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The tournament drew a record 781,429 fans since it began in Asia on March 2, played to huge international television audiences, and Brosnan said it will certainly be back for its fourth running in 2017.

“The Commissioner is 1,000-percent committed,” Brosnan said.

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Mainstream baseball countries Mexico, Canada, Venezuela and Korea were all knocked out in the first round, but only Mexico will have to qualify for the tournament in 2017.

In that matter, Brosnan promised more teams and more ...

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1. Why Bloody Valdespin? posted on March 07, 2012 at 10:49 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It's always the ones you least suspect.

2. Juan V posted on March 07, 2012 at 11:07 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Oh, Jose...

3. Gonfalon Bubble posted on March 07, 2012 at 11:12 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Say it ain't so what.

4. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The Ship

posted on March 07, 2012 at 11:36 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It's always the ones you least suspect.

Man, is that ever the truth. Madonna must be devastated.

5. AROM posted on March 07, 2012 at 11:38 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Strange. They never asked Kenny Powers to take a test.

6. Wins Above Paul Westerberg posted on March 07, 2012 at 11:52 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Canseco tried to argue a break in the chain of custody, but the sample is still triple balloon wrapped in the collector's stomach. We'll have to wait until he passes through customs at O'Hare.

7. KT's Pot Arb posted on March 08, 2012 at 12:19 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Outlandish. They have no evidence he doped, other than Canseco's word, and how trustworthy is that?

8. Andere Richtingen

posted on March 08, 2012 at 01:12 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

To be fair, his testicles probably dried up and fell off ten years ago, so you can hardly blame him.

9. Baseballs Most Beloved Figure posted on March 08, 2012 at 02:40 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Like the poor, Jose Canseco steroids stories will always be with us.

10. Dale H. posted on March 08, 2012 at 03:24 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I just hope other 47-year-old former ballplayers don't feel the pressure to have to take supplements just to try and compete with the bad apples that do.

11. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) posted on March 08, 2012 at 09:36 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

The whole thing is just sad.

12. RJames posted on March 08, 2012 at 09:57 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Canseco is the poster child or the ex-jock who mismanaged his future. So badly that he is now 1) broke, 2) unemployable, 3) persona non grata with practically everyone he's ever had any kind of relationship with, public or private and 4) clinically depressed because his endocrine system is so out of whack from decades of drug abuse it no longer functions.

Part of me feels badly for him while the other part knows it was entirely self-inflicted.

13. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The Ship

posted on March 08, 2012 at 10:38 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Part of me feels badly for him while the other part knows it was entirely self-inflicted.

Yeah, but the third part of me wishes that Tod Browning were still alive.

14. Nasty Nate posted on March 08, 2012 at 10:43 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

shoulda had Ozzie take the test for him

15. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) posted on March 08, 2012 at 10:54 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Just out of curiosity, at what point for everyone here did the whole Canseco thing cross the line between funny and sad? Assuming that it has for you, of course...

For me, I think it was Pat Jordan's piece from 2008.

16. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance posted on March 08, 2012 at 10:57 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

The poster child or the ex-jock who mismanaged his future. So badly that he is now 1) broke, 2) unemployable, 3) persona non grata with practically everyone he's ever had any kind of relationship with, public or private and 4) clinically depressed because his endocrine system is so out of whack from decades of drug abuse it no longer functions.

Who is Lenny Dykstra, Alex.
Sporting screw-ups for 600 please.

17. RJames posted on March 08, 2012 at 11:13 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Part of what might have Jose so down is his ex-fiancee is now engaged to Chuch Liddell. The ex, Heidi Northcott, is pregnant with Liddell's child.

I doubt Jose will want to fight him for her.

18. RJames posted on March 08, 2012 at 11:17 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Just out of curiosity, at what point for everyone here did the whole Canseco thing cross the line between funny and sad?

The congressional hearing, where Canseco was all over the place, one moment presenting himself to the panel as a expert witness, another as a champion of the new steroids wonder era, then next recanting and offering to use his fame to expose the dangers of PEDs to America's children, if only Congress would embrace him. His fellow players were openly contemptuous of him, particularly McMwire and Schilling, and he just took it like a tackling dummy.

