The Denver Post had a fun item the other day pointing out that Jamie Moyer is older than every single member of the Rockies' opening day lineup from their first game ever, in 1993, except for Andres Galarraga.

I hope he makes it!

If I'm reading BBRef's leader boards correctly, he'd be the oldest player since 1980, when Minnie Minoso came back for two at bats at the age of 54.

Jamie made his MLB debut the same week Len Bias died. I was in my final days of high school. Last year was my 25th reunion.

If he somehow pulls off three more years at his relatively recent performance level, he's got a shot at 300 wins. Does the BBWAA induct him if that happens?

Jamie made his MLB debut the same week Len Bias died. I was in my final days of high school. Last year was my 25th reunion.

I was eight. I have two kids now.

The Rockies have 13 players on their 40 man roster who were born AFTER Jaime Moyer made his MLB debut.

I was eight [when Moyer made his MLB debut]. I have two kids now.

To be fair, this is probably true of some people and BJ Upton.

If he somehow pulls off three more years at his relatively recent performance level, he's got a shot at 300 wins. Does the BBWAA induct him if that happens?

If he can pitch at his recent performance level up until he's 52, I'd consider voting for him regardless whether he got to 300 wins.

I was eight. I have two kids now.

My mom was one-month pregnant with me.

I graduated from college several years ago.

I was born a few days after Moyer debuted.

So who had Jamie Moyer and Julio Franco in the anti-death pool circa 1988?

Orlando Cabrera just retired. He was 12 when Moyer debuted.

Only six of the 26 MLB ballparks in existence when Jamie Moyer entered the bigs are still in use.

Two members of the Hall of Fame had not yet made their MLB debut when Moyer entered the major leagues. He pitched against a major league batter (Bo Diaz) who died 22 years ago.

Americans had not yet heard of Oliver North, Robert Chambers, Jessica Hahn or Bart Simpson when Moyer first appeared in a big league boxscore. George W. Bush was still a month away from swearing off liquor. Sarah Palin was still in college. Hugh Hefner had just had a stroke and his most recent fiancee had just been born. I wouldn't buy my first CD player for another three years. Lillian Gish was still making movies.

Two members of the Hall of Fame had not yet made their MLB debut when Moyer entered the major leagues. He pitched against a major league batter (Bo Diaz) who died 22 years ago.

I'm not sure that Diaz being bad at installing satellite dishes really says much about Moyer's longevity.

Moyer started his MLB career when the Berlin Wall was still standing and Mandela was still in prison.

I'm not sure that Diaz being bad at installing satellite dishes really says much about Moyer's longevity.

Just the oddity that Moyer may well end his career pitching to guys born after Diaz's lifetime.

I wouldn't buy my first CD player for another three years.

That's pretty ahead of the curve isn't? Must have cost a fortune. I don't remember even seeing a CD player until at least around 1995, I don't think

How old is Jamie Moyer? Tim Wakefield was the oldest player in MLB last year. Moises Alou is older than Tim Wakefield. Greg Maddux and Alou were on the 2004 Cubs. Maddux is older than Alou. Maddux and Luis Polonia were teammates on the only Atlanta Braves championship team. Polonia retired 11 years ago and is older than Maddux. Polonia was a rookie on the 1987 A's, the year Mark McGwire had his historic rookie year. McGwire is older than Polonia. Eris Plunk was also on that team. Plunk retired in 1999 and is older than Mcgwire. Eric Plunk Debuted in 1986. So did Bobby Bonilla. Bonilla is older than Plunk. Bonilla was teammates with Darryl Boston on the 1986 White Sox. Boston is older than Bonilla. Boston Debuted in 1984. Also debuting in 1984 was Dick Schofield, who had nearly 5000 PA and last played regularly in 1992. Schofield is older than Boston. Moyer is older than Schofield.

Dwight Gooden and Bret Saberhagen both won a CYA before Moyer's MLB debut. Moyer is older than both of them.

Jose Rijo won over 100 games, retired, appeared on a HOF ballot (he got 1 vote), then played 2 more years, and got on another HOF ballot. The second one was 5 years ago. Moyer is older than Rijo.

Cecil and Prince Fielder are the only father-son combo to both hit 50 HR. Moyer is older than Cecil.

Jamie Moyer is older than Will Clark, Jose Canseco, Ruben Sierra, Jose Oquendo, Benito Santiago, and Shawon Dunston. He's older than 2 of the 3 most recent BBWAA HOF electees. He's older than World Series winning managers Ozzie Guillen and Joe Girardi. Jamie Moyer is older than me.

That's pretty ahead of the curve isn't? Must have cost a fortune. I don't remember even seeing a CD player until at least around 1995, I don't think

Not really, no. I got my first CD player in 1989 or 1990 and I was hardly on the cutting edge.

Not really, no. I got my first CD player in 1989 or 1990 and I was hardly on the cutting edge.

Yep, me too. Got my first CD player in '89, too, and was one of the last of my friends to do so.

