Friday, May 24, 2013
MLB: Don Sutton never shy about voicing his opinion
(mlb.mlb.com)
Sutton: Because that’s where the defaced money is.
Read More...The outspoken Sutton—who came up with the Dodgers in 1966 and pitched with them for 16 of his 23 seasons—has his own opinion about everything.
He said in an interview last week that he hates pitch counts.
“I say it with a laugh in my voice when I broadcast: ‘That’s 100 pitches. On the next one, he’s going to turn into a troll.’ At 101, you just disappear. Poof, you’re gone,” Sutton said.
...MLB.com: Did you cheat?
Sutton: No, I never got ...
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1 2 3 4 >Careful Carl, you're going to reinjure that elbow.
Sacrifice bunts for Jim Rice in his career: 5.
$14 million in salary over his career, per b-r.
Was he signing 1- and 2- year contracts?
Sounds like 5 too many for a middle of the order hitter.
I take it staying out of the double play is not considered fundamental.
It was a tie game, top of the 8th, Burleson singled to start the inning. Rice came up next and bunted him over. It sort of worked as planned, Yaz was up next and singled in Burleson. They played for 1 run and got it, took the lead 5-4. Then they gave up 2 in the 9th and lost 6-5.
So did you know that he signed a 7 year contract making him the highest paid player at the time?
I ask because I'm just curious if his contract was so legendary, I should have known about it.
In another article it cites "Contracts of 2 years, 10 years and 12 years were also discussed."
You know, you just can't make this #### up sometimes.
Sidenote, is there a job out there that pays a decent amount and involves digging through old newspapers and things and looking for stuff? Cause I love that ####.
Mine does! (sort of anyway...they didn't really have newspapers per se in the 1620s...and it also doesn't pay spectacularly well)
Though I did work as a research assistant for a historian writing a book about Saskatchewan in the 1920s that involved reading through a lot of local papers looking for stuff about provincial elections. There was one cartoon about a Flapper Girl in the Prince Albert paper that I had fun following.
EDIT: For the same book I also had the task of reading up on the founding of the Saskatchewan Rough Riders which involved reading a lot of 20s sports pages. Kind of fun to see the rural Saskatchewan take on John McGraw's Giants.
Is there a field out there where they'd pay a guy, say, 75000 to do that sort of thing? Just ballpark.
I just love digging though things and looking for stuff. doesn't even matter what stuff really. But it has to be like, a reasonable chance of finding what you're looking for too. I would go mad if I was looking for some rare thing that I had a .0001% chance of finding or whatever.
I sort of do this professionally at times but not nearly often enough.
You should think about being a financial analyst. Digging through a company's books and trying to find what's not there and then putting the pieces together using news sources, depositions, comparisons to competitors, etc. is kind of fascinating. I'm very serious about this. I watched Bill Ackman's 3 and a half hour presentation on Herbalife and I found it fascinating. And, if you're good at it, you'll make more than 75K. A lot more.
Rice talking about fundamentals is particularly amusing. I loved Jim Ed but he was far from a fundamental player. He overthrew the cutoff man regularly and watching him slide was a source of amusement. Still one of my favorite players to watch hit the ball though.
Grumpy old men were better in the old days when Bob Feller and the like were around.
This. I have no ####### idea.
Here's the first part:
And here's the paragraph on Rice:
This is insightful.
I was wondering why a can't find MLB on my TV this week. Now I know.
How many beers did the reporter slip to Jim before this interview was done?
EDIT: every time I forget that URL won't work. Fixed.
Yeah--remembering shooting model rocket engines at each other through glass bottles (and not at ten, but probably twelve or thirteen) can help keep me humble wrt that stuff.
The one thing that strikes me, though, is how utterly ####### dumb my nieces and nephews and cousins in their late teens and early twenties are. They know almost nothing, and think all the research you need to do is on wikipedia. I know I knew a lot more at that age, and wonder if it's because they grew up staring at video screens while I grew up with books.
Or maybe you just have dumb relatives? My nieces and nephews (and kids, and friends' kids) in their late teens and early twenties are incredibly freaking smart. And motivated to make themselves even smarter. That doesn't mean that they aren't still really young and naive and prone to say and/or do some incredibly goofy things due to lack of experience and the wisdom that (hopefully) comes with it.
Can I blame it on their parents? I've noticed a tendency for badly raised or abused kids to often distract themselves, if not in drugs and alcohol, through mindless entertainment. Which sort of makes close reading and thinking unlikely.
