I guess they didn't think of putting the fish in another location, and projecting the tanks via TV since, you know, the fish are there to be on TV anyway? The tanks will make great terreria in two years.

if there are thousands of fans screaming and jumping during a sporting event it’s going to affect the fish in there,” Anthony said.

#### them, they've got season tickets with great seats.

Can't wait to see Carlos Zambrano have a melt down while holding a bat.

What DA said. It sure beats being stuck inside the MLB Fan Cave.

Petco thread all over again?

The Onion?

This will be the basis for a ####### awesome Finding Nemo sequel.

Can we solve this just by allowing people to select their meals from the fish tanks?

Didn't the Miami Dolphins used to have a dolphin mascot named Flipper who'd jump into a tank after every Miami score? I know it must have been a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure I'm not misremembering this.

The Marlins are going to have "a stadium full of rowdy fans"?

I think what he means is that Ozzie's yelling in the dugout is going to frighten the fish in center field, because they'll sure as hell be able to hear it.

Living Color Aquariums, which manufactured the tanks

WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE AQUARIUM, BABY???

Didn't the Miami Dolphins used to have a dolphin mascot named Flipper who'd jump into a tank after every Miami score? I know it must have been a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure I'm not misremembering this.

Ace Ventura: Pet Detective

There is something to this complaint. The lateral line on a fish is extremely sensitive to vibration and pressure changes, and is maybe their most important sensory organ. When I was into aquarium fish (25 years ago) it was a matter of faith that you didn't tap hard on the glass of the tank, because that was Bad For The Fish. For some reason.

The point is that it would seem very likely that the noise and vibration of a baseball game would be unpleasant for the fish, though I have no idea if "unpleasant" means "mildly disconcerting" or "deadly" or somewhere in between.

I also have no idea how this translates to practical responsibility. Fish deserve less protection than most all other vertebrates, but they deserve some. If the fish are going to die during every game then the tank is obviously not acceptable. If the fish are just going to get a little piqued during each game, the tank is obviously OK. There's a line somewhere in between there, and #### if I'm going to work out where it is. The Marlins should just run with the current plan, and put a little webcam on the fish tank to see what happens to the little guys during games and go from there.

Ace Ventura: Pet Detective

No they really did.

Kansas City used to have a horse do laps every time the Chiefs scored, after a blow out of the Raiders John Madden said he was concerned the horse was going to die of exhaustion.

I also have no idea how this translates to practical responsibility. Fish deserve less protection than most all other vertebrates, but they deserve some. If the fish are going to die during every game then the tank is obviously not acceptable.

Oh that would be great, 7th inning stretch, camera pans over and zooms in on the tank, and you see scores of dead fish floating upside down...

Marlins first baseman Gaby Sanchez helped test their extra-sturdy front panels by hurling baseballs at them.

What kind of arm does this guy have, and was he in mid-season form? Seem like a fastball fouled straight back might have more force than this test, especially if the same spot(s) are hit regularly. I suppose this makes me a bad person, but it'd be pretty funny to see the glass break and water gush onto the field.

Kansas City used to have a horse do laps every time the Chiefs scored, after a blow out of the Raiders John Madden said he was concerned the horse was going to die of exhaustion.

That is a damn good quote from John Madden.

We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse.

I would have no problem with these aquariums even if the fish died after every game. At least we'd know the post game spread was fresh.*

*Unless of course the game was played on a Sunday.

I have a friend who works as an estate agent. He found a fish in the toilet of a vacated house he was tidying up for a new tenant. Apparently they previous renters had just flushed it down the toilet before they left, but it didn't take. He still has it too, it's fairly big as far as domesticated fish go. Probably just under a foot long. Now that is fish abuse.

I suppose this makes me a bad person, but it'd be pretty funny to see the glass break and water gush onto the field.

You aren't alone. Frankly, I'll be shocked if this DOESN'T happen. Hearing the play by play man describe it has especially high chances of hilarity for either lack of compassion "well this is going to cause a delay" or too much compassion "oh this is awful! Defenseless fish are dying and no one is able to save them!" as bat boys sprint around in a futile attempt to do something.

Kansas City used to have a horse do laps every time the Chiefs scored,

So did the Baltimore Colts, although Irsay may have poisoned it when he acquired the team.

I suppose this makes me a bad person, but it'd be pretty funny to see the glass break and water gush onto the field.

polycarbonate resin thermoplastic; not gonna happen.

more importantly, isn't this taxpayer-funded? like, millions of dollars in installation and ongoing maintenance taxpayer-funded? shouldn't they have bought miami residents some tickets to games instead?

I suppose this makes me a bad person, but it'd be pretty funny to see the glass break and water gush onto the field.

