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Tuesday, May 21, 2013

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posted on May 21, 2013 at 02:30 AM by The Yankee Clapper to aging, great baseball players, injuries, pennant race, veteran leadership, yankees | 15 comment(s)

Boz pays homage to the gritty, gutsy, scrappy, first place 2013 underdog Yankees:

Perhaps for the first time in their history, the Yankees now epitomize exactly the kind of team that always used to try to beat them: a group of inspired-by-adversity, too-old-or-too-young, one-last-chance players who band together to prove that baseball is a team game, not just an aggregation of talent and fat contracts.

Put a few all-star seasons, such as Cano’s 31 RBI, Kiroda’s 1.99 ERA and Rivera’s 16 ...

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1. Bitter Calculus Instructor posted on March 10, 2013 at 02:01 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

This guy sounds like one of them new fangled saber-nerds trying to make his point using statistics and such.

2. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) posted on March 10, 2013 at 06:46 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

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3. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The Ship

posted on March 10, 2013 at 08:31 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

It seems kind of cruel to post a Murray Chass blog that 99% of the snarkers on BTF won't be able to snark about. Doesn't this violate some sort of unwritten code of ethics?

4. RMc and His Roster of Rubbish posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:55 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

MY FAVOURITE PLAYER WAS HURT IN A MEANINGLESS GAME AGAINST CHINESE TAIPEI, MR PRESIDENT

5. The District Attorney posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Ichiro had a stomach ulcer, which presumably didn’t result from the WBC.

Of course it did... he was worrying about getting hurt!

I read the article to see what it had to do with tattoos. Chass mentions Elvis Andrus having to miss a day of spring training due to tattoo soreness. Don't really know what his point is.

6. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:28 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Hmm, some Murray Chass I agree with.

7. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:35 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Of the 73 major leaguers who opened the 2009 season on the disabled list, only two (Ichiro Suzuki and Rick VandenHurk) played in the World Baseball Classic.

Isn't this simply selection bias? Most of these guys were probably hurt or hurting before the WBC, so couldn't play in the WBC.

8. Matt Clement of Alexandria posted on March 10, 2013 at 11:41 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Isn't this simply selection bias?

Well, it definitely reflects selection bias. But surely some of the 71 non-WBC players in the sample were healthy to begin with and got hurt playing spring baseball. So the question is what these percentages are, relative to the population.

9. Petunia inquires about ponies posted on March 10, 2013 at 02:57 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Obviously the point isn't that WBC players are more likely to get hurt playing in the WBC (although that Canadian catcher is singlehandedly trying to change that), but that WBC players are liable to get hurt outside of the supervision of the training/medical staffs of the MLB organizations with which they are under contract (though at least for Red Sox and Mets players, this is actually a huge plus).

10. What did Billy Ripken have against Elroy Face? posted on March 10, 2013 at 07:09 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Well that's good. Because I was about to blame tattoos on the WBC, until Murray Chass told me not to.

11. Walt Davis posted on March 10, 2013 at 08:09 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Chass mentions Elvis Andrus having to miss a day of spring training due to tattoo soreness. Don't really know what his point is.

He's poking fun -- guys get hurt in regular spring training for all sorts of reasons, including tattoos. The WBC doesn't cause injury any more than it causes guys to get tattoos.

I've never really bought the injury threat complaint but it is based on the idea the players will try harder in the WBC than they do in spring training, and therefore get hurt. So would this be evidence that players should put in more effort early or is it evidence that WBC-MLB players are taking it easy in the WBC?

Also if MLB is that worried they can dip into MLB's slush fund to provide better-qualified trainers for the WBC.

12. RollingWave posted on March 10, 2013 at 09:42 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

the less injured part also has something to do with that really injury prone guys probably would be more inclined to not participate in the WBC, but it is true that the odds of WBC really hurting player is meh.

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