you also apparently suck at math

Just because there are an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2 does not make 2 infinitely bigger than 1.

janitorial work, day labor, fast food

I think it's offensive to janitors, day laborers and food service employees that you think their job somehow makes them lesser than someone who plays baseball for a living.

Everyone seemed to love Bobby Cox for the last 10 years.

Bobby Cox isn't a normal, decent person. Bobby Cox is an #######.

It was May 7, 1995. [Cox] had been drinking, and he spilled a drink on the carpet. [Pam] made a comment he didn't appreciate. The police report said she told an officer that her husband grabbed her by the hair and hit her in the face.

"I asked Pamela Cox if this kind of incident had ever occurred before," officer Sonya Lee wrote. "Pamela Cox told me that this was the first time police had been called but that there had been 5--6 previous incidents involving physical abuse in their 18-year marriage. When asked, Pamela Cox stated that she has sustained blackened eyes and a broken hand, injuries inflicted by her husband." -Thomas Lake, Sports Illustrated

Bobby Cox isn't a normal, decent person. Bobby Cox is an #######.

But no one treated him that way for the last decade of his tenure.

Your logic is circular. By definition the one incident brands a person an a perpetual reporbate.

I, on the other hand, can see forgiving a person for an isolated incident of anger. I certain don't see one simple assault as any morally worse than serial adultery (which probably defines 50% of pro athletes).

I am against the Indians signing Tawny Kitaen FWIW.

Bobby Cox is an #######.

I agree with you there. I just think an ####### should take his punishment and then get back to life as usual. I also think banishment from society is an entirely unreasonable punishment for assault.

Just because there are an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2 does not make 2 infinitely bigger than 1.

Where did I say that drunk driving was 2 and wife-beating was 1?

I think it's offensive to janitors, day laborers and food service employees that you think their job somehow makes them lesser than someone who plays baseball for a living.

Where did I say that the people who do those jobs are "lesser"?

In my lifetime, I've done both janitorial and food service work. They're perfectly legitimate and honorable occupations, but they're also unpleasant tasks that don't pay very well. For those reasons, the people who fill those jobs tend to be people who (for whatever reason) don't have any better options at that time. If they could get a less unpleasant job or one that paid more money, such as playing major league baseball, they'd do that. And as time passes, most of the ones who can move on to better jobs, do.

Since most employers are understandably reluctant to hire ex-cons with a history of violence, they tend to fall down to unpleasant, low-paying jobs. Some of my former co-workers were ex-cons living in a halfway house. One got arrested in the middle of his shift, and dragged out of the kitchen in handcuffs. So it goes.

But no one treated him that way for the last decade of his tenure.

I can't control what other people do. If I could, I would've kept Myers and Cox from beating their wives in the first place.

If Cox wasn't treated that way, then he should have been, and it's a shame that he wasn't.

Where did I say that drunk driving was 2 and wife-beating was 1?

Again, it's not my fault that you suck at math.

...says the guy who says that any difference is infinite difference

...says the guy who says that any difference is infinite difference

Where did I say that?

I really wish people would stop putting words in my mouth.

Fine. Replace it with: ...says the guy who says a punch to the stomach is "infinitely better" than a kick to the groin.

Fine. Replace it with: ...says the guy who says a punch to the stomach is "infinitely better" than a kick to the groin.

Sure, OK. I said that, and I stand by it.

Sure, OK. I said that, and I stand by it.

What if old man Bobby Cox kicked Brett Myers in the groin in the backseat of an Infiniti?

I think they should be able to work - just not collect lucrative paychecks in prestigious, high-profile occupations. If someone wants to pay him to do the sort of jobs that violent ex-cons get (janitorial work, day labor, fast food, etc.) that'd be fine, I guess. But earning a living in MLB is a privilege, not a right.

You state in that paragraph that major league baseball is prestigious and being a janitor isn't. I'd say playing for the Indians doesn't really qualify as a high prestige job so I guess you're just mad about the paycheck.

But earning a living in MLB is a privilege, not a right.

It's really neither. It's up to team management to decide who earns a living playing ball. Someone signed Myers.

I don't like what he did to his wife, either.

I'd say playing for the Indians doesn't really qualify as a high prestige job...

Facepalm.

Back to the baseball side...
I question whether it's a good idea to convert Myers back to a starter. In 2011, Myers' velocity as a starter dropped to the 86-88 range, and his performance was considerably worse than 2010. After Myers was converted to closer by the Astros, his fastball velocity returned to the 90 - 94 range. Besides the trade value reason, I think that the velocity issue entered into Luhnow's decision to move Myers to the bullpen where he could throw harder. Myers has a very good curve ball---probably one of the best in the majors. He brings some pitching ability to the table.

What if old man Bobby Cox kicked Brett Myers in the groin in the backseat of an Infiniti?

Hmmm.... carry the one...

The answer I come up with is 'Tawny Kitaen'.

"Beat his wife" typically characterizes a pattern of abuse. What we seem to have here is a single incident (that we know of).

She was yelling, 'I'm not going to let you do this to me anymore.'

I'd say playing for the Indians doesn't really qualify as a high prestige job

Infinitely more prestigious than playing for the Astros.

66 - Agree. Even though Myers' 85 ERA+ from 2011 would have been good for 2nd best in the Indians' rotation last year, I'm not sure what they're hoping for other than lightning in a bottle. He seems like a fine pen option that you can swing into the rotation when necessary, but I'd much rather give a rotation spot to a young guy.

Wow... that part of this read like a textbook from a community college Communications course.......like some poor writer was forced to partake in the losing side of the argument and devolve into weird, off-base points about "high prestige" jobs....like a "How-Not-To" Lesson in Argumentation.....

As for the baseball side: I think it's too much for a swingman. I'd honestly rather Correia, IF (BIG IF) I were forced at gunpoint to choose.

He better not Sockalexis.

Man, Repoz himself never came up with anything better.

No, I think that's repulsive. Just less so than deliberately beating a defenseless woman.

For real? Driving drunk can actually kill people. Beating a woman can hurt her, but you'd have to be out of your ####### mind to beat someone to death in public. It sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder. Would you feel this way if were a similar mismatch man on man (say Aaron Harang vs. Daniel Ray Herrera)?

Edit: like everything else in life it's in gradations. If you're ripped out of your mind and driving at 12 at night that's insanely reckless. If you're driving home at 6 in the morning and you've stopped drinking 4 hours ago that's fine by me.