Not really, no. I got my first CD player in 1989 or 1990 and I was hardly on the cutting edge.

Yeah, by late 1989, you could get boomboxes with CD capability for about $100. Entry-level standalone CD players could be had for less than that.

Our family got our first CD player in either 1991 or 1992. I think our first CD was Paul Simon: Concert in the Park. Jamie Moyer debuted in the year I first started collecting baseball cards and it was so long ago that when he actually got good enough for people to start to talk about him he was so far removed from his beginnings that I had no idea he started with the Cubs.

When Jamie Moyer debuted in MLB, Michael Jackson was only on his third nose.

Cecil and Prince Fielder are the only father-son combo to both hit 50 HR. Moyer is older than Cecil.

This is my favorite one.

A total of 39 players younger than Jamie Moyer have tragically passed away, including two who died 18 years ago, and two who were born after Moyer's major league debut debut. Here's the full list:

Ronald Reagan was president.

Bill Buckner hadn't screwed up yet.

There's a thread from a couple years ago where I looked up all the father-son combos he's faced, I think it was in the 30s or 40s. If Ken Griffey Jr's kid played baseball, he'd have a shot at the first 3 generation combo. I think Aaron and Brett Boone's kids would be the next best bet but are about 7 or 8 years too young to make it. He'd also faced 6 or 7 current managers and at least one GM (Kenny Williams).

I think my first cd player was 95 or 96. It was a boombox that let you record cds to tape. My folks had a cd player a few years earlier than that.

David Lee Roth had just left Van Halen when Moyer debuted.

Moyer revived his career at age 34 by going 17-5 in his first full year with the Mariners. That was in 1997. He became the oldest pitcher to win 20 games for the first time at age 38 (since surpassed by Mike Mussina). That was 11 years ago.

When Jamie Moyer debuted for the Chicago Cubs, it had only been a scant 78 years since the Cubs' last World Series win.

In his debut, Moyer beat Steve Carlton, who debuted in 1965. The first hitter Moyer faced who didn't reach base was Mike Schmidt. Lee Smith got his 122nd career save in that game, which put him around #30 on the all-time list. 122 saves wouldn't be in the top 100 now.

Moyer is three months older than Michael Jordan.

When Jamie Moyer debuted, I had an onion tied to my belt, as was the fashion at the time.

The 1986 Mets went 107-52 when they didn't have to face Jamie Moyer.

And to think Steve Carlton was only 41 years old when he faced Moyer that day. I wouldn't be surprised if Moyer's goal is not just to get to 300, but also to pass Carlton in career wins.

Some other fun facts from Moyer's debut:
-At that time Nolan Ryan was the only pitcher with 4,000 strikeouts. Carlton had 3,974 going into the game. Roger Clemens had 304 going into that day. Randy Johnson was still toiling in class A West Palm Beach.
-In that game Moyer hit both Juan Samuel and John Russell with pitches. Both of them were managers when Moyer made his last appearance thus far on July 20, 2010.
-Moyer is older now than both of the managers in his debut game were at the time. Phillies manager John Felske was just 44. Cubs manager Gene Michael had recently turned 48.
-There were two players in that game younger than Moyer: Dave Martinez and Shawon Dunston. They last played in 2001 and 2002 respectively.

-The three top grossing films in the weekend that preceded the game were: Back to School (starring Rodney Dangerfield), Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and Top Gun. (It blows my mind that Back to School grossed more than Ferris Bueller!)
-The #1 song on the Billboard 100 was Patti LaBelle's "On My Own."
-The Garfield comic from that day: http://www.garfield.com/comics/vault.html?yr=1986&addr=860616

Longtime reader, I registered just to point this out:

One event that impressed itself on my teenage memory is Anatoly Karpov and Garry Kasparov squaring off twice, in 1984 and 1985, for the world chess championship. Karpov represented the Soviet establishment, Kasparov the brash young challenger.

And, you guessed it, Jamie Moyer is older than Garry Kasparov.

In his MLB debut, Jamie Moyer pitched against Steve Carlton in 1986.
Steve Carlton made his major league debut in 1965. He pitched against Jim Gilliam that year.
Jim Gilliam made his major league debut in 1953. He batted against Dutch Leonard that year.
Dutch Leonard made his major league debut in 1933. He pitched against Frankie Frisch that year.
Frankie Frisch made his major league debut in 1919. He batted against Babe Adams that year.
Babe Adams made his major league debut in 1906.

This thread has made me realize that a lot of people are younger than I would have guessed (Cecil Fielder is only 48? Ozzie Guillen is only 47?), but it hasn't really made me realize that Moyer is any older than I already knew.

I wonder if this is one of those deals that allows him to become a free agent if he's not on the active roster in May or something.

The Rockies have a lot of young pitchers who will be competing for a couple spots after the incumbents and guys returning from injuries:

Chacin
Hammel
De La Rosa (back in May from TJ?)
Nicasio (he's been pitching to batters behind an L screen)
Pomerantz
Chatwood
Moscoso
Outman
White
Rogers

Babe Adams made his major league debut in 1906.

