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The Reds currently have a 14-man pitching staff. Has that ever happened? 9 relievers, 5 starters, 8 position players. Leaves a 3-man bench.
On the other hand, his foot wasn't on the bag, so they weren't reviewing the force. This makes two times in the past week that the umpires have reviewed the application of the neighborhood play "rule" and overturned the call in Braves games.
Force/Tag Play Calls. Calls involving a defensive player's attempt to put out a runner or batter-runner by tagging the runner or batter-runner or touching a base, and/or whether or not the runner acquired the base. When reviewing such calls, the Replay Official shall determine that a fielder has caught the ball, consistent with Official Baseball Rule 2.00, at the point in time that the ball touches the fielder's hand or glove (so long as the fielder maintains possession of the ball from the point of contact and thereafter).
Notwithstanding the foregoing, the following calls will not be subject to review:
The Umpire's judgment that a runner is clearly out on a force play at second base under circumstances in which the defensive player may or may not have touched second base in his attempt to complete a double play and avoid a collision with the runner. All other elements of the call shall be subject to review, including whether the fielder caught the ball, had control of the ball, was drawn off the bag, or tagged the runner. In this regard, a determination as to whether the fielder made a catch before dropping the ball while in the act of making a throw following the catch shall be reviewable.
After the game, umpires said that it wasn't the neighborhood play because Simmons was stepping off the base to retrieve an errant throw. It was a dubious explanation.
Manny saves the Orioles the embarrassment of being no hit by a nobody, but they are still getting shut out and dominated by this guy.
That sounds reasonable, not dubious at all. The purpose of the neighborhood play is to protect the players, but it's not to allow for sloppy plays.
harold reynolds said something dumb
Wainwright raised his era from 1.79 to 1.83 with a 12-4 record. I'm assuming he's the All star game starter.
Over Kershaw, whose numbers are just as glowing (or better) and who would be on normal rest?
In response to a stat about Albert Pujols's OPS, Harold Reynolds snickered and said OPS is a new stat. Those old-time players didn't know anything about OPS and if they did they would have done better on OPS. Can you imagine what Ted Williams would have done if he knew about OPS??
silliness like Fip
(It's funny that we like era+ as a stat, and then people point to fip all the time, while not acknowledging that it's NOT PARK ADJUSTED)
Wait a minute. You called me out in the Chris Sale discussion because I didn't mention FIP in my stats-based argument, because in that case it benefited your argument... but now you complain that FIP is silly, because in this argument it doesn't make Wainwright look as good as Kershaw?
I have a real issue with believing Jason Heyward has been more valuable to the Braves than Justin Upton. Does he do more things well than Upton on a baseball field? Yes, that's probably true. But can the Braves win without Upton's power production in the middle of the order? Would they win more games with another strong defender and sub. .400 slugging percentage hitter in the lineup? I think not, but again, I'm open to discussion about it. My first reaction to that kind of conclusion though, is, admittedly, "no way."
But then I look at the top two in baseball (Trout and Tulo) and say, well, I agree with that. I think with me its a bit of a philosophical disagreement with the importance of defense, depending on position. Also, as always, defensive metrics fluctuate.
I don't oppose Fip, I oppose Fip without acknowledging that it doesn't argue for actual events. I oppose Fip when someone points out a pitcher from a known pitchers park, is putting up great numbers while not acknowledging their park factor.
And yet, you didn't mention park factors when you brought up FIP in the Chris Sale discussion. Per Fangraphs, from 2011-2013, Chris Sale's home park averaged a 104 park factor. Over the same time period, Felix Hernandez benefited from a 96 park factor, and Adam Wainwright benefited from a 97.
Basically, you oppose FIP when it hurts your case, but are all for it when it supports your case.
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