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Did someone mention international goalkeeper kits? Jorge Campos, best ever. Ever.
There's some selection bias in there. Fulham, Newcastle, Reading and Wigan have only a handful of English players. About half of QPR, Aston Villa and Sunderland's rosters are foreigners. When you only have 3 English players, odds are they aren't on the national team. There's a chicken and the egg thing at work with most of those teams not being good, but not having English players hasn't hurt Arsenal, Manchester City or Chelsea.
I think we can agree that this is amazing.
For me, the real failure is in talent development.
them having, or not, English players doesn't really matter.
That's the point. If you took some of them and put them on other teams, the teams would still stink (although they would be better), but the players would still be international caliber players. What team they play for is largely irrelevant. They play for the top EPL teams because they are internationals, they are not internationals because they play for those teams. Donovan is a great example: he was a difference maker at Everton. That he plays in a lesser league didn't matter.
I'm glad they don't own my team. The racial stuff is bad enough, but the remarks about girls considering Silvio's history is just gross.
Ugly 90's kits.
Words escape me.
We could just as easily be #35 as #16 in the world.
It's kind of forgotten now, but the Sharks really changed the way sports teams marketed themselves as a fashion brand.
But we'll be watching the NLD which is so mainstream and played out.
When bottom-tier clubs have guys who are that good, they get sold to better clubs.
If you consider Dempsey a wide midfielder, he's probably about level with Milner.
Of course. And that's why what team a player plays for doesn't matter. They're still the same player if they're on Chelsea or if they are on QPR. The top teams in the EPL have the best English players because they're the top teams, they're not the top teams because they have the best English players.
It's an 11 am start so Kinsale's is probably a viable option, too.
Also, just a reminder, the Shooty 2013 World Tour will be at the Football Factory this afternoon for the Honduras-USA fun. It's on W. 33rd street between 5th and 6th avenue.
I'm more interested in Ghost Cat.
Yeah but the point was that the big teams want those players, to a degree they don't want the American ones. They are starting for top teams on merit, and Americans are not able to crack those teams.
Argentina and the Netherlands are better than England (and obviously the US), yet only a handful of Argentinians and Dutch nationals are on EPL teams. Why is that?
Argentina and the Netherlands are better than England (and obviously the US), yet only a handful of Argentinians and Dutch nationals are on EPL teams. Why is that? Why is there only one player on Mexico in the EPL? They are clearly ahead of the US yet the US has more players there.
Everyone gives the US credit for having Michael Bradley as a major contributor on Roma. But he, Dempsey, and Howard are the only Americans contributing to winning clubs in top leagues.
If you look at the Mexican National Team roster, they play almost exclusively in Mexico, with a couple in Spain and Chicharito, of course, with United.
They can ask the Portuguese, Yugoslavs and Ivoriens for advice.
Frequent outages and crap internet put the lie to that.
EDIT: I disagree that England is better. I think they are even. England is overrated because they are England.
James Milner is a good example of how England gets overrated by being England. Milner is a nice player but nothing special. Dempsey is well above him. Dempsey has carried entire teams on his back, Milner hasn't. In 7 World Cup 2010 and Euro 2012 games, he was taken off in 5 off them by the 60th or so minute (in the 31st against the US after beating beaten up and down the field by Cherundolo). That would never happen to Dempsey unless he was hurt.
England are better than us, for true, but they will never beat us in the World Cup. That is a ############# fact.
Come on. That's absurd.
Don't you think that has more to do with the depth of the squad than they ability of the player?
Not sure Joe Hart will E-6 next time we meet up...
"James Milner gets subbed off a lot for England" is perhaps an argument that Milner isn't that great, but it makes no sense as an argument that England aren't that great.
Damn, I thought SPURS THINK FACTORY would be much more complimentary of Dempsey.
It was only an argument that James Milner is overrated.
I think Altidore is much better than Gomez, but I can see the rationale here -- let Gomez do all the running in the heat and humidity, then bring on Altidore when the defense is tired.
But Klinsmann had to find a way to include both Jones and Williams in his midfield. Ugh.
That lineup will require lots of running by Johnson. I hope he's up to it.
Whatever happens tonight, I don't think we should forget that the senior team is only half of the job Klinsmann signed up for. He said he also wanted to revamp the way talent is developed domestically but, obviously, that's harder to judge in the short term.
I'm guessing Bradley will be lined up on the left with Johnson. He probably won't have to run that much. Timmy Chandler on the other hand ....
So is a draw a good result?
I'm not too keen on that Williams/Jones/Bradley midfield, but it's not like the other combinations look appreciably better.
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