On the same day as the great San Francisco earthquake of 1906! Among the players Adams faced that fateful day was Jimmy Sheckard, who made his major league debut in 1897. So we went from 1897 to possibly 2012 in only seven players!

Nolan Ryan pitched 27 seasons, the most of all time. If Moyer makes it, it'll be his 25th season. He missed all of last year and spent all of 1992 in the minors. So the span of time between beginning and end would be equal to Nolan Ryan. So really long, but not completely unprecedented, although Ryan did debut a few years younger than Moyer did.

If he somehow pulls off three more years at his relatively recent performance level, he's got a shot at 300 wins. Does the BBWAA induct him if that happens?

They'd love the story, and while he's had a better career than Jack Morris I don't quite see it; not without one excellent postseason game. (A weird distinction, isn't it?) He did have 14 years where he averaged better than 14 wins a season. That's pretty darned good. He went 199-119 with an ERA+ of 109 during that time. He had a 7 year, 126-56 peak, with an ERA+ of 121, and won 20 games twice in that span. Oh, and 16 complete games in those seven years. That's really... not good.

I'd love to see it, but could he have picked a worse place to go than Colorado?

What young player who has batted/pitched against Moyer will be the link from him to 2026?

Cameron Maybin?
Carlos Santana?
Kris Medlen?
Josh Johnson?
Manny Parra?
Chris Coghlan?
Michael Bourn?
Dexter Fowler?
Justin Upton?

Not really, no. I got my first CD player in 1989 or 1990 and I was hardly on the cutting edge.

Interesting. I stand corrected, obviously.

All I know is I bought No Doubt's Tragic Kingdom on cassette a few months after it came out, which would have been 1996. I don't recall knowing anyone who owned a CD player at that time. Although, the fact that I was 9 years old probably has something to do with that. A hundred bucks is a lot of money when you're nine :)

I like the idea of Moyer as the new Iron Man. Joe McGinnity pitched 206 innings (in D ball) at 52. After his major league career ended in 1908 McGinnity pitched through the 1925 season.

Reasonably successful too. And still handled heavy workloads. Over 400 innings in the minors 3 times (that's after 1908), over 300 innings another 3 times.

EDIT: 207 wins in the minors after his major league career was over.

I got my first CD player (Technics) in 84 or 85. I got my first (maybe the first) CD changer (Pioneer) about a year after that. CD boombox probably no later than 1990. Can't remember when my first portable CD player was.

The point being I had a CD player before Moyer debuted and I never got suckered into the minidisk.

When Moyer debuted, the average MLB salary was $413,000. His teammate Dennis Eckersley was still a starting pitcher.

Edd Roush from the 1919 World Series -- as well as the Federal League -- was still alive. As was Joe Oeschger, who pitched 26 innings in a 1920 game. As was Erv Kantlehner, a teammate of Honus Wagner's.

A Chorus Line was the longest-running musical in Broadway history (it's now 5th on the list). ALF hadn't gone on the air yet. Burger King customers were still on the lookout for Herb.

Burger King customers were still on the lookout for Herb.

The Noid was still Pizza Enemy Number One. Bill Cosby had not yet released his masterpiece, Leonard Part Six.

My fave Jamie Moyer Fun Fact: Moyer debuted in pro ball with the 1984 Geneva Cubs of the NY-Penn League. The only other member of the Geneva Cubs to make the majors was Laddie Renfroe...who retired twenty years ago. (Oh, and Geneva hasn't had a pro baseball team in eighteen years.)

Babe Adams made his major league debut in 1906.

On the same day as the great San Francisco earthquake of 1906!

Which was caused by the San Andreas fault. The San Andreas fault formed about 30 million years ago.

When Moyer debuted, the average MLB salary was $413,000.

The MLB minimum next year is $410,000.

-The three top grossing films in the weekend that preceded the game were: Back to School (starring Rodney Dangerfield), Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and Top Gun. (It blows my mind that Back to School grossed more than Ferris Bueller!)

I just saw the Biography "Behind the Scenes" of Bueller. I guess it got panned by a lot of critics at the time and Matthew Broderick was still relatively unknown so the box office draw was smallish, but steady.

People that were still alive when Jaime Moyer debuted:

Desi Arnez
Benny Goodman
Len Bias
Cary Grant
Bill Veeck
Fred Astaire
Jackie Gleason
Rita Hayworth
Danny Kaye
Liberace
Carl Hubbell
Lucille Ball
Irving Berlin
A. Bartlett Giamatti
Art Blakey
Roald Dahl
Greta Garbo
Ava Gardner

The first CD I ever bought/received as a gift as Urge Overkill's "Saturation" around 1994 or so.

I bought my first cd in 1991 (I was 14) and when I did a three-month student exchange in British-Columbia in 1992 (the first year the Blue Jays won it all!), I brought with me my seven cds and my parents' SONY discman.