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I believe I've consistently been the low man on the Clippers on this board. I just don't think Jordan is very good and I think Blake is limited. You never know when CP3's knees are going to go, so I would go all in. I'm fairly certain I was on record as advocating for a potential KG to LAC trade this past trade deadline as well.
If the Clippers could find a team to take on Jordan with almost no salary coming back, would they be able to fit in both Paul and Howard while keeping Griffin?
What am I missing about the Vegas line moving towards San Antonio being even more of an underdog than they were when the series started?
What am I missing about the Vegas line moving towards San Antonio being even more of an underdog than they were when the series started? San Antonio opened at something like +150, but are now more than a 2-to-1 'dog. I understand the series line isn't a perfect approximation of each team's chances, but I would think it now being a three-game series would move the line closer to a coinflip (or, at the very least, stick right around the opening price).
Rivers + KG = 2 1sts + Jordan + maybe Bledsoe is the rumor du jour (woj)
@BillSimmons 2 things I'm hearing: Celts holding tight for Bledsoe in this Clips deal, and C's trying to dump 1 or 2 contracts in it (Terry and/or Lee).
@GwashNBAGlobe Hearing #celtics are asking for a lot, a whole lot for Doc and KG, feeling they are in the catbird seat with deal. #clippers are frustrated
No, but they essentially could fit both (at least to the point where CP3 and Dwight wouldn't be giving up all that much) if they could deal Jordan, Butler, and Crawford/Bledsoe with no salary coming back. Maybe something like the following:
(1) Trade DeAndre Jordan to Charlotte for a future 2nd rounder.
(2) Trade Bledsoe and Butler to Detroit for a couple 2nd round picks (seems like a weak return, but it gets the job done).
Then there's about $35 million to split between Howard and Paul, resulting in this probable lineup:
Barnes -- have to think he'll re-sign to stay at home in LA and start for a contender
The bench might be weak, with the 1st round pick and a few vet minimum guys, but that seems like an acceptable tradeoff. Probably wouldn't be any worse than Indiana's bench this year, and they made it pretty far.
The Clippers' lack of willingness to give up third-year point guard Eric Bledsoe could be a dealbreaker. They fear that they would be compromising their future by giving him up and are currently contemplating using him in a sign-and-trade that could involve forward Blake Griffin and land Lakers and free-agent-to-be Dwight Howard. Other players who are the Clippers' radar as possible upgrades by way of a trade involving Bledsoe include the Nuggets' Arron Afflalo and Indiana small forward Danny Granger.
but something about the team makes me not believe in them as much as others do/the numbers say I should.
Can't see the Pacers doing that because Bledsoe would start an extension the same time as George, and Stephenson's a free agent next summer too. No way to keep all those guys and West and avoid the luxury tax.
I don't know how anyone could think that this series is a foregone conclusion.
It's over. It's always been over.
•Starting in 2013-14, the team receiving the player cannot be above the "apron" ($4 million above the tax level) after the trade1, 2. A team above the apron can receive a player in a sign-and-trade if the trade reduces the team's payroll and the team finishes the trade below the apron.
•Starting in 2013-14, the team cannot receive a player in a sign-and-trade if they have used the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (see question number 25) that season.1
To anyone who understands the new CBA; how do sign and trades work now? Would the Jazz be able to do one for Millsap and Jefferson, or only one of them? Or are they S.O.L. on getting anything out of either since they're both unrestricted free agents?
@520: A healthy Granger who accepts his role is probably the biggest addition the Pacers could make.
Did not expect Ginobili to be starting.
Danny Green blocks a LeBron James layup shot from 3 feet out.
#### you Shane Battier, you ####### clown that pretends to play basketball.
I think the Heat may realistically be in trouble, if the Spurs can really match up with them head to head with the Heat's small lineup, and clearly owns their big one, then I don't see what the Heat has left other than hoping for epic Lebron and/or the Spur suddenly can't shoot... I guess those are possible, but twice in a roll the odds don't seem too good.
Popovich is the best coach that ever lived.
But Popovich is the best coach that ever lived.
This is pretty rich from someone who roots for Manu Ginobili.
Game 4 wasn't a blowout. It was a super close game that had a big run in the 4th quarter. I don't consider that a blowout.
He doesn't even try to make an honest effort first before giving up and resorting to the cheap tricks.
I actually agree with Spivey on this one. Not all flops are created equal. I mean, they're all annoying and Ginobili certainly does more than his fair share, but at least he's attempting to make basketball plays first. Flopping is a second option after his legitimate attempt to score fails. For Battier (and Derek Fisher is another), jumping in front of players and falling down is his #1 option on D. He doesn't even try to make an honest effort first before giving up and resorting to the cheap tricks.
It's over. It's always been over.
I'm legally obligated to hate Green since he's a Tar Heel, but I like his game. Also: does Kawhi Leonard ever show any emotion?
James/Wade/Battier/Bosh with either Allen, Miller or Andersen more
But you might be right about Battier, if he's just been in a shooting slump and nothing is really wrong with him. I assume Spoelstra sees something that makes him think there's more to it. It is a little weird.
Also: does Kawhi Leonard ever show any emotion?
I think Harden and Wade are clearly the top 2. Not sure what to do with Kobe. I feel like Jimmy Butler and Danny Green are the next group.
I had a post eaten earlier, but where does Danny Green rank for SGs in the NBA?
229. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance Posted: June 12, 2013 at 01:51 AM (#4467534)
Now every columnist is going to take the columns they wrote after Game 2, switch each reference for the Spurs to the Heat and vice-versa, and re-run it.
That's basically what they have been doing for the last 3 weeks or so:
After Eastern Finals, game 1: The Pacers are doomed!
After Eastern Finals, game 2: The Heat are doomed!
After Eastern Finals, game 3: The Pacers are doomed!
After Eastern Finals, game 4: The Heat are doomed!
After Eastern Finals, game 5: The Pacers are doomed!
After Eastern Finals, game 6: The Heat are doomed!
After Finals game 1: The Heat are doomed!
After Finals game 2: The Spurs are doomed!
After Finals game 3: The Heat are doomed!
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