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Does anyone have any information on why Jonathan Quick was yanked?
As for Rangers/Penguins, I have no idea what to expect in Game 6. I'm torn between the "The Penguins are collapsing like only they can" line of thought and the "We just saw everything the Rangers had left in Game 5 and now they're spent" line of thought.
But I think it's fair to wish for better leadership from the team's leader.
Thoughts in the aftermath of the Penguins' meltdown in the third period tonight... I have honestly grown weary of Sidney Crosby. His talent and work ethic are absolutely phenomenal, and he is still well underrated around the league (for one, he ought to be a perennial Selke Trophy nominee; for two, he has consistently been the best player on the ice even in these playoffs, and doesn't have to be scoring goals for that to be true).
But his leadership and example are... sigh. When he's uncomfortable he gets frustrated, and when he gets frustrated... well, it's embarrassing enough the way he behaves like a child throwing an extended temper tantrum, but he loses all focus and negates his own spectacular skills. And the team, as teams always do, follows its star's example.
It seems like Crosby has gotten WORSE about this as he's gotten older, where you expect a player to gain some maturity.
I'm not the kind of talk-radio buffoon you'll catch advocating the Penguins trade Crosby away, but I confess to growing disillusioned with him. As the team's unquestioned leader he HAS to grow the hell up. This too I fear is a coaching failure, and possibly it's now too late to correct it. The team has bent to Crosby's whims consistently for years. But then, a superduperstar's team pretty much HAS to bend to his whims. That's why ultimately it's on Crosby to realize he has a problem and grow up and, if necessary, have a spine surgically inserted into his body. ####.
Incidentally, Crosby has more than a little A-Rod in him--he's not a jackass, exactly, and is quite capable of being a nice guy, but he is a weird dude and very socially awkward, probably the result of spending too much of his childhood learning how to be a hockey star and not enough learning how to be a well-adjusted adult.
Final edit: Please understand I don't want this to be in any way construed as blaming the team's failures on him; the "talent" the Penguins have put around Crosby and Malkin is a horrible joke, and without Crosby the team would be in the lottery rather than the playoffs. But I think it's fair to wish for better leadership from the team's leader.
Boston is the best team and has no weaknesses, in my opinion.
household swear jar
so cooke starts next year suspended correct?
I'm ambivalent about Bylsma, but look forward to his firing as the next step toward a regime change. The coach gets fired first, then the GM; that's the way it usually goes.
Probably the allure of coaching Crosby and Malkin will attract experienced coaches, but Pittsburgh is a no-win situation for a coach. If I were someone like Trotz I wouldn't be interested in a Pittsburgh offer except as leverage to jack up my asking price.
if nobody gets fired after what, 4 straight playoffs where they underachieve then ownership is abdicating its responsbility
if they fire the coach maybe the goalie will also finally get the boot.
As someone who picked the Rangers to win this series, I'm not really sure they did underachieve this year. Sure, 109 points but how many do they get anywhere but the Metro?
Step back and look at this from the big picture--it is very rare for one team to have two all-time greats in their primes at the same time. Go back and review the record of the lucky few who have. The Penguins have accomplished little in light of this, and that they consistently lose to lower seeds in the playoffs is a fact.
The Penguins have $55M committed to next year's estimated $71M cap, on only 14 players. I really hope Shero stays.
That .915 is worse than the other goalies in the second round besides Bryz and Quick and is the best he's done in the playoffs since they won the Cup (actually better than that year's .908 and only the 3rd time he's been above .900 in his 8 years). And you can continue to harp on Letang's contract all you want, but Fleury's contract *this year* had a negative impact on the Pens' depth, so yeah, he was part of the problem this year. IOW, he was slightly less of the problem this season than the previous 4 early losses (those sv% going from last year back are .883, .834, .899, .891). So in 8 years, he's been above average once (.933 the year they lost to Det), exactly average once and below average 6 times (in total .905 playoff vs .910 regular season).
