Roger and Barry simultaneously: "Raffy, I beg you not to help me."

So Bonds supports Clemens, and Palmeiro supports Bonds and Clemens. Weird journalistic trend to solicit these reactions. Do we know how Dick Allen feels about whether Gil Hodges should be elected? Or how Deacon White feels about Bill Dahlen?

Was he pointing when he said this?

But man, juice or no juice Palmeiro could rake- 3000+ / 550+ / 1800+ 73rd all time in Offensive WAR? Good thing absolutely everyone who juiced was putting up those same numbers or someone might think there was some genuine talent involved with this guy - like the Rangers clearly do.

Do we know how Dick Allen feels about whether Gil Hodges should be elected? Or how Deacon White feels about Bill Dahlen?

Or, maybe more relevantly, how Pete Rose feels about Shoeless Joe Jackson?

I used to be proud of the fact that I was born in Cooperstown. Now it just doesn't have the same cache. (In the circles I run in anyway)

Weird journalistic trend to solicit these reactions.

Makes sense. It makes for a pretty easy story, get a few quotes from a retired player who doesn't have much else to do, and write a few sentences of commentary. And it does double or triple duty on subject matter, fans and haters with opinions on any of the names involved will click through and read it.

As for the subject matter, duh of course Raffy would support them, he ain't getting near a parsec of the place if they don't go in. Pretty much all the PED users and prime suspects have a vested interest in supporting each other to break down that barrier.

Pol Pot supports Hitler, Stalin.

I used to be proud of the fact that I was born in Cooperstown. Now it just doesn't have the same cache.

Damn that Barry Halper.

Sigh. My mom the English teacher won't shut up. The word you're looking for is "cachet", pronounced "cash - SAY." The word "cache" means a squirreled away collection of stuff, and is pronounced "cash." Sorry. Talk to mom.

Deacon White thinks that Bill Dahlen, Dick Allen, Gil Hodges, Pete Rose, Joe Jackson, Barry Bonds, Rafael Palmeiro and Roger Clemens should all go to church more often. - Brock Hanke

pronounced "cash - SAY

Maybe in Missouri.

Cooperstown doesn't have the same cache, either-- at least not since HoF personnel started stealing the merchandise and selling it.

Walt - You generally know what you're talking about. I looked up "cachet" in the OED, and it gives the pronunciation I cited. On the other hand, the OED is an old book and the language changes, and I've mostly run into the word in older plays, where imported French words are often spoken as if they were still in French. Has the pronunciation of "cachet" changed on me? I'd hate to lose any of my cachet because I can't even pronounce the word right. - Brock

I used to work with a guy who used "cache" when he meant "cachet" (in his online column) ALL THE TIME. I would correct it, I would gently explain to him the difference, and then two weeks later it would be back again. Then he started writing it as the non-word "caché," as if that made him more correct.

Brock, I think you're either reading the dictionary wrong, or you need to re-read what you wrote. The standard pronunciation of "cachet" is "cash-SHAY" (or more like "ca-SHAY") not "cash-SAY," which would be a heckuva tongue-twister.

Cooper Nielson is correct.

"Caché" is a real word in French, though. (meaning "hidden") That's where our word "cache" comes from. But I think the English word has always had a silent E.

Cooper and Crispix, thanks. I had the pronunciation right all the time (ca-SHAY), but wrote it down wrong. It's wroth mentioning that the OED has a weird way of listing the pronunciation of words. In the OED, "cachet" is listed as having only one syllable, although all the sounds are represented and cover the entire pronunciation. They just don't think that the difference in syllables, which is obvious to me, is completely correct. - Thanks again, Brock. You'd never guess how often that word comes up in my normal conversations.

Oh, good, a Wordsmith Corner. Anyone else have a co-worker who uses "supposably" all the time?