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I would just like umpires to forget the words "shown up" forever. If you made the right call, it's literally impossible for anyone to show you up, no matter how unprofessional they act. That should be your only concern
"Sir, how dare you deem to judge me from over 90 feet away! My honour hath been besmirched! Pistols at dawn! Mr. Ian Desmond shall act as my second, may I enquire as to the identity of yours?"
Given the general level of ######## and moaning by players, I don't really mind that Hirshbeck said something, but after he said something, he has to give Harper a chance to get off the field. The home-plate ump was trying to talk Harper off the field, and the 3B coach was on his way (at Hirshbeck's apparent request) to do the same.
Turn around, and give them a minute to get Harper into the dugout. If he refuses and keeps standing there, or keeps talking, then run him.
Looks like Hirshbecks been losing at the track lately, and need to make up for it.
That worked out well for him.
I think the fact that Harper held his arms in the air for a long-time is what set off Hirshbeck. Not to say he was right, but Harper did more than just disagree.
Anyone with the Pirates and 1.5 runs, or the under on 7 runs, had an awesome betting edge when Hirshbeck took care of business. They didn't end up winning yesterday, but that doesn't matter in the long run they will win plenty if they keep getting huge assists from Hirshbeck.
I mean, i don't like harper at all
i think one could argue that the home plate umpire does
i am sure a few braves fans would have appreciated an investigation after eric Gregg and the 1997 playoffs.
I disagree. The umpire works for the league, and has the responsibility of making the game move along without endless petty bickering. $%$%@ing about a call is a selfish activity by the player that makes the game less fun for everybody else.
There are unwritten rules about how much a player can argue, just like there are about everything else in baseball. Theatrically throwing your hands and bat in the air to express your exasperation is well over the line, and should result in ejection every time.
This seems like the same kind of #### that comes from police officers that act in an aggressive, confrontational manner that goads who they're talking to. "Hey, I wasn't going to arrest/eject, but then he questioned my authority, and I have no choice". Maybe don't be a spectacular dick to people and situations are more likely to defuse?
Too bad for kids in Pittsburgh who were excited for their chance to see Harper.
Can I ask why? I'm a little biased (Harper owner in my SOM league)
You had me nodding my head in agreement right up until the last sentence.
Good lord. Kids in Pittsburgh should come to see Pirates play,
He didn't stand there yapping until Hirshbeck started yelling. Maybe flinging your arms up with bat in hand warrants an ejection (although I don't think it does) but the umpire has no business jawing at a silent player.
Any time that ump is behind the plate, all he has to do is call the close ones your way (and there are plenty of close ones during a game of 250+ pitches).
10 to 1 that if this had happened to a player from the Braves instead of a Nationals, Sammy boy would be singing a different tune...
This is why fantasy baseball is evil. It makes people root for players who are actively opposed to their team's chances of winning. No one outside of the moral simpletons that are Natinal fans should ever want Bryce Harper to succeed. If you do, you're a terrible baseball fan.
This is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on BBTF.
You're telling us you want every player in baseball not wearing your laundry to fail every time?
Must be a really miserable way to be a "fan."
This is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on BBTF. You're telling us you want every player in baseball not wearing your laundry to fail every time? Must be a really miserable way to be a "fan."
Rob has a gif of harper's "reaction" in his comments section now, and to claim that harper showed up hirschbeck in any way, slammed his bat or helmet down, or was out of line is absurd.
How many is plenty?
More than some, but surely less than most.
Rob? Who is this? Link?
I'd love to see a non-edited sequence.
Pretty sure the "unedited footage" will clearly show that there was, in fact, a "second slammer" who actually committed the equipment violation.
That's 90% Hirshbeck's fault. Maybe more. [...]
But this was a short-fuse umpire TRYING to provoke a 20-year-old player. Hirshbeck threw up his arms a split second after he called the checked swing strike, almost before he could see Harper's reaction at the plate __which wasn't very bad. Then Hirshbeck walked straight at him, yelling, challenging him to do anything so he could throw him out. By the time he'd been heaved Harper still didn't seem to have done much of anything except one arms-above-head with bat in hands gesture which sounds worse than it looked.
Bryce Harper plays the game the right way. John Hirchbeck umpires the game the wrong way.
Hirshbeck deserves some symbolic disciplinary action by MLB even if it is only a small fine.
Also, Hirshbeck's post-game comments misrepresent what the tape clearly shows __that he was far more the cause of the problem than Harper and that he was NOT trying to give the kid a break and keep him in the game. Just the opposite. He was looking to throw him out. I've seen no pattern of Harper showing up umpires this season. Maybe I'm missing something but I doubt it very much. [...]
BTW, I was on a weekend trip to play golf with my son and I didn't see the game live. I read about it, plus the quotes. I expected Harper to be at fault __from the descriptions and from my, incorrect, assumption that the 20-year-old would be the immature one and the veteran umpire mature. When I saw it, I said, "Hirshbeck was just gunning to heave him." I was pretty close to amazed.
Bryce Harper plays the game the right way.
Because he's baseball Jesus.
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