“Today’s day and age has gotten so crazy. Shoot man, Obama wants to take our guns from us and everything. You got all this stuff going on; it’s just a little bit insane for me, man. I’m not sure how to take it.”
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‹ First < 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 > Last ›I'm reminded of a conversation I heard in a diner in Great Neck, LI in 2004. One guy says to the other, playing devil's advocate: "But Bush is good on Israel." The other guy groans and says "Listen, ALL Presidents are good on Israel. Think of what else you know about Bush."
On what basis, other than the racial- and ethnic-solidarity stuff that liberals allegedly hate so much, would or should Puerto Ricans — who are U.S. citizens at birth — have immigration concerns, let alone immigration complaints?
This is silly. Like a lot of the self-appointed immigration experts in the media, the Puerto Rican guy Andy has been talking about is whiter than I am.
Of course not all of Aguilar's relatives, friends and radio listeners are necessarily Puerto Ricans who look "whiter than" Joe Kehoskie. A few of them might feel a certain amount of personal stake in immigration reform.
But then your whole line of reasoning assumes that as long as you personally don't have any problems with the INS, you shouldn't concern yourself with the problems of anyone else who might not be quite as fortunate. Right now apparently Aguilar is some sort of traitor to his pigment in your eyes, and at some point I'm sure you'll be accusing half the Republican Party of being RINOs. That wagon circle of yours just keeps getting smaller and smaller, but at least you know that inside that circle it's as pure as Ivory soap. And as a Democrat, I wholeheartedly approve your message.
Joe "202 > 336" Kehoskie, Polls Unskewed While-U-Wait. Puerto Ricans and other white folks welcome.
For all of my pot smoking years, $5 was the average you would pay for a single joint of average quality.
I'm not sure how well the gas station pack of joints will work out at first. I remember paying anywhere from $25 to $75 for 3 grams of pot, depends largely on quality and some on scarcity. So are convenient stores going to be carrying 20+ different quality grades of pot? Maybe after the market gets established and settles down, but not at first. At first, the "coffee shops" will likely retail more pot than 7-11.
I'm not sure how much or if I would ever buy mj again. I smoked enough in HS/college and it really doesn't appeal to me anymore (nor my wife). I suppose if it had been an especially aggravating day or something I could see picking up a little instead of a 6-pack.
Absolutely. It's just not really evidence for (or against) the notion that he has a surging groundswell of support at this junction, as something other suggested.
I overquoted a little - quoted something other *and* what he was quoting. He was arguing that the rise in the polls to the low 50s indicates significant support for Obama's position in the current debt arguing. I'm arguing that using the rise in the polls to the lows 50s can hardly tell us any such thing - it's hard to claim that a below-average post-election approval is evidence *for* that. Sure, maybe he'd be at 49 instead of 53 if not for the debt debate or something, but what something other used is certainly not evidence to that effect.
And that's ignoring that I doubt even 10% of the public could actually describe what the fiscal cliff means or specifically the tax issues at stake.
Population density is another issue. and also at the core of the entire gun control problem in the US, because the US is a very diverse country and what works in Montana (a very homengeous and rural place) would be devastating in say.. Los Angelos (extremely urban, diverse and complex place).
I'm not optimistic (there are prison cells to fill, after all), but I hope as they write the legislation they don't look for every opportunity to criminalize everything they can.
I can see that. $5 to mellow as we head towards the bars. If I wanted to get a nice buzz on for the bulk of an evening, I'm spending ten bucks. If for some reason I wanted to get wildly wasted, that's a twenty. Certainly not on the dear side, particularly as compared to alcohol, unless we're drinking Miller Lite. Seems perfectly reasonable. I'm guessing the production cost can't be more than $1 a joint once the big farms are up and running.
If an ounce gets you 50 joints, you're smoking 2 to 4 joints a week. Sounds solidly recreational. It wouldn't surprise me if 1 in 5 people in their 20s would be smoking at this rate. 1 in 3 in college.
@1296: So, you're saying Something Other is Ariel Edwards-Levy is Nate Silver?
Mom know you're posting?
It did answer the question: Because they're liberals. Just looking at two key issues, Jewish people tend to be pro-choice and — hard as it is to believe — anti-gun. That they tend to vote for Dems should surprise no one.
What this thread really needs is some sort of a Kehoskie Guide to why everyone votes the way they do, broken down by age, income, education level, skin color, "race", ethnicity, the demography of his precinct, gender, sexual preference, religion, gun ownership, and maybe even preferences for different types of sports.
It'd also be nice to know in advance which people (like fair skinned Puerto Ricans) can be safely ignored, and which groups (like uneducated religious white men over 65) are crucial to assembling a future winning coalition. I hate having to read the actual literature in such matters, when it'd be so much nicer to be able to rely on the wisdom of One True Opinion like Joe's.
Has a political party ever been as thoroughly intellectually irrelevant as the GOP in this millenia?
A few unfunny pop-culture "jokes" I'm hoping to outlive:
* Terrible Spanish. It's funny because it's terrible Spanish!
