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If I recall they showed the replay of him banging his head and taking off his helmet all throughout the game and afterwards.
Nobody said anything about a possible concussion - either during the telecast or today. Shanahan just did a presser, and I don't think anything was mentioned about any perceived head injury. To say he was "clearly concussed" when there appears to be ZERO evidence of a concussion other than him hitting his head on the ground, I'm not buying it. Not every hit is a concussion.
Among those who don't know Cutler's body are Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew, Eagles cornerback Asante Samuel, future Hall of Famer and NFL Network analysts Deion Sanders and many others who absurdly rushed to judgment on Cutler's manhood during the game. All they knew was he was standing on the sidelines with a knee injury. They knew nothing else.
Their ignorance, though, didn't stop them from ripping Cutler in an embarrassing and ugly Twitter-fueled assault.
"If I'm on chicago team jay cutler has to wait till me and the team shower get dressed and leave before he comes in the locker room! #FACT," tweeted Cardinals defensive lineman Darnell Dockett.
"HEY," tweeted former Bucs linebacker Derrick Brooks, "there is no medicine for a guy with no guts and heart."
After this call I'll try to find a video. The fact that the head coach currently being pilloried for playing a hurt QB all game isn't mentioning another potential injury, this one a head injury that has been infamous in recent times, is hardly shocking.
From what I recall, Cutler wasn't obviously hobbling around like RG3 was, disregarding that people don't like Cutler but do like RG3.
I understand Shanahan wouldn't offer up that kind of information on his own, but you'd think someone would question him about it if there was any lingering concern out there that Griffin experienced a head injury yesterday.
To indicate that a simple fall to the ground could be concussive (which is the case) is to give away the game.
I clearly remember what's being referred to, but it never occurred to me - at the time of the play or at any point afterwards - that he had hit his head on that play.
Possibly baseball as well. How did Ryan Freel suffer all those concussions?
A simple fall to the ground can be concussive, but I have a problem with a diagnosis of concussion based on nothing more than seeing the player hit the ground.
"Alright, we are up two scores, all we need to put this game on ice is some Rex Grossman magic".
Ray Lewis (he of the confession of obstruction of justice charge regarding two murders
There weren't any murders. The two people in this case were acquitted.
Frasier: Van Cortland? I thought he lost his membership in the S&L scandal.
Spencer: Actually, he was acquitted of all charges and reinstated to the club.
Frasier: Oh, he was innocent?
Spencer: No... just acquitted.
Griffin looked pretty alert in the side line close-ups during the game, and didn't show any concussion symptoms in his post-game news conference or locker room interviews. Probably not a best medical practice to have untrained non-medical types attempt to diagnose concussions via television.
The MRI exam of Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III’s right knee suggested that Griffin has suffered partial tears of his anterior cruciate and lateral collateral ligaments, according to several people with knowledge of the test results.
Griffin looked pretty alert in the side line close-ups during the game
It was not immediately clear whether surgery would be required or how long Griffin would be sidelined if the partial ligament tears are determined to be fresh injuries. Griffin suffered a torn ACL in the same knee in 2009 while he was in college at Baylor, and has been playing in recent weeks with a mild sprain of the LCL.
One person with knowledge of the situation said Griffin might have to undergo exploratory surgery to determine the extent of the damage and whether the injuries are new. Another said Griffin hopes to avoid full-blown reconstructive surgery if the tears are partial, even if they are new injuries.
A third person familiar with the case, asked whether the ligament damage is new or a matter of previous injuries showing up on Griffin’s MRI, said: “That’s what we’re trying to find out.”
He "shook it off" the way players used to shake off concussive hits all the time.
Was Shanahan the last person to see the signs? Is there anyone who thought when RGIII came out that he should have stayed in? No? Then Mike Shanahan was literally the last person to see that RGIII shouldn't be on the field.
You have no idea whether or not he suffered a concussion on that play. Please stop pretending that you do.
