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BPro: Listen to What the Heyman Said

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posted 1 week ago by Repoz to media, sabermetrics | 186 comment(s)

With the Yang-Mills existence problem seemingly solved…we now move on to the Heyman existence problem. Or something.

And sometimes there isn’t much you can do. I wrote what I did about Hawk Harrelson and The Will To Win because at some point, you have to come to the conclusion that someone isn’t worth talking to anymore. Hawk’s problem wasn’t that he was wrong, it was that he was stuck in a frame of mind that starts from conclusions and will, when it cares to, circle back around to ...

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51. What did Billy Ripken have against Elroy Face? posted on February 26, 2013 at 07:57 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I like the early career weird ones like Bobby Bonilla as a White Sox (White Sock?).

Danny Ainge, Blue Jays.

52. What did Billy Ripken have against Elroy Face? posted on February 26, 2013 at 07:59 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

This would be fun to explore a bit, wouldn't it? The army of odd 'super' groups make some odd matches
Jimmy Page & The Firm jumps out

Or we could merge the two concepts, and end up with The Nuge (or Tommy Shaw) as Damn Yankees.

53. Tom Nawrocki posted on February 26, 2013 at 08:00 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Dale Murphy, Philadelphia Phillie. Just as sad to write today as it was to watch then.

Not as sad as Dale Murphy, Colorado Rockie.

54. Perry posted on February 26, 2013 at 08:33 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Will Clark, Cesar Cedeno, and John Smoltz as Cardinals. Dale Murphy and Bret Saberhagen as Rockies.

55. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes posted on February 26, 2013 at 08:45 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

This would be fun to explore a bit, wouldn't it? The army of odd 'super' groups make some odd matches

Terence Trent D'Arby with INXS.

56. vortex of dissipation posted on February 26, 2013 at 08:49 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Crosby, Gilmour, and Nash.

57. yo la tengo posted on February 26, 2013 at 09:01 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Joe Strummer with the Pogues

58. Dock Ellis on Acid

posted on February 26, 2013 at 09:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

There are probably a million of these but Tommy Stinson with Guns-n-Roses comes immediately to mind.

59. Hustle-Related Failure posted on February 26, 2013 at 09:39 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Johnny Marr in Modest Mouse - talk about slumming it.

60. tfbg9 posted on February 26, 2013 at 09:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Lawrence Oliver on Match Game '77?

OK, I made that up. But he was in The Betsy.

61. Sonic Youk posted on February 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

There are probably a million of these but Tommy Stinson with Guns-n-Roses comes immediately to mind.

this is my all time favorite. Also, Chris Mars is a legitimately famous enough artist that I've randomly come across his stuff a few times without seeking it out.

62. Eric Ferguson posted on February 26, 2013 at 10:18 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Courtney Love in Faith No More
The parking attendant from Ferris Bueller's Day Off in Sonic Youth
Randy Savage in the minors

63. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige posted on February 26, 2013 at 10:35 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Manny Ramirez, EDA Rhinos

64. Yastrzemski in left. posted on February 26, 2013 at 11:19 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Randy Moss on the 49ers.

65. Eric J can SABER all he wants to posted on February 26, 2013 at 11:33 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Randy Moss on the 49ers.

The correct answer was "Randy Moss on the Titans."

66. AT-AT at bat@AT&T posted on February 26, 2013 at 11:36 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

johnny depp in nightmare on elm street !

hunter pence in a giants uniform !

where is pac-man when you need him ... ... ..................

67. joyjoykid posted on February 27, 2013 at 12:51 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I still need time to be used to Pos in NBC.

68. BochysFingers posted on February 27, 2013 at 01:13 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Todd Rundgren with the Cars.
Bruce Hornsby with the Grateful Dead.
Roy Orbison, Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, Jeff Lynne and George Harrison as the Travelin' Wilburys.

69. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes posted on February 27, 2013 at 01:42 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Daryl Hall with Robert Fripp.

Laura Nyro with Labelle.

Peter Frampton with the Pogues.

Linda Ronstadt and Jack Bruce with the Jazz Composer's Orchestra.

70. Ellis Valentine's Bright Future posted on February 27, 2013 at 01:42 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Sammy Hagar, Van Halen is the one that ended my childhood.

(Though Ian Gillan with Black Sabbath really rased some new questions in my mind.)

71. BochysFingers posted on February 27, 2013 at 01:47 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

for an early career oddity, Sheryl Crow singing backup for Michael Jackson.

72. Good cripple hitter posted on February 27, 2013 at 02:18 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Mike Watt playing bass on a Kelly Clarkson album.

In a slightly different vein, finding out that David Johannson was the man behind "Hot Hot Hot".

73. Boogie Nights Powell posted on February 27, 2013 at 02:48 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Mick Jagger singing backup for Carly Simon on "You're So Vain"?

74. Drexl Spivey posted on February 27, 2013 at 02:58 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

for an early career oddity, Sheryl Crow singing backup for Michael Jackson.

Nothing will ever top Jimi Hendrix backing Little Richard when it comes to early career oddities.