It'd be pretty cool if they play Faith No More after it happens.

Apparently they previous renters had just flushed it down the toilet before they left, but it didn't take. He still has it too, it's fairly big as far as domesticated fish go. Probably just under a foot long. Now that is fish abuse.

Are you positive we're still talking about the fish?

'Cause they don't have any feelings'

it's fairly big as far as domesticated fish go

I don't describe my feces often, but the next time I do, this will be the phrase that I use.

I would have no problem with these aquariums even if the fish died after every game. At least we'd know the post game spread was fresh.*

Can't make money off it that way. It's gotta be a sushi bar.

*Unless of course the game was played on a Sunday.

I laughed. Well played.

All the marlins need is a Sicilian GM and released players would be handled within the stadium.

Looking at the linked site, I liked this one better:
Sex-deprived fruit flies take refuge in booze

Hearing the play by play man describe it has especially high chances of hilarity for either lack of compassion "well this is going to cause a delay" or too much compassion "oh this is awful!

Les Nessman's call of the WKRP Turkey Drop should be the standard for this sort of event.

Loria: "as god is my witness, I thought fish could swim."

Sounds fishy.

I have a friend who works as an estate agent. He found a fish in the toilet of a vacated house he was tidying up for a new tenant. Apparently they previous renters had just flushed it down the toilet before they left, but it didn't take. He still has it too, it's fairly big as far as domesticated fish go. Probably just under a foot long. Now that is fish abuse.

When I joined the military I had a small aquarium with a couple of Irridescent *sharks(really catfish more or less from what I understand)My sister took over the aquarium and after about half a year one got real sick and she thought it died and goes to flush it down the toilet, being dumped in the toilet "brought it back to life" and she retrieved it. 7 years later both of the sharks were still alive and kicking(moved into a 200 gallon aquarium as my brother in law got into fish for a while, it got bigger than the same species of fish that the St Louis Zoo has.)

This will be the basis for a ####### awesome Finding Nemo sequel.

I think Nemo was the best of the animated movies to come out from either Pixar or Disney in the past 15+ years. I loved Robin Williams Genie, but Dorie was possibly the best comic relief/sidekick in animated history.

I think Nemo was the best of the animated movies to come out from either Pixar or Disney in the past 15+ years.

Heeeeeellllll no. I mean I liked Finding Nemo but heeeeellll no.

The first 45 minutes of Wall-E...Toy Story 2...probably The Incredibles...those are great. Especially Toy Story 2. That movie was perfect.

I think my favorite animated movie of the last 15+ years was probably The Iron Giant, though, really. That movie is amazing. Also Kung Fu Panda is seriously underrated. I love the #### out of Kung Fu Panda. I think the only thing that held its reputation back was that it was done by Dreamworks. (Which ruined whatever good karma it gained from that movie by promptly shitting out a panderingly mediocre sequel, purely for financial reasons, and without any of the original creative staff.)

#2 was the weakest of the Toy Story movies IMO.

Cripes, virtually any movie made by Studio Ghibli blows away any movie made by Pixar or Disney. And really, it's not close...

The aquarium is one of the most ####### awesome things at any ballpark ever. Quite frankly, that's all you need.

like, millions of dollars in installation and ongoing maintenance taxpayer-funded?

They didn't pay millions of dollars for the aquarium, I seem to remember a figure of $40K.

The first 45 minutes of Wall-E...Toy Story 2...probably The Incredibles...those are great. Especially Toy Story 2. That movie was perfect.

45 minutes of Wall-E felt like it took 2 hours and it's closer to art than entertainment. I love the Incredibles, just not nearly as fun. Haven't seen Toy Story 2. The first one was ok, but nothing great, middle of the pack type of movie. (when that pack is Pixar and Disney animation of course. Still a very good movie, just nothing special)

I think my favorite animated movie of the last 15+ years was probably The Iron Giant, though, really. That movie is amazing. Also Kung Fu Panda is seriously underrated. I love the #### out of Kung Fu Panda. I think the only thing that held its reputation back was that it was done by Dreamworks. (Which ruined whatever good karma it gained from that movie by promptly shitting out a panderingly mediocre sequel, purely for financial reasons, and without any of the original creative staff.)

I think Iron Giant is like a reverse Derek Jeter type of movie, underrated by the masses, overrated by the people the "geek" segment. Kung Fu Panda was fun but again nothing special. To be honest the movie probably would have been better if it was longer. It had plenty of sub plots that felt a bit rushed.

Cripes, virtually any movie made by Studio Ghibli blows away any movie made by Pixar or Disney. And really, it's not close...