The only exceptions are Lundqvist, who seems to consistently post percentages about .005-.010 higher than average, and whoever is goaltending for the Bruins (G Bruins has consistently posted high save percentages basically since the day Chara arrived there.)
If the conclusion (Julien's system noticeably increases save percentage) is reliable then it suggests Julien is the best coach alive and worth however much money he wants.
The Central division is just loaded right now, and is going to be brutal the next few years. Dallas, Minnesota and Colorado ... Hawks and Blues are older ... Preds
Perhaps the best chance is that it has been hot as balls here all week, the ice is bound to be sh!tty the rest of the way. Perhaps that will help equalize the talent somewhat and give the good guys a chance.
Edit: I read STEAGLES' post as a jab at Crosby, which I expect it was because I hang around Flyers fans a lot.
I am pulling for Boston to go down tonight, helps clear the way for the hawks to repeat.
What type of player are you talking about? An undersized one? A offensive playmaker with a less than stellar defensive reputation?
nope. i hate the guy, but he's legitimately great. i just don't see a 2nd guy on the pens who could reasonably be considered an all-time player.
Anyway, Letang isn't going anywhere as he has a no-movement clause.
Technically it doesn't kick in for a few weeks, but there's no chance the Penguins are going to go back on their agreement not to trade him.
So, let's say there was a hypothetical player who had the following accomplishments:
1) Calder Trohpy Winner
2) Hart Trophy Winner
3) Two time Hart Trophy runner up
4) Two time Ross Trophy Winner
5) Conn Smythe award winner
6) Scored better than a point per game in all but season in his career.
7) Career averages of 1.22 PPG in the regular season and 1.16 PPG in the playoffs.
That's not an all-time great to you? You don't think it would be reasonable for anyone to think that player is an all-time great? I highly doubt there are eligible players with those accomplishments who are not in the Hall of Fame, and seeing as how this player is only 27, assuming he doesn't go the full Kovalchuk, he's quite likely to finish with counting stats in the 500 goal, 1,200 point range. You wouldn't consider that player an all-time player? Moreover, you would assume that someone was talking about Chris Letang as the best player on the Penguins not named Sidney?
Is there a separate agreement outside the NMC? I mean, it's not like this sort of stuff doesn't happen. Ask Lubomir Visnovsky. I think the Kings traded him like a day before his clause kicked in.
Malkin has his issues, but he is waaaaaaaaay better than Alexander Mogilny was.
I'm not normally one for caring about "disrespecting the game" with bat flips or whatever, but I do think that Lucic threatening guys in the handshake line is disrespecting hockey.
When asked about what he said to Weise, Lucic explained that the real unsportsmanlike thing to do was talk about it.
“That’s said on the ice so it’ll stay on the ice, so if he wants to be a baby about it, he can make it public,” Lucic said.
Unfortunately for Lucic, Weise did want to be a baby about it, probably because he didn't have any respect for Lucic after Lucic opted not to show him any, but what do I know? Anyway. According to Weise, Lucic told him, "I'm going to [expletive] kill you next year." (Note: Bruce Arthur says Weise didn't officially "tell" him -- he just guessed correctly.)
FWIW, Marchand also finally hit something last night.
Didn't one of the Bruins also squirt Subban with water from the bench during live play?
Subban is probably my least favorite player in hockey but he was a beast this series. The Bruins just didn't have an answer for him at all. By Game Three my heart was in my throat every time he got the puck.
No idea how the Kings won that game last night but I guess I'll take it. It would be fun if they could somehow steal Game 7. I wonder if they would be the first team to survive two three game losing steaks in the playoffs.
Today is a dark day for Flyers, Rangers, and Capitals fans.
Sources told the Tribune-Review the players weren't happy with the length of practices, the number of meetings and a general lack of fun atmosphere around the team this season. Specifically, Crosby and Malkin were not happy with the perceived criticism they received from Bylsma during team meetings.
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