no regrets about leaving new orleans.

31. Squash posted on March 21, 2012 at 01:14 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

That's a really strange move for the Jets. Are they trying to ignite controversy?

32. Matt Waters posted on March 21, 2012 at 01:18 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Jets make me sick. So many people care about this team, and they are run like a circus act. Going to get absolutely pasted by New England this season, an organization that makes sensible moves like adding Brandon Lloyd, who worked well with McDaniels in St. Louis. They have a method. The Jets have madness. Pitiful.

33. billyshears posted on March 21, 2012 at 01:25 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I actually have some faith in Mark Sanchez and I think at times he has been hindered by Brian Schottenheimer's inability to construct and run a coherent offense for any length of time. The Jets, however, seem to have indicated that they doesn't really have faith in Sanchez. For one, they want to go with a run heavy offense, which doesn't really work in the NFL today unless you're really good at it (and the Jets don't really have the personnel for it). For another, they hired Tony Sparano as offensive coordinator rather than somebody better known for developing QBs.

I think the Jets new offensive philosophy and the hiring of Sparano are misguided, but they are what they are. If the Jets want their offense to be heavily dependent on the running game, Tim Tebow can help them do that more effectively.

34. Eddo posted on March 21, 2012 at 01:41 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Jets, however, seem to have indicated that they doesn't really have faith in Sanchez.

Well, except for the pretty big extension they just gave him.

35. OPS+ posted on March 21, 2012 at 01:44 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

If used as a part time player Tebow can be useful. He is devastating in goal line situations. Better than every other RB and QB in the NFL.

36. Tripon posted on March 21, 2012 at 01:44 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The extension the Jets signed only included 4 million more in guaranteed money. That's basically the worth of a starting veteran player. They will cut Sanchez if they think he sucks.

37. DA Baracus is gritty and hits with RISP posted on March 21, 2012 at 02:19 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I disagree with this. Tebow is unlikely to be very high on the QB depth chart in New England. Probably 3rd but maybe as low as 4th. That doesn't mean he doesn't see some snaps in games if he plays with the Pats. But we're talking a VERY low number of snaps. Say 4 to 8 over the course of the season.

It's moot now, but 4-8 snaps goes without saying. I'm talking about an actual commitment to using Tebow.

The Jets. Ha.

38. KT's Pot Arb posted on March 21, 2012 at 02:33 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

That's a really strange move for the Jets. Are they trying to ignite controversy?

It's the classic marriage of a god-fearing quarterback and satan worshiping coach!

39. DA Baracus is gritty and hits with RISP posted on March 21, 2012 at 02:37 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Well, except for the pretty big extension they just gave him.

Not really. They increased his guaranteed money over the next two years by $2.5M total, the rest is non-guaranteed money that looks nice in a headline but will never been seen. And it lowered his cap hit.

40. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on March 21, 2012 at 02:44 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

So they had a QB who doesn't get along with his star wide receiver, who the fans have kinda turned on, and they bring in Tim Tebow. Yea, I'd be listing my condo on the market if I'm Mark Sanchez.

41. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

posted on March 21, 2012 at 02:49 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The extension the Jets signed only included 4 million more in guaranteed money. That's basically the worth of a starting veteran player. They will cut Sanchez if they think he sucks.

I think Sanchez doesn't get cut unless Ryan gets cut. For whatever reason, the ownership is keeping Ryan around. I'm glad he's not the coach of my team. I've got to think that for the reason DA Baracus points out (they're not into Sanchez for big money), if they don't win this year, Ryan is out and so is Sanchez.

42. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) posted on March 21, 2012 at 02:54 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

43. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

posted on March 21, 2012 at 03:03 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

If the Jets play so poorly that they get to the point that Ryan's playing Tebow at QB, he'll be gone. There's no point in even trying Tebow at QB.

44. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) posted on March 21, 2012 at 03:11 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

If the Jets play so poorly that they get to the point that Ryan's playing Tebow at QB, he'll be gone. There's no point in even trying Tebow at QB.

If they're 2-3 after five games, and Sanchez is playing poorly, he'll bench Sanchez, and they'll still be time to save the season.

45. gef the talking mongoose posted on March 21, 2012 at 03:18 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I know the NY fan-base isn't monolithic, but anyone have any guesses on how the Jesus Jr. act will play in that area?

46. Eddo posted on March 21, 2012 at 03:20 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

[Tebow] is devastating in goal line situations. Better than every other RB and QB in the NFL.

Cam Newton says hello.

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Fair point, all, about the extension. I think you're brushing it off a bit lightly, though; whether or not the actual dollar amounts show confidence, it does serve as a very public endorsement of Sanchez.

47. Squash posted on March 21, 2012 at 03:21 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I know the NY fan-base isn't monolithic, but anyone have any guesses on how the Jesus Jr. act will play in that area?

From afar, probably better for the Jets, whose fan base seems to trend much more Long Island and New Jersey, than for the Giants, who seem to be more NYC/Manhattan-centric.

48. Randy Jones

posted on March 21, 2012 at 03:25 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

From afar, probably better for the Jets, whose fan base seems to trend much more Long Island and New Jersey, than for the Giants, who seem to be more NYC/Manhattan-centric.

Northern NJ is all Giants. Southern NJ is all Eagles. There are almost no Jets fans in Jersey.

49. Shredder posted on March 21, 2012 at 03:27 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

If they're 2-3 after five games, and Sanchez is playing poorly, he'll bench Sanchez, and they'll still be time to save the season.

If they're 2-3 and Sanchez is playing poorly, and Tebow is your go to backup, the season is over. Unless you can convince crappy teams to throw ill-advised interceptions to your defense late in games, or play a lot of teams with running backs that forget they're supposed to fall down instead of running out of bounds. The end of that season was built on pure luck.

50. Tripon posted on March 21, 2012 at 03:28 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Cam Newton says hello.

I think this is the part of the NFL that people are missing. The evolution of QBs isn't Tim Tebow, its Cam Newton. At best, Tebow can be the homeless version of Cam Newton.

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