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1001. SoSH U at work posted on January 01, 2013 at 07:22 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

There's no reason the Bears shouldn't be one of the more successful teams,

Why should the Bears be expected to be one of the more successful teams?

1002. Moses Taylor peacocks peacock posted on January 01, 2013 at 07:43 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

is the new coach going to be allowed to rebuild since the gm yammered about the playoffs?

I don't see why not. Doesn't have to be a complete tear down.

Why should the Bears be expected to be one of the more successful teams?

History and market. Those obviously mean less in the NFL than other leagues, but still can mean something.

1003. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 01, 2013 at 07:46 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

moses

one guy who might help is greg jennings. jennings is almost certainly gone from green bay and the guy is great from the slot.

it would pain me but it might make sense for chicago

1004. SoSH U at work posted on January 01, 2013 at 07:54 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

History and market. Those obviously mean less in the NFL than other leagues, but still can mean something.

I don't know what it would be.

1005. Eddo posted on January 01, 2013 at 07:54 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Only coach now with a longer tenure is Belichick (and Reid was too, before his firing).

This is the third or fourth time I've seen this fact stated, in one way or another, and every time, people forget about Marvin Lewis.

1006. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 01, 2013 at 07:59 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

eddo

i think mike brown has forgotten about marvin lewis

1007. Der_K posted on January 01, 2013 at 08:23 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Hw, I'm no charger fan (nor much of a football guy in general) but, as I understand it, they've lost a majority of their linemen + rivers might be more susceptible than most to issues here (he's not real mobile). Lemme look for a citation...

This gives me the impression that they were down to 3 linemen (+ a replacement level guy they had just added). I know I'd heard that they were playing a tight end in that capacity at one point, out of desperation...

I could be mistaken, mind you ... again, I'm not a football guy.

1008. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 01, 2013 at 08:29 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

der

i know that the chargers line has been hard hit due to injury, poor drafting and guys leaving. but good quarterbacks still find a way to make plays.

that has been my observation

quick reference is the indy line which is pretty poor and lets luck get creamed about 10 times a game

1009. Biff, highly-regarded young guy posted on January 01, 2013 at 09:07 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Yet, there are teams that make it virtually every year so that when they miss it, it's a big deal - like the Steelers this year, or the Patriots the year Brady was hurt, or when the Packers miss.

And, of course, the Patriots won 11 damn games that year but missed the playoffs.

1010. Der_K posted on January 01, 2013 at 09:18 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Oh, I think rivers has lost a step, but my conjecture is that even an subpar line bumps him up from garbage to decent.
(/2cents)

1011. Yardape posted on January 01, 2013 at 09:40 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'm not sure that you'd want [A.J. Smith] picking the next coach, but I'm not convinced that he needed to go.

My understanding is that Smith had said he wouldn't fire Turner and that they were essentially a package deal at this point.

1012. Kurt posted on January 01, 2013 at 09:56 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The other thing that seems to have coincided with Rivers' decline is the loss of Darren Sproles.

1013. Der_K posted on January 01, 2013 at 10:01 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

1011 - if so, that's foolish or asking for retirement.
1012 - oh sure, kurt

1014. Kurt posted on January 01, 2013 at 10:23 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Schefter is reporting that Andy Reid is 95% likely to go to the Cardinals.

1015. Tripon posted on January 01, 2013 at 10:29 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'm not sure its a upgrade from Wisenhunt and Andy Reid. You can't tell me that Reid knows how to draft a QB, RB and basically an entire offense. His last 3 or 4 years shows he's not good in that area.

1016. Kurt posted on January 01, 2013 at 10:54 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Watkins looks like a bust, but other that that their drafting on offense doesn't seem so terrible. The problem is most of their recent high picks and big money free agents have been on defense, and *that* stinks.

1017. Moses Taylor peacocks peacock posted on January 02, 2013 at 01:15 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Adam Schefter ?@AdamSchefter
Ray Lewis announced he is retiring at the end of the season.

1018. McCoy Wilfong for Money posted on January 02, 2013 at 01:17 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

So who are the leading candidates for the Bears' job?

