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KC can support 2 teams, right?
And back when I was a kid I thought SF was on the mainland for some reason.
Is Jarry still standing?
Uniprix Stadium (French: Stade Uniprix) is the main tennis court at the Canada Masters tournament in Montreal, Quebec. Built in 1996, the centre court stadium currently holds 11,700 spectators. It was formerly known as Du Maurier Stadium, after the cigarettes brand. It had since been renamed after Uniprix, a major pharmacy chain in Quebec.
The twelve courts at this venue use the DecoTurf cushioned acrylic surface, the same surface as the U.S. Open Grand Slam event.
Its core seating area is a remnant of the former Major League Baseball stadium on the site, Jarry Park Stadium, the original home of the Montreal Expos.
Uniprix? Gotta be "pree" on that last syllable.
The problem with the "move the A's" thing is that there's nowhere to go. As a practical matter, the best available market is . . . the Bay Area. I mean, NY/NJ or the Inland Empire of CA could support another team, but that's never going to happen. Other than that, the options are . . . what? Portland? You're just creating another Kansas City / Milwaukee-type market, and the city ain't paying for a new stadium. Las Vegas? Far too small. Vancouver, Montreal? Yeah, right.
Las Vegas? Far too small.
I think Maury Brown did something recently and basically said that, yeah, in essence, there's nowhere to go, and the places that they COULD go to either are already firmly in other teams' territory, lack major corporate bases, or have some other type of red flag (like the fact Montreal JUST LOST THEIR TEAM a decade ago and only now is even half-seriously being put forward as a possible candidate for getting one again).
Total City GMP TV Pop65 Portland 20 22 2375 Orlando 30 19 2677 Sacramento 33 20 2479 Charlotte 21 25 3385 Indianapolis 25 26 3495 Columbus 31 32 3297 San Antonio 36 36 25102 Nashville 35 29 38104 Las Vegas 34 40 30112 Austin 32 45 35116 Hartford 41 30 45121 Raleigh 49 24 48125 Salt Lake C. 42 33 50131 Oklahoma Cty 46 41 44135 Memphis 45 49 41137 Louisville 47 48 42138 Jacksonville 48 50 40141 Birmingham 50 42 49
The problem with the "move the A's" thing is that there's nowhere to go.
I've always thought that Las Vegas could absolutely support a team with their tourist base, IF they were allowed to run the team in a very Vegas-style way, with lots of glitz.
The A's co-tenants, the Raiders, played their initial AFL home season of 1960 at Candlestick Park (and yes, that year they were named the Oakland Raiders).
I don't get how this threat would work. Are the Giants offering to host the A's? The Giants own their ballpark. Not sure how MLB would force them to open up for the A's.
Yeah, this thing sounds rather far-fetched to me. I suppose anything's possible, but sharing the Giants' ballpark would be suboptimal for both the A's and Giants.
None of these look like really good choices. Orlando has to be out because of Tampa and Miami. Portland couldn't support AAA baseball and wouldn't be likely to build a stadium. Charlotte just isn't all that big, and despite the GMP it's a financial center that hasn't really recovered from the banking crisis. So the Inland Empire? Indianapolis? Why would either of these work better than San Jose?
If you hope to have 2 million tourists come to games, you probably need 1 of every 12 to 15 visitors to come to a game (assuming that some will go to more than one). Is this doable?
I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the Continental League, which was championed not by Branch Rickey III, but by the genuine article. It was that threat that prompted renewed congressional rumblings about the anti-trust exemption, and then prompted MLB to finally expand in 1960-61.
I think the best place for an A's stadium would be Vallejo.
Apple's already building a spaceship at the corner of Wolfe and Homestead in Cupertino.
It takes 80 minutes to get from Sac to Oakland. It takes 40 minutes to get from San Jose to Oakland.
Indy (which I think might be the best choice)
Cincy would scream bloody murder about a team in Indy.
Bwaa, haa, haa, haa. Maybe at 2:00am. I went to Berkeley and lived in SF for 4 years whilst sort of attending uni(and passing!)so I know Bay area traffic. Oh, and my folks now live in Auburn(40 minutes north of Sacramento) so I know Sacramento traffic also. No way, never can you make Sacramento to the bay area in 80 minutes in the middle of any working day unless you get the once a year perfect run.
If this basketball-crazy state (though I bet the Pacers wish that held for professional basketball) could support the then-Dolts (a valid Bermanism, if ever there was one) for a decade of miserable performance and didn't exhibit fanbase cratering during the Curtis Painter era (shudder!), it can probably support a MLB team better than might be expected. (Heck, there ain't THAT much to do between planting and harvesting, after all. Cow tipping is only entertaining so many nights in a row....)
The problem with the "move the A's" thing is that there's nowhere to go. As a practical matter, the best available market is . . . the Bay Area. I mean, NY/NJ or the Inland Empire of CA could support another team, but that's never going to happen.
I've always thought that Las Vegas could absolutely support a team with their tourist base
Problem is that the tourist industry - meaning the casino hotels - isn't interested in encouraging the "tourists" to leave the casino. They aren't going to be buying suites or encouraging their guests to step away from the tables for 4 or 5 hours.
Players are so well-compensated that the idea of them throwing a game for a bookie or some goons is neigh-unthinkable.
The big problem with Vegas is there is absolutely nothing around Vegas. Their RSN would pay bupkis to send the feed to Reno and Carson City.
Have an adult-only section with busty cocktail waitresses bringing drinks and the hot dog guy in a Speedo. Make it FUN. Make it unique. Make it baseball Vegas-style.
According to ballparks.com, the Raiders were in Candlestick in 1961. They began in 1960 in Kezar Stadium, which is also in San Francisco, but has since been demolished and rebuilt with a smaller seating capacity.
I do this all the time. There isn't really any traffic going west on 80 past Davis in the afternoons. It's 70 miles of freeway from Sacramento to Richmond BART. BART is 40 minutes to the stadium. All the traffic is between Berkeley and Oakland.
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