It was clear the main reason he was there was because he was so desperate for attention.

19. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) posted on March 08, 2012 at 11:30 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Part of what might have Jose so down is his ex-fiancee is now engaged to Chuch Liddell. The ex, Heidi Northcott, is pregnant with Liddell's child.

Poor Chuck.

She really didn't come off very well in the Jordan piece.

20. RJames posted on March 08, 2012 at 11:50 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

She really didn't come off very well in the Jordan piece.

Did anybody?

21. Dave Spiwak posted on March 08, 2012 at 12:47 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Canseco is the poster child or the ex-jock who mismanaged his future. So badly that he is now 1) broke, 2) unemployable, 3) persona non grata with practically everyone he's ever had any kind of relationship with, public or private and 4) clinically depressed because his endocrine system is so out of whack from decades of drug abuse it no longer functions.

Don't jump to conclusions. He's perfect for the standard ex-jock jobs in real estate or auto sales. I'd love to have Canseco show me around a 2009 Dodge Durango or a 3,500 square foot REO in Henderson, NV.

22. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) posted on March 08, 2012 at 01:14 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Did anybody?

The lawyer seemed like an OK guy, and reading the piece made me respect Jordan's abilities as a writer more, since I hadn't read much of his stuff before that.

I'll admit to being morbidly impressed with the candidness of Jose's ex-wife, too.

23. RJames posted on March 08, 2012 at 01:35 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Jordan is famously self-effacing. In A False Spring, he admits to finding out years later the one-nighter he had with a desperate-to-get-out smalltown girl resulted in a child.

What was unsatisfying was after mentioning it, there was no follow-up. Did he try to contact the child? Did he take responsibility for her? ??

24. AROM posted on March 08, 2012 at 01:38 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

"Don't jump to conclusions. He's perfect for the standard ex-jock jobs in real estate or auto sales. I'd love to have Canseco show me around a 2009 Dodge Durango or a 3,500 square foot REO in Henderson, NV."

Even if he's spent every dime he made in baseball, he had about 15 years in the game which I think would imply a pretty decent pension.

25. AROM posted on March 08, 2012 at 01:42 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Or maybe not.

"Baseball: MLB was the first pro sport to set up a pension (1947). It originally offered $100/mo depending on the number of years played. The original requirement was 5 years service time, then it was reduced to 43 days for a full pension (1 day for medical). There are even players who have been called up to the big leagues, sat the bench for a few weeks, never got in a game, and will still receive a pension (The plan only requires the player to be on the roster, not appear in any games). Sweet Deal!!! The minimum a player will receive is $1,000/mo, and it maxes out at $180,000 for players with 10+ years service time. Pensions begin at age 62."

Not sure if they offer a reduced pension if you start to draw early. Canseco's got a while to go before age 62, but then he'll be set.

26. AROM posted on March 08, 2012 at 01:44 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The link:

http://cashmoneylife.com/sports-pensions/

27. Dave Spiwak posted on March 08, 2012 at 02:00 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

28. RJames posted on March 08, 2012 at 02:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Not sure if they offer a reduced pension if you start to draw early. Canseco's got a while to go before age 62, but then he'll be set.

Want to bet he doesn't make it that far?

29. Swedish Chef posted on March 08, 2012 at 02:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

30. charityslave is thinking about baseball posted on March 08, 2012 at 03:12 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Wins Above Paul Westerberg

I am hyperventilating at the pure genius of that screen name.

31. Gonfalon Bubble posted on March 08, 2012 at 06:08 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Color Me Impressed, also.

32. Never Give an Inge (Dave) posted on March 08, 2012 at 06:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'm sure there's somebody out there that would risk loaning him a yearly "stipend" until age 62, if he were willing to enter into a faustian deal where he agreed to sign over a good chunk of his future pension earnings.

Can you really pledge your future pension earnings (i.e. can someone actually get a lien on them)? If not, and the claim wouldn't survive a bankruptcy filing by Canseco, then I don't think that you'd find too many people willing to make that loan.

33. DA Baracus is gritty and hits with RISP posted on March 08, 2012 at 07:18 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

His twitter account is either hilarious, sad or a combination of both.

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