1019. Kurt posted on January 02, 2013 at 01:19 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Apparently they're interviewing Green Bay's OC (forget his name).

1020. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 02, 2013 at 01:26 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

tom clements?

1021. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) posted on January 02, 2013 at 01:37 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Phil Emery gives a fairly thoughtful response on the O-line here.

1022. Moses Taylor peacocks peacock posted on January 02, 2013 at 01:39 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

So who are the leading candidates for the Bears' job?

You. Broncos OC Mike McCoy, Buccaneers OC Mike Sullivan, Clements, Cowboys ST coach Joe DeCamillis and Falcons ST coach Keith Armstrong have interviews scheduled, from what I've seen. I've seen other names rumored, but nothing listed as interviewees yet.

I follow Brad Biggs for these updates, as his facts are usually right. He must be Bears ST coach Dave Toub's agent or something considering how much he's pushing for him to get interviewed (he asked Emery yesterday about him):

Brad Biggs ?@BradBiggs
Will be interesting to see whether or not Phil Emery and #Bears consider special teams coordinator Dave Toub for head coaching position.

Brad Biggs ?@BradBiggs
#Falcons special teams coach Keith Armstrong has interview with #Bears scheduled. If they want to look at an ST coach, explain why not Toub?

Brad Biggs ?@BradBiggs
Emery asked if Dave Toub is a candidate: "No one is excluded." That doesn't sound like he is included either.

Brad Biggs ?@BradBiggs
So, that puts 2 special teams coaches on Phil Emery's radar and while he didn't rule out Dave Toub, he didn't include him on his list today.

1023. Eddo posted on January 02, 2013 at 01:46 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

From reports I've read so far, the Bears have requested interviews with the following:

- Mike McCoy (Denver OC)
- Keith Armstrong (Atlanta ST)
- Joe DeCamillis (Dallas ST)
- Mike Sullivan (Tampa Bay OC)
- Tom Clements (Green Bay OC)

I definitely like the fact that no defensive coordinators are in there.

And of course, candidates that are not currently affiliated with an NFL franchise do not need requests, so there might be more.

1024. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 02, 2013 at 01:46 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

chris

that was a long response.

i didn't see anything in there about coaching

did i miss that?

1025. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) posted on January 02, 2013 at 02:32 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Harvey:

Nope, but I think the focus of the discussion was on personnel. And realistically, coaching won't fix that OL, will it?

1026. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 02, 2013 at 03:33 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

chris

i am a big believer in coaching. i don't think it's coincidence that the packers draft a bunch of guys or pick up guys as undrafted free agents and get them to play. not making green bay out to be amazing just that don barclay was a nobody off the street and now he's a starting right tackle in the nfl and he's a 100 times better than gabe carimi. a gabe carimi who doesn't look at all like the guy who played at wisconsin i might add.

green bay's starting center is also an undrafted free agent. they sat pro bowler (feel free to chuckle) jeff saturday to get this guy in the lineup because he's better at run blocking. played his first game at center in the crazy dome and didn't have a blown assignment or bad snap on all silent counts

i think if you look across the league you will find similar things among good teams. offensive linemen are found under rocks and then coached up versus arriving as nearly finished products.

fundamentally i think the bears stink at coaching line play

1027. Tom Nawrocki posted on January 02, 2013 at 03:41 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Why would the Bears interview outside special teams coaches, when they already have the best ST coach in the league on their staff? That makes no sense at all.

1028. Moses Taylor peacocks peacock posted on January 02, 2013 at 03:56 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Why would the Bears interview outside special teams coaches, when they already have the best ST coach in the league on their staff? That makes no sense at all

Because then they might have to replace the best ST coach in the league? I dunno. I guess he could pull double duty. How many ST coaches went on to become HC without another coordinator stop on the way? Seems like a big jump. FWIW (and because I've seen it mentioned elsewhere), Armstrong helps the Bears adhere to the Rooney rule (but that doesn't explain them also interviewing DeCamillis).