I'm guessing that is the hipster equivalent to movies. The two movies by them I've seen is massively overrated filler(Spirited away and Castle in the Sky)

The aquarium is one of the most ####### awesome things at any ballpark ever. Quite frankly, that's all you need.

As long as it's not damaging to the fish, I have to agree, but I'm far from a traditionalist in that I think the mallparks are awesome.

Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke are stunners, and highly recommended, despite their Earth-worship subtexts.

The aquarium is one of the most ####### awesome things at any ballpark ever. Quite frankly, that's all you need.

I don't get the appeal. You're not going to see the fish unless you're in one of the first few rows.

EDIT: You'll see the tank, but not the fish from other seats. Big deal.

I suppose it is relevant to mention "The Cove" since we've broken the glass on film. That movie made me very uncomfortable about how we treat aquatic life in parks and such. It seems like a ####### terrible idea to have all these fish trapped in a tank that will probably make them miserable.

In any case, its not ALL Ghibli films that are fantastic; Ponyo was merely very good, and some of the non-Miyazaki films are only goodish. I actually think Pixar has been on fire lately, with the exception of Cars 2 which I avoided. TS3, Wall-E, and Up were all emotionally affecting in ways that challenge both adults and children. I practically wept at the end of TS3, and Up made me tear up a bit on at least two occasions. I do find it interesting that some of the most politically astute films of the past decade have been animated films (Incredibles-war on terror, Wall-E/TS3/Spirited Away-environment,

So where can I find an official scale about how much I'm supposed to care about various animals and their feelings? I mean, domestic mammals like dogs or cats are obviously pretty high. Horses, too. Cows, sort of, in that I'm supposed to care about their feelings but I eat them anyway.

I would say mammals are pretty high, but I can kill a mouse in my house without too much consternation. Clearly insects are near the bottom since I can put out poison that an ant will carry back to the nest to destroy an entire population. And when I spray for wasps, they seem to die a pretty bad death, falling to the ground and writhing around.

Fish are kind of low, based on watching Madagascar, where they make a big deal about the lion not eating a zebra or a lemur, but at the end the penguins chop up a couple dozen fish for the guy to eat.

Eh, I don't have the energy to argue right now. I will say this, though: I am correct, and everyone else is incorrect. Thread won!

I saw Howl's Moving Castle the other day. It was interesting. I guess I just have to admit that coming from an American standpoint it's difficult to get absorbed in a story like that...I've never really watched Japanese animation, and there are certain idiosyncrasies of the form that make it difficult to get involved in if you're not used to them. It was still well-done though. Looked pretty.

Stupid phone. I was going to also mention Waltz with Bashir. And finish by saying that I thought "How to Train Your Dragon" was really fun if not as interesting as a Pixar film. Hopefully the new Pixar film does a good job making little girls think they are awesome so that we don't have Rick Santorum 2020.

The two movies by them I've seen is massively overrated filler(Spirited away

All I can say is there is IMO something wrong with your brain if you call Spirited Away massively overrated filler.

My favorite animated film of the last whatever years is Mind Game.

Does Avatar count as an animated film?

So where can I find an official scale about how much I'm supposed to care about various animals and their feelings? I mean, domestic mammals like dogs or cats are obviously pretty high. Horses, too. Cows, sort of, in that I'm supposed to care about their feelings but I eat them anyway.

I would say mammals are pretty high, but I can kill a mouse in my house without too much consternation.

The irony here is that rodents are more closely related to humans than dogs and cats are.

I think the only thing that held [Kung Fu Panda's] reputation back was that it was done by Dreamworks.

I tried watching it and just couldn't. Too focused on Jack Black's annoying persona, and like most Dreamworks stuff, it seems too pitched to 12-year-olds.

True story - when I was working as a manager for a movie theater back in the late 1990s, I got to attend a studio marketing seminar, where reps from all the major studios were there to talk up their upcoming movies. My boss asked the Dreamworks rep why their movies (this was the summer before Shrek, so we're talking traditional animation still) were always PG instead of G, since he had a small child at the time and was annoyed by the casual "hell" and "damn" type talk in the DW movies. Anyway, the DW rep said that was actually a conscious choice on the part of the studio, to appeal more to the kids who had grown up a little and were looking for entertainment that was a little more edgy.

Now, I've never had a problem with casual "damns", but that sounded like the stupidest thing I'd ever heard in my life. And fairly or not, I've always seen DW movies like that since; I can't help but seeing the self-conscious, cynical attempts to seem edgy to the big kids who don't want to be treated like babies.

Hopefully the new Pixar film does a good job making little girls think they are awesome so that we don't have Rick Santorum 2020.

At the very least, we'll get to hear Kelly Macdonald's delightful Scottish voice for something close to two hours. That will be worth it even if the rest of the movie is terrible.