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MLB.com does a good job of rotating their live look ins on their gameday, that I'm confident this isn't going to become a Boston/Red Sox product. The West is still going to get the short shrift as always, but this seems like a great way to get a sample of the local announcers without subjecting yourself to an entire game.
I just bought 4 tickets apiece to two separate A's games next month. As part of a promotion sponsored by Chevy, you can get pavilion seats (out in leftfield, decent view) to Tuesday games for just 3 bucks each through the A's website. Even after the handling fees, the 8 tickets cost me less than $35 total. AND parking is free on Tuesdays, as part of the promotion. Getting a group of four into a game for less than $20 including parking is about as cheap as it gets.
7.Lassus posted on April 11, 2012 at 07:12 AM #hit 0 | hit 0
I wonder how quick, mentally, the umpires will be able to adjust to this sort of thing for every call they make.
I hope - although it would be a slow change, humans are like that - they just move closer to computer accuracy.
It's hard to compare, given how different the seasons are and the fact that nearly every football game is on Sunday whereas baseball games are all week and can be day games during the workday.
10.fra paolo posted on April 11, 2012 at 09:43 AM #hit 0 | hit 0
Some interesting facts from Shooty's link.
More people go to NHL games than NFL ones.
The Canadian Football League has higher average attendance than Serie A soccer.
Australian Rules Football beats almost all comers at average attendance.
That link doesn't include things like auto racing, though. I bet NASCAR's average attendance is huge. Are we really the only country in the world with big time collegiate athletics? That's sort of interesting.
Yes, we're the only country that promotes the farce that is big time collegiate athletics.
The list also doesn't seem to include Major League Soccer, which I believe has higher average attendance than either the NBA or the NHL in North America. So says this link, anyway.
I like that more people attended a WWE event than the BCS National Title game, and that a Danish handball game got a bigger crowd than Stanley Cup Finals Game Seven.
Is there a rough estimate on how many people watch the NFL on TV vs. MLB? I think the NFL is going to start really suffering attendance problems, while their TV audience balloons.
That wikipedia list taught me about two new sports: Bandy and Rink Hockey. Bandy is like someone got ice hockey and soccer confused. Rink Hockey is hockey on roller skates, played mostly in Spain and Portugal.
I thought it was just the two Koshien tournaments that were popular?
17.puck posted on April 11, 2012 at 11:35 AM #hit 0 | hit 0
The latest weird sport I came across was sepak takraw (kick volleyball). It looks like a cross between volleyball and soccer and seems like a good way to injure yourself.
The latest weird sport I came across was sepak takraw (kick volleyball). It looks like a cross between volleyball and soccer and seems like a good way to injure yourself.
Wow. Makes you wonder why Thailand is so crap at soccer.
19.Gamingboy posted on April 11, 2012 at 11:59 AM #hit 0 | hit 0
With the exception of some really niche things like rowing contests between Oxford and Cambridge, I think it is basically safe to say that the USA is the only country in the world where college sports gets any attention, although I think the Canucks pay some mild attention to their college sports.
This is mainly because of how in other parts of the world, by the time athletic prospects are college age they are either in academies, playing in junior leagues, in the pros straight out of high school, etc.
This is mainly because of how in other parts of the world, by the time athletic prospects are college age they are either in academies, playing in junior leagues, in the pros straight out of high school, etc.
Might some of it also be more of our population goes to college? Its not a given that even middle-class western Europeans will go to college someday, but we heard them up like they're degree factories.
21.Derb posted on April 11, 2012 at 12:23 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
The latest weird sport I came across was sepak takraw (kick volleyball). It looks like a cross between volleyball and soccer and seems like a good way to injure yourself.
That's awesome. Those are some crazy athletes.
22.NJ in NY posted on April 11, 2012 at 12:38 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
Wait, am I the only one that doesn't understand the point of a Strike Zone Channel? Doesn't MLB Network already do rotating live look-ins? (Hell, doesn't Baseball Tonight even do this on occasion?)
Might some of it also be more of our population goes to college?
Mostly it's the fact that there is no such thing as college sports over here. Of course there are some clubs around that cater mostly to students and are part of the community around an university, some quite serious, but students that do sports do it in the normal club/league setup for that sport.
Wait, am I the only one that doesn't understand the point of a Strike Zone Channel? Doesn't MLB Network already do rotating live look-ins? (Hell, doesn't Baseball Tonight even do this on occasion?)
I'm so glad I'm not alone. The only difference is that this channel will be much more focused on live action rather than the "studio to action to studio" kind of approach. But yeah, it seems like the same thing.
Wait, am I the only one that doesn't understand the point of a Strike Zone Channel? Doesn't MLB Network already do rotating live look-ins? (Hell, doesn't Baseball Tonight even do this on occasion?)
I figured this would be the MLB version of the NFL's Redzone channel, which is just basically all live games, switching to the ones where a team is likely to score and then also showing replays of every scoring play that they don't catch live. MLBN has the live look ins on their one show(MLB Tonight?) but that is a studio show, dedicated to recaps and talking head blather.
26.Eddo posted on April 11, 2012 at 01:18 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
Why would you use gross attendance figures to compare sports with wildly varying numbers of games per season? The average per-game attendance is right there on the page, too!
Of course, a strict average isn't necessarily appropriate, either; the NFL is advantaged there, since roughly 90% of all games are on weekends.
But gross attendance is worse than average attendance, in my opinion.
But gross attendance is worse than average attendance, in my opinion.
I realize gross isn't impressive, but MLB averages 30K a game for about a billion games a year. That is massively impressive, not just for the sheer numbers, but that they can keep the level of interest that high while supplying so much product.