75. depletion posted on February 27, 2013 at 09:32 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Jimi Hendrix backing Little Richard

To me, this one made a lot of sense. Hendrix was a "for hire" guitarist for whatever R&B band needed a top guy. Jimi probably learned a lot from Richard: showmanship, moustache design, intensity. In an interview available online Richard describes having the Beatles as his opening act in England, then going home and hiring Hendrix for a tour.

76. depletion posted on February 27, 2013 at 09:33 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Tommy Herr as a Met, after years of heated Cards-Mets contests.
Mookie Wilson as a Blue Jay.

77. OsunaSakata posted on February 27, 2013 at 10:02 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I always wanted a Mike Piazza Marlins jersey.

It was funny to see him in the parade of ex-Marlins after the last Florida game at Sun Life Stadium.

78. Ron J2 posted on February 27, 2013 at 10:41 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Eric Clapton in a country album (White Mansions)

79. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on February 27, 2013 at 10:42 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Andre Dawson as a Marlin. I think at one point while he was playing for them he even said he wanted to go in the HOF as a Marlin.

80. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars posted on February 27, 2013 at 10:45 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Who remembers that Steve Carlton and George Foster were teammates on the White Sox?

I remember that the Sox had just started advertising (or maybe it was just their announcers were talking about it a lot) that they were the youngest team in MLB. Then they signed 41-year-old Steve Carlton and George Foster, who was officially 37 but whose baseball skills were much older than that.

81. Tom Nawrocki posted on February 27, 2013 at 11:02 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

In an interview available online Richard describes having the Beatles as his opening act in England, then going home and hiring Hendrix for a tour.

The teenaged Billy Preston was in Richard's band on that tour, which is how the Beatles got to know him.

82. Styles P. Deadball posted on February 27, 2013 at 11:27 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I always wanted a Mike Piazza Marlins jersey.

I remember seeing him appear on some talk show in his Marlins jersey the day or so after the trade. It was that hideous teal green one and I'm pretty sure that the show was taped in LA.

83. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' posted on February 27, 2013 at 12:12 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Daryl Hall with Robert Fripp.

And amazingly enough it was a really strong collaboration. Seriously, Sacred Songs (the Darryl Hall solo LP that was a collaboration with Fripp) is quite magnificent: weirdly accessible Crimsonesque avant-garde with Hall's gorgeous voice over top it all. Hall also contributed vocals to Fripp's solo album Exposure around that time.

No kidding, people, check it out. If you like King Crimson from either '72-'74 or '81-'84, you'll really enjoy the album.

84. beer on a stick posted on March 01, 2013 at 09:19 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

85. beer on a stick posted on March 01, 2013 at 09:20 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Eric Clapton in a country album (White Mansions)

pah...How about Neil Young and the "International Harvesters?"

86. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes posted on March 01, 2013 at 10:07 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Hall also contributed vocals to Fripp's solo album Exposure around that time.

That's how I know about it. Good stuff.

Also, Rick James and Neil Young.
Michael Jackson and Eddie Van Halen.
Michael Jackson and Vincent Price.
Fontella Bass ("Rescue Me") with the Art Ensemble of Chicago.
Miles Davis with Kool Moe Dee.
Jack White and Loretta Lynn.
George Jones and Gene Pitney.

87. Morty Causa posted on March 01, 2013 at 10:19 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

88. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The Ship

posted on March 02, 2013 at 12:14 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Ted Williams playing for the Yankees? He says that might have been. After his final year in Boston, he says in his autobiography, the Yankees during the offseason offered him a cool $100K to just pinch hit for them in 1961. He was titillated but decided to pass. Now, that would have been something.

Given that the 1961 Yanks set their all-time club record with 10 pinch hit home runs, I'm not sure how much added value that extra $100,000 would've given them on the field, although he might have made it up at the box office.

89. Ebessan posted on March 02, 2013 at 12:25 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

And amazingly enough it was a really strong collaboration. Seriously, Sacred Songs (the Darryl Hall solo LP that was a collaboration with Fripp) is quite magnificent: weirdly accessible Crimsonesque avant-garde with Hall's gorgeous voice over top it all. Hall also contributed vocals to Fripp's solo album Exposure around that time.

Absolutely agreed.

Johnny Marr in Modest Mouse - talk about slumming it.

It really was beneath Isaac to hire that old washout.

(The BEST Johnny Marr post-Smiths membership is when he was a Happy Monday for literally twenty minutes after the Ryder brothers kidnapped him, to take to Barbados where they proceeded to release maybe the most disastrous album of all time, but not before letting Marr go because they had forgotten that they were going to hire him. Shaun Ryder is the greatest terrible rock star ever.)

90. Morty Causa posted on March 02, 2013 at 12:31 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

My post had to do with the topic being discussed, which had to do with how weird it would be for certain players to be on certain teams.

But, on the point you raised, I've never heard of a team that thought it had too many pinch hit homers (or pinch hit hits). And, yes, the Yankees would have gotten back at least $100K in publicity and at the box office.

91. Obo posted on March 02, 2013 at 01:07 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Tammy Wynette and the KLF.

As a Blue Jay fan, it was weird having Jack Morris, Dave Winfield, Dave Stewart, Paul Molitor and Rickey Henderson on our side when they'd been big stars for rival teams for so long.

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