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When asked if he thinks audience members from 42 will be offended by the when they hear the n-word in the film, Ford said, “No. I don’t think they will.”
I think they should go back to the original print of the film, remove all the references to the n-word, and replace them with flashlights.
Jay-Z and other "artists"
Also, Han shot first.
It's OK for Jay-Z and other "artists" to use these words in a derogatory, insulting fashion
See, nigga first was used back in the deep south
Fallin out between the dome of the white mans mouth
It means that we will never grow, you know the word dummy
Other niggas in the community think its crummy
But I dont, neither does the youth cause we
Em-brace adversity it goes right with the race
And being that we use it as a term of endearment
Niggas start to bug to the dome is where the fear went
Now the little shorties say it all of the time
And a whole bunch of niggas throw the word in they rhyme
Yo I start to flinch, as I try not to say it
But my lips is like the oowop as I start to spray it
My lips is like a oowop as I start to spray it
Nothing like scare quotes around the word artist to really make clear where you're coming from (i.e. 1952)
It says something about the force of an emotion, about fear, and about protecting oneself against that fear to an extreme degree.
It's not as simple as you're implying.
The nigga/###### discussion is one of my BBTF favorites.
I don't think that the non-Italian American players would have taken that as a cue that they could start addressing them in the same way. The distinction between Bad Words that people use among their own group and the same words used by outsiders against them is so obvious that it should hardly need to be explained, whether you approve of the former practice or not.
The Italian American players on the Yankees in Joe Dimaggio's era used to call each other "Dago" with a fair amount of regularity, but I don't think that the non-Italian American players would have taken that as a cue that they could start addressing them in the same way. The distinction between Bad Words that people use among their own group and the same words used by outsiders against them is so obvious that it should hardly need to be explained, whether you approve of the former practice or not.
I think it was in one of those “When the Grass Was Real” slew of books. I’ll simply tell it as best as I remember reading it. It concerned Joe DiMaggio, Phil Rizzuto, and Jackie Robinson in the World Series. Jackie had gone out of his way in a play at second to particularly lay into Rizzuto. Later in the game, DiMaggio hit an infield grounder and the throw to Jackie at first pulled him off the bag, leaving him vulnerable to DiMaggio doing to him something very similar to what he had done to Rizzuto. Observers could see or sense (and the situation called for it) that Joe had in mind to knock Robinson on his ass, but at the last split second Joe kind of just skipped around him and avoided any collision. After the game, when called on this, Joe admitted to some writers (in a this is off the records, boys, comment), that he had been sorely tempted, was set to let Jackie have it, but had a change of mind when suddenly the newspaper headlines, “Dagos and Niggers At It Again,” flashed before his eyes.
The only controversy here is in the fevered imagination of the people who want there to be a controversy because it confirms their views about the evils of political correctness
Well, you're free to describe people in any words you want, but you'll have to accept the disapprobation that may come with that.
Political correctness is mostly about tact and respect, so, no, it's not evil. Of course, some people abuse it, but that doesn't mean the general concept is wrong.
The funny thing about your description of me drinking team with my little finger up is that you're the one that sounds like a little princess throwing a fit because you can't use all your precious denominators in public anymore without people thinking you're a dick.
Tarantino movies use everything gratuitously.
I already have, and support free speech and free artistic expression. Accordingly, the concept of "authorized" and "unauthorized" speakers is anathema.
A month ago I was giving a talk at a college where someone asked my why it was wrong for white people to use the word \"######\" in a friendly way. I responded, as I always do, by pointing out that the names people use depend on their relations. That I should not expect to call another man's wife "honey" by pointing out that he calls her the same thing. That my wife and her friends use the word \"#####\" between them, but that is not a name I should expect (or want) to employ. That whatever they say, I have no desire to address my gay friends as queer. If you respect the humanity of black people, then you respect that they get to do what other humans do--ironically employ epithets in a communal way.
I doubt either of those scenarios will come to pass...
You don't want me to discuss certain things certain ways.
Elvis Costello used the term "white n##ger" (*) in Oliver's Army, 35 years ago.
I'm quite curious as to what the future of this word will be. I've heard suggestions that it will die away - others think that it would be completely recontextualized and become commonplace, race independent slang. I doubt either of those scenarios will come to pass...
One of the reasons you bring this repeatedly into these discussions is that you don't appear to get the differences between free speech rights and being called an asshat who is full of shitt, as Shooty more or less pointed out, and you also don't seem to be able to apply the ideas of context, time, audience, and place to various types of utterances, particularly if these utterances are tied to issues that are personal emotional hot buttons for you.
a word will be found,
One of the reasons you bring this repeatedly into these discussions is that you don't appear to get the differences between free speech rights and being called an asshat who is full of shitt
sleeve is that you don't want to discuss anything except within your parameters,
You definitely need to add that to your handle
Is that like Natitude?
Even if we rasta it up another 10%
Ha! I'm just being facetious, of course. I think there are a few white guys out there cool enough to get away with saying the word in mixed company.
I have to admit that overreactions like that just boggle my mind (as does the candyass nanny that won't countenance the use of the word). It goes a long way toward explaining how we revising history according to our precious sensibilities.
I think mostly only white people were upset when Gwyneth Paltrow made the Niggas in Paris comment last year.
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