28.Eddo posted on April 11, 2012 at 01:54 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
I realize gross isn't impressive, but MLB averages 30K a game for about a billion games a year. That is massively impressive, not just for the sheer numbers, but that they can keep the level of interest that high while supplying so much product.
Oh, certainly. There is definitely a sliding scale involved.
I guess I've just seen too many arguments touting MLB's superiority in moralizing tones based on gross attendance figures. I do not think you were doing so, but I was just throwing out a comment anyway.
29.Santo posted on April 11, 2012 at 02:04 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
Might some of it also be more of our population goes to college? Its not a given that even middle-class western Europeans will go to college someday, but we heard them up like they're degree factories.
Not sure this is true. Certainly the UK has an extremely high college rate, and in Denmark most people are educated to masters level -- that is the minimum expectation just as an Undergrad degree is in the UK/US.
The latest weird sport I came across was sepak takraw (kick volleyball). It looks like a cross between volleyball and soccer and seems like a good way to injure yourself.
Youth hockey is pretty big in Canada, right? But that's not the same thing as college hockey.
The two big-time college sports in the U.S., basketball and football, developed as college sports first and professional leagues second. I am guessing that is the primary reason for the discrepancy. Without the history that developed, there's no reason for those leagues to be associated with universities in other countries.
32.geonose posted on April 11, 2012 at 04:14 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
Wait, am I the only one that doesn't understand the point of a Strike Zone Channel? Doesn't MLB Network already do rotating live look-ins?
Those "live look-ins" are a long way from live. They are often 10-15 minutes after the fact. Maybe the Strike Zone Channel will be something more live.
I realize gross isn't impressive, but MLB averages 30K a game for about a billion games a year.
That's also tickets sold, not actual attendance. MLB must have a higher no-show rate than the other sports, it's really easy to let some of 81 games slide unused, especially by corporate buyers.
I guess I've just seen too many arguments touting MLB's superiority in moralizing tones based on gross attendance figures. I do not think you were doing so, but I was just throwing out a comment anyway.
And I've seen way too many idiots argue for popularity based upon tv ratings.
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1. Best Regards, L.M. posted on April 10, 2012 at 08:40 PM # hit 0 | hit 0I hope - although it would be a slow change, humans are like that - they just move closer to computer accuracy.
It's hard to compare, given how different the seasons are and the fact that nearly every football game is on Sunday whereas baseball games are all week and can be day games during the workday.
More people go to NHL games than NFL ones.
The Canadian Football League has higher average attendance than Serie A soccer.
Australian Rules Football beats almost all comers at average attendance.
The list also doesn't seem to include Major League Soccer, which I believe has higher average attendance than either the NBA or the NHL in North America. So says this link, anyway.
Is there a rough estimate on how many people watch the NFL on TV vs. MLB? I think the NFL is going to start really suffering attendance problems, while their TV audience balloons.
High-school baseball is huge in Japan.
I thought it was just the two Koshien tournaments that were popular?
Wow. Makes you wonder why Thailand is so crap at soccer.
This is mainly because of how in other parts of the world, by the time athletic prospects are college age they are either in academies, playing in junior leagues, in the pros straight out of high school, etc.
Might some of it also be more of our population goes to college? Its not a given that even middle-class western Europeans will go to college someday, but we heard them up like they're degree factories.
That's awesome. Those are some crazy athletes.
Mostly it's the fact that there is no such thing as college sports over here. Of course there are some clubs around that cater mostly to students and are part of the community around an university, some quite serious, but students that do sports do it in the normal club/league setup for that sport.
I'm so glad I'm not alone. The only difference is that this channel will be much more focused on live action rather than the "studio to action to studio" kind of approach. But yeah, it seems like the same thing.
I figured this would be the MLB version of the NFL's Redzone channel, which is just basically all live games, switching to the ones where a team is likely to score and then also showing replays of every scoring play that they don't catch live. MLBN has the live look ins on their one show(MLB Tonight?) but that is a studio show, dedicated to recaps and talking head blather.
Of course, a strict average isn't necessarily appropriate, either; the NFL is advantaged there, since roughly 90% of all games are on weekends.
But gross attendance is worse than average attendance, in my opinion.
I realize gross isn't impressive, but MLB averages 30K a game for about a billion games a year. That is massively impressive, not just for the sheer numbers, but that they can keep the level of interest that high while supplying so much product.
Oh, certainly. There is definitely a sliding scale involved.
I guess I've just seen too many arguments touting MLB's superiority in moralizing tones based on gross attendance figures. I do not think you were doing so, but I was just throwing out a comment anyway.
Not sure this is true. Certainly the UK has an extremely high college rate, and in Denmark most people are educated to masters level -- that is the minimum expectation just as an Undergrad degree is in the UK/US.
The latest weird sport I came across was sepak takraw (kick volleyball). It looks like a cross between volleyball and soccer and seems like a good way to injure yourself.
Holy #### that is awesome.
Youth hockey is pretty big in Canada, right? But that's not the same thing as college hockey.
The two big-time college sports in the U.S., basketball and football, developed as college sports first and professional leagues second. I am guessing that is the primary reason for the discrepancy. Without the history that developed, there's no reason for those leagues to be associated with universities in other countries.
Those "live look-ins" are a long way from live. They are often 10-15 minutes after the fact. Maybe the Strike Zone Channel will be something more live.
That's also tickets sold, not actual attendance. MLB must have a higher no-show rate than the other sports, it's really easy to let some of 81 games slide unused, especially by corporate buyers.
And I've seen way too many idiots argue for popularity based upon tv ratings.
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