We were talking about this commercial (the one with the little girl at the press conference) while watching the Ravens game, with the chatter along the lines that if I/we had free reign to ask Ray Lewis whatever question we wanted it would be more along the lines of "So, did you stab those two guys?" rather than what his favorite color was.
I've been brainwashed!
My television-based diagnosis is that his ####### knee hurt because his knee was hurt. On what do you base your competing diagnosis?
The rest of this "diagnosis" is no more accurate than its assessment of the Famous Non-Frozen Tundra of FedEx Field. Check Sunday's temperature.
That may or may not have been concussive, but it sure as #### looked the part
We were talking about this commercial (the one with the little girl at the press conference) while watching the Ravens game, with the chatter along the lines that if I/we had free reign to ask Ray Lewis whatever question we wanted it would be more along the lines of "So, did you stab those two guys?"
Thank you for finally admitting you don't know whether or not he got a concussion!
Griffin got a mild concussion in the Falcons game, so we know what a concussed RG3 looks like (hint – very disoriented). I did not see anything like that yesterday, although I suppose it’s possible it was a much milder concussion. There was a play where he fell backwards out of bounds awkwardly and I think that’s the play where he aggravated his knee injury. He got to his feet and stumbled a bit as he put weight on his bum knee, so maybe that looked like a concussion to some armchair MDs.
1) Griffin got a mild concussion in the Falcons game, so we know what a concussed RG3 looks like (hint – very disoriented). I did not see anything like that yesterday, although I suppose it’s possible it was a much milder concussion.
If I'm Andrews, and have made my fortune on my reputation, I can't have Shanahan using my name and reputation in this manner.
Hope RGIII recovers fully.
I've cracked as many Ray Lewis jokes as anyone over the years, but you know, he did 1) turn states evidence
and 2) lived what seems to have been a spotless life after his come-to-Jesus moment in Atlanta. So there's that.
I've seen this argument made a number of times over the past few days and it is truly bizarre. Oh, he stayed out of trouble with the law for 12 years? You don't say. Why, that's quite an accomplishment. Do most people have trouble with that? Answer: no.
I sometimes forget that BTF is populated by a bunch of ####### pendants and rules lawyers.
I really don't think this is possible. By the look of how his knee was contorted, his ACL came apart again. I think you can survive one ACL reconstruction but I can't think of an athlete who came back from a second one who wasn't a shadow of his former self.
That all said, you wonder what Russell Wilson is going to have to do to be the guy that people are talking about, and not be overshadowed by the other rookie quarterbacks. Maybe if he can be the last rookie starter whose team is alive in the playoffs....oh, wait.
Seriously? You're going to nitpick this?
Pete Carroll was bitterly complaining yesterday about the horrible quality of the FedEx field, and even though I tend to like Mud Bowls and unreadable jerseys, I find it hard to disagree with him. The "grass" between the hashmarks reminded me of Griffith Stadium, circa 1955. Apparently the home team gets to determine the acceptable level of playing conditions as long as they follow some sort of "procedure" in notifying the league about it.
Griffin has a torn ACL and MCL. So, there ya go.
Ray Lewis, by nearly every account, became a good man. Maybe a great man.
Ray Lewis, by nearly every account, became a good man. Maybe a great man. I don't know him, but I think that's what impresses people - not that he stayed out of trouble.
I'll bite. What accomplishments since then have made him a good/great man?
Personally, I'm inclined to believe he's a good guy. Your mileage may vary.
PPE: -Family man
By volume, certainly.
I think it couldn't be clearer that the college-style zone-read-option movement will die out in the NFL within the next 1-2 seasons as pro defenses catch up with their college counterparts in learning how to defend the scheme by forcing the ball inside.
PPE: -Family man
By volume, certainly.
Six children by four women. That qualifies him as a families man.
Virtually no QB has that kind of durability while still also being much of a threat to pass the ball.
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