I have to say though, were they to hire Toub as HC, my initial reaction would be disappointment (I'm not saying that's fair to him, but an internal promotion doesn't seem like an upgrade was even attempted).

1029. Tom Nawrocki posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:06 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

How many ST coaches went on to become HC without another coordinator stop on the way?

Frank Gansz of the Chiefs is the only one I'm aware of. Which points up the entire issue: If you're going to elevate a ST coach to head coach, he had better be a truly outstanding special teams coach. And the only truly outstanding special teams coach in the league right now is Dave Toub, who has the benefit of already being on the team and having the respect of the players.

I wouldn't be thrilled about elevating Toub either, but it makes tons more sense than elevating someone else's special teams coach. Besides, if they did that, Toub would almost certainly leave, wouldn't he?

1030. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:10 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

from a pure management perspective i think you have to give one of the existing guys the courtesy of an interview to let people know there is the ability to move up in the organization

though i get taht pro sports operates a bit differently

1031. Moses Taylor peacocks peacock posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:12 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I wouldn't be thrilled about elevating Toub either, but it makes tons more sense than elevating someone else's special teams coach. Besides, if they did that, Toub would almost certainly leave, wouldn't he?

Yes. Even interviewing other ST coaches and not him might get him to leave (he is still under contract for next year though - all the ass't coaches technically are).

It's still weird that Biggs is stumping for him so much (those tweets are only the ones since Lovie's firing, he's brought it up multiple times throughout the year).

HW, agreed.

1032. Moses Taylor peacocks peacock posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:15 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

BTW, I've been thinking about the Jennings suggestion. I'm not sure I think the Bears are interested in investing that much more in WR. They really need a speed guy though (what people say Hester is, and what Knox kinda was before his back injury). How are his wheels these days? Not that him and Marshall are the same guy, but I think they're not dissimilar enough to pay both guys a ton.

I would guess most of the money they spend will go into the OL and overall depth (maybe a new MLB).

1033. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:19 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

moses

jennings was leading the nfl over a healthy several year period on catches over 40 yards before he missed most of 2012. jennings gets in and out of breaks faster than anyone which is how he gets real separation.

i think speed is overrated so i am not the guy to ask about that aspect of a player.

1034. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

How many ST coaches went on to become HC without another coordinator stop on the way?

John Harbaugh

1035. Moses Taylor peacocks peacock posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:36 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Hmmm, Harbaugh was also the DB coach in Philly for year. He also coached all over the place in college (TE, RB, OLB, Secondary), but never was an Off or Def coordinator. I think that fits the spirit of what I'm looking for.

Unfortunately for Toub, he only has 2 years as a non-ST position coach (DL) in college. So while not that far off, he does have a more limited experience level (at least in title).

1036. you got a STEAGLES? you're gonna need a STEAGLES. posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:49 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Schefter is reporting that Andy Reid is 95% likely to go to the Cardinals.

i do not think that is a good idea. i could be wrong and it may be that getting out of philly will completely and immediately recharge andy reid's battery, but there was just so much that went wrong here in philly that it really seems farfetched to believe that he'll be able to just walk into arizona and fix their issues.

and again, i hold no ill will towards the man personally, but i would really be happy if he went the way of george seifert.

1037. smileyy posted on January 02, 2013 at 04:53 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Maybe he could win something on a cold day, and go the way of George Allen?

BBTF is mangling the link, so:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Allen_(American_football_coach)#Death

1038. Pops Freshenmeyer posted on January 02, 2013 at 05:07 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

not making green bay out to be amazing just that don barclay was a nobody off the street and now he's a starting right tackle in the nfl and he's a 100 times better than gabe carimi. a gabe carimi who doesn't look at all like the guy who played at wisconsin i might add.

Carimi had a pretty severe knee injury last year and basically missed the entire season. I don't know enough about offensive line play to say how much his performance might be due to that one issue.

1039. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 02, 2013 at 05:26 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

pops

i have asked about that in other threads and nobody seems to know if it's a factor or not

1040. Moses Taylor peacocks peacock posted on January 02, 2013 at 05:43 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Supposedly Carimi was still hurt this year:

Dan Bernstein ?@dan_bernstein
What Emery didn't say in the o-line talk was that Carimi played on one leg all year. They think he'll be 100% for the first time for OTAs.

