Go to end of page
Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.
Page 1 of 2 pages
Berlin supported the presidential candidacy of General Dwight Eisenhower, and his song "I Like Ike" featured prominently in the Eisenhower campaign. In his later years he also became more conservative in his views on music. According to his daughter, "He was consumed by patriotism." He often said, "I owe all my success to my adopted country" and once rejected his lawyers' advice to invest in tax shelters, insisting, "I want to pay taxes. I love this country.":80
Sorry frogs and commies, but Wales has you beat.
This, on the other hand, seems like it could be a fascinating discussion to me. I don't think it's precisely what you're getting at, but the politics of gesture and self-presentation I find endlessly interesting. Teasing out the differences between the "actual" self and the "performed" self is a fun (and possibly impossible) exercise!
Thank god you're here to tell us all who I really am. Otherwise nobody would have been capable of making up their own mind.
It's also a really bad song. The lyrics are forced ("white with foam" is really terrible) and the musical emphasis is in silly places.
Saying "nuh-uh, God roots for America, pal" ennobles that ####, it doesn't refute it.
Because the "God Bless America" stadium experience is all about meekness and humility.
Not the anthem, but I like this Welsh rugby song:
We don't wanna be,
There is no distinction. The performed self is the only self. Anything else is mere theory and spin.
Meh. The Battle Hymn of the Republic is by far the best patriotic song that we have. Beats GBA and TSSB by a country mile. This Land Is Your Land is a close second.
I'm partial to the The Stars and Stripes Forever and Semper Fidelis
It's also lucky that few of you had to go through daily Bible recitations at the start of each day, which was a standard practice in every public school through the early 60's. When it was our turn to recite, we'd have our choice of selections, and for us non-believers it was always---always---the 117th Psalm, which is something like 30 words long. We were in and out in a New York minute.
For the fate of the sons of men and the fate of beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts; for all is vanity. All go to one place; all are from the dust, and all turn to dust again. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down to the earth? So I saw that there is nothing better than that a man should enjoy his work, for that is his lot; who can bring him to see what will be after him?
the best part was that the team that appropriated it had the league's dirtiest player in Bobby Clarke, the most egregious diver of all time in Bill Barber, and a collection of street thugs in hockey skates known as "the Broad Street Bullies."
God Bless America, indeed, lol
As I went walking I saw a sign there
And on the sign it said "No Trespassing."
But on the other side it didn't say nothing,
That side was made for you and me.
In the squares of the city, In the shadow of a steeple;
By the relief office, I'd seen my people.
As they stood there hungry, I stood there asking,
Is this land made for you and me?
More important, though, I’m concerned that this is a myopic way to exercise faith. I imagine that the God I believe in isn’t interested in dispensing special nationalistic blessings. (Or, perhaps more to the point, blessings for our bullpen, error-free fielding and sufficient run support.) [...]
At a ballgame, where most of us have come to root for the Nats, it just doesn’t fit. We shouldn’t make a grand assumption that we’re all of one belief. The one thing that we do, in fact, have in common is the love of baseball. It’s a powerful, communal thing when we cheer together — even if we’re cheering for opposite teams. Yes, this even applies to Phillies fans.
I'm the first socialist communist peacenik anti-establishment your-mob-is-lame type to sit out patriotic displays, and even speak out against them, jingoistic or not; but I have to say this particular battle on this particular battleground is not even worth my fight or my time. Or anyone's, IMO, but I suppose that's up to them.
Canada doesn't seem to fair as well. There's the anthem of course, the Travellers' version of "This Land Is Your Land" (which has to be docked patriotism points for being an alternate version to someone else's patriotic song).
Patriotism, like all tribal emotionalisms, is essentially stupid.
Anyway, I don't think it's practical for an atheist to take a stand against religious songs. Some of them are really pretty!
That doesn't address the fact that most atheists who object to GBA at baseball games don't object to "religious songs," per se. They object to being forced to play along with religiously themed rituals just to see a ball game. (Add in the knee jerk militarist fetish at sporting events in America and you have a really uncomfortable experience for non-religious, pacifist sorts.)
If you pay me, I will sing to whatever god you like.
"God Bless America" doesn't have children; the foam is contraceptive. It's also harder to get the job done standing beside her.
You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.
Login to Join (2 members)
Page rendered in 0.4102 seconds, 58 querie(s) executed