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Apropos of its being on, anyone else here enjoy the movie, For Love of the Game?
Then maybe you're just being too hard on them. Perhaps a little patience? Unless some of these nieces and nephews are pushing 30 or so. If that's the case, then you're probably being too easy on them.
As opposed to say, oh, the late 1700's where our leaders thought the common man was so stupid that they didn't let over half the population vote, didn't let us vote for our senators, set it up so that the common man didn't really vote for their leader, and kept an entire race in bondage and thought they were inferior, so you're saying we're worse than that?
To paraphrase another thread and poster, "people who pine for the good old days never had to live through that shvt."
I think there may be something here. I don't think it's a stupidity so much as immaturity. I think as a society each generation matures a bit later largely because of need. My parents generation had to start working at young ages, I started working later, kids now are able to be kids longer. I don't think it's necessarily good or bad but I think it is happening.
And that was the world leader in democracy and human rights at the time.
Oh, it's not something I bring up with them, or hold over them in any way. What's too bad is the complete lack of intellectual curiosity. My 24 year old niece is still a big Harry Potter fan. She never moved on to the more interesting works of fantasy literature, never mind a single great novel. She'd never watch a film with subtitles; after all, they're boring. When you get into your 20s and have no interest in film, art, or literature, except as pure entertainment; when politics is boring; when you create literally nothing, not even for the pleasure of beating a drum or sounding out a poem, or chiseling a piece of wood, or even just making a meal, something's wrong.
My parent's generation didn't have to, but their parents made them. I didn't have to, but my parents made me. The kids I mentioned didn't have to, and their parents didn't make them. Maybe there's something to that.***
More important than that, though, is the ability to read carefully and think in depth. They were never required to do that, at home, or in school.
***Of course, I'm a guy who posts on a baseball website, so there's that.
Well, to be fair, that attitude represented progressive change. It meant the white man had a responsibility. Imperialism, as a matter of record, was about more than simple exploitation for the exploiter's sole benefit. You can say, yes, but it was an attitude that justified imperialism. True, but before, there was no feeling it needed to be justified to that extent.
I suppose it all depends on the young person in question. My early 20s cousin (no nieces or nephews yet) was also a fan of the Harry Potter books and is probably the most intellectually curious person I've ever met. Pretty much everything she ever says is a question. She's a freakin' sponge.
I'm not sure if I have enough data points to generalize about young people, or perhaps I'm just too close to the action as I'm not yet 30 - the spectator sees more of the game, as it were - but if I were to take a blind stab at a characterization of the cadre of people in their early 20s at the moment it would be that they are very intellectually engaged with the world around them. To a frightening degree really, for a person like me who is a bit older and used to enjoy having younger people to condescend to.
But I guess it's all about the young people you are exposed to. Or, that doesn't sound quite right...the young people you expose yourself to? No, that's worse.
It's all about arranging your life so that lots of young people are exposing themselves to you?
Like everything else it really depends on which group you meet and how many of them in total you encounter.
just like he bytched about babe ruth striking out all those times and swinging for the fences instead of doing all the bunting/hitnrun/stretching single to double stuff like back in HIS day
although jose, i would guess you'd get to be an Old Person right quick if YOUR baseball team got took from you and replaced with a DH ball team that means to lose with el cheapo AAAA guys and shtty over the hill "major" leaguers
as for young people,
well, i don't think i'm old, and i know different people than youse do, but seems to me that most people over 2 and under 20 spend all of their waking time on the cell phone. unless their mean cruel parents turn it off sometimes for i don't know what reason
Well, sure, but you could do that then because you knew the players were playing for the love of the game, not the money, so they would stay dedicated. And if they started to slack off, they'd pop a few greenies. Kids these days, it's all about the Benjamins and the roids.
I have a mixed bag of 10 offspring of my siblings, but three of the offspring are siblings, each of whom are on track to graduate from major universities a year early. One of them just finished a semester abroad in Florence, Italy, where she got up at 6 am every morning to go to work at a bakery (she's an amazingly ambitious culinary arts/hospitality double major). She shakes her head at the other kids in the program who get in from partying while she's getting ready to work.
Maybe one of your relatives is in this program? I kid, I kid. But I can't believe how much more mature this trio was then my siblings were that age. So there's hope out there!
No, no, no. "Get off the ####### phone!" =/= "Get off my ####### lawn!"
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