If true, he'll be given a chance again next year. Unsure what position that will be at (he played some RG after being benched at RT). But you know knee problems for 300lb men seem to linger. That "first time" will be ever with the Bears, as he hurt the knee in the first game of his career.

1041. Harveys Wallbangers

posted on January 02, 2013 at 05:47 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

moses

that would explain a lot since lateral movement is critical. bulaga of the packers was a turnstile some games playing on a bad leg

1042. McCoy Wilfong for Money posted on January 02, 2013 at 06:50 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Phil Emery gives a fairly thoughtful response on the O-line here.

Him talking about STATS and the playoffs seemed a little weird. He probably should have been comparing the STATS stuff to the other team's offensives and not who did or did not make the playoffs.

1043. McCoy Wilfong for Money posted on January 02, 2013 at 06:55 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Bears special teams didn't really impress me much this year. I think Hester has lost a step and the kickoff rule change has basically defanged much of the potency of special teams. Without Hester's speed it is really hard to evaluate how the Bears' ST does in their blocking assignments and so forth.

1044. Moses Taylor peacocks peacock posted on January 02, 2013 at 07:05 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The coverage unit was still top notch. And FWIW, Football Outsiders had their ST unit ranked 6th this year by their numbers.

1045. Moses Taylor peacocks peacock posted on January 02, 2013 at 11:57 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

ProFootballTalk ?@ProFootballTalk
Saints O.C. Pete Carmichael is currently interviewing for the Bears' head coaching job, per league source.

Another Bears candidate.

Brad Biggs ?@BradBiggs
Don't be surprised if interviews of ST coaches Keith Armstrong & Joe DeCamillis leads back to interview for Dave Toub. http://trib.in/UdoRAG

Holy ####, dude. It's getting creepy. From the link:

If Emery wants to explore the Harbaugh model, it would seem chances are good at some point he will involve Bears special teams coordinator Dave Toub. Toub remains under contract to the Bears through 2013 so there would be no rush to sit down with him.

"No one is excluded," Emery said when asked if Toub would be interviewed. "We have some excellent coaches on our staff and I'm not excluding anybody.

"We're going to look offensively, we're going to look defensively, we're going to look special teams, we're going to look NFL, we're going to look college."

Toub interviewed for the Dolphins' head coaching job last January and has consistently operated one of the finest units in the league. Part of the appeal of a special teams coach is he is the only coach other than the head coach that works with nearly the entire roster. Emery, a strength and conditioning coach in college, has a similar background as an assistant who works with all players. In that way, he shares a common background with Toub, who was a strength coach for 15 seasons at Missouri and UTEP.

Absolutely nothing new, yet he writes another story about it.

1046. baudib posted on January 02, 2013 at 11:59 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Andy Reid free since 2012! It's such a weight off my shoulders, there's a chance I won't feel stupid rooting for the Eagles this year.

1047. zack posted on January 03, 2013 at 12:15 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

U S A! U S A!

1048. Nasty Nate posted on January 03, 2013 at 12:55 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Any football gamblers? I lost last week on GB vs the Vikings, but am tempted to bet on them again, even though they are currently giving 4.5 more points than in the game in which they couldn't cover. I fear I may be stubborn.

1049. JJ1986 posted on January 03, 2013 at 01:01 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Any football gamblers? I lost last week on GB vs the Vikings, but am tempted to bet on them again, even though they are currently giving 4.5 more points than in the game in which they couldn't cover. I fear I may be stubborn.

I like all 4 home teams this weekend, which worries me because I think 2-3 road teams usually cover on WC weekend. I'll probably only bet Houston because I see them running all over the Bengals.

1050. Nasty Nate posted on January 03, 2013 at 01:09 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I like all 4 home teams this weekend, which worries me because I think 2-3 road teams usually cover on WC weekend. I'll probably only bet Houston because I see them running all over the Bengals.

Interesting. I was leaning towards Cinci.

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