* Sex involving fat or old people treated as automatically funny.
* Prison rape. Ha ha ha.
You'd figure that the Mexican border would have something to do with that though.
Unless your referring to Tennessee or Kentucky like States.
I don't know that I agree with that, at least as it pertains to guns. Low density states in the South don't seem terribly overrepresented in per capita gun related homicides. The spikes come from knifes and other weapons. Its actually kind of interesting considering these are the states where ownership of guns is presumably at its highest. It probably speaks more to poverty than anything. The Southern states don't have as many "poor" areas as the high density states, but because Southern states tend to be poorer in general those areas suffer even more. I'd be surprised if, for instance, the homicide rate of the Arkansas delta isn't higher than the rate in the slums of major urban areas.
Interesting. You have more knowledge of this than I do. I knew the overall homicide rate--death and divorce is what we are good at down South--but not the breakdown by type of weapon. That is very intriguing.
But the South was always violent even when it was the richest region of the country. The poorest non-Southern state is New Mexico which does have a very high homicide rate but after that is Idaho and Montana, which have very low ones.
People often talk about the impact of slavery which normalized intimate violence, and that's got to be part of it, but the mountainous parts of Tennessee and Kentucky and North Carolina, where there were very few slaves, are often the most violent. East Tennessee is a particular anomaly to criminologists I know. There aren't that many parts of the developed world where people consistently kill other people they know but aren't married to or in the drug trade with or against.
The other interesting thing about American murder rates is that the two big spots are the South and the sites of the Southern migration. And this goes beyond black Southerners moving to northern cities. White Southerners are much harder to keep track of when they move north, but plenty of people believed the parts of Chicago and Detroit settled by white Southerners were shockingly violent. I suppose it is at some level proof of the power of timocracy, the honor culture, that normalizes the notion that the people you know and who see you are the ones who are the treats to your reputation.
What about this one? Anything?
It's not that hard. I get by.
Very good take, I think we can reach the conclusion that guns aren't the single key factor on violence and each region have a great deal of mixture that make up for it's outcome. there are some region in the US with very limited gun control that does well (Montana for example) and vice versa, and almost every mix in between.
Tennesse would seem to be a significant anomoly in terms of usual factor you'd think would correlate strongely with violence though.
No shelter, running water, heat, or food?
She's completely out of her mind if she thinks any recent immigrant in America comes anywhere close to real, third-world poverty.
From the LA Times:
This isn't (shouldn't be?) an ideological issue, though. Hopefully we can just agree that removing lead from communities is both necessary and something that government can help do.
I suppose I should know people are like this, but it's such a foreign idea to me, I can't see it unless I'm beaten about the face with it. I rarely have any idea how I'm going to vote until I see a debate, and typically haven't totally decided until I'm staring at a ballot. I'm sure Joe knows who he's going to vote for in 2044. It's just ... I don't get it.
I'd pay $5 for a joint, for occasional enjoyment. I get excellent quality stuff for $125/oz though, pretty much year round, although it can get up to $200 in the late spring/early summer some years (its all outdoor grown). I've known my dealer for almost 20 years. I never started smoking until I was 27, and had never bought any until I met my wife at 30. She's got a lot of chronic stomach problems, and its the only thing that helps. Between the two of use we'd go through 3 or 4 ounces a year, maybe 6 joints a week. I don't smoke every day, probably 5 evenings a week on average. I wouldn't do it before supper more than 2-3 times a year.
As for drug laws, Canada is going backwards. Despite protestations from a law enforcement group in Texas of all places, and the guy who actually wrote up the US federal minimum sentence laws for drug offences, Heil Harper passed legislation last year that calls for an automatic prison sentence for anyone convicted of having 6 or more plants for the purposes of trafficking. Which of course, as we know, means 6 or more plants, period.
Some other interesting questions about a legalized schema --
1) 1305's question about variety-- both CO and WA laws seem tilted towards private licensing to sell and buy, which I'm sure means the standard, ever-growing menu of strains... that stuff drives me nuts - the few times I've been offered choices, I just find it annoying... HTF should I know? If a nationally legalized system with government-run stores were to come to pass, I'd have to imagine it would be limited to either one strain or no more than a handful... i think I'd almost prefer that.
2) What about the seed/stem ratio? I would assume most folks are used to purchasing now in a manner that means your oz or whatever is somewhat 'light' because you're inevitably getting a measurable portion of that weight from material that's not smokeable (at least, not in terms of delivering the intended effect)... I would think another advantage of government-run dispensaries is that the stringent manner in which weight and portions are calculated would mean you'd actually get a real ounce -- not 1/6 seed/stem waste. I think that would be another factor in making purchases less frequent than the current elicit market.
...FWIW, just on a whim - was trading some e-mails last night with a college friend who's one those 'hemp solves everything, maaaannnnn' type stoners (he's actually an attorney and was very involved in the WA legalization campaign as well) and he was telling me that the only real change that needs to happen at the federal level for the CO and WA initiatives to be non-federal issues is for the Feds to remove marijuana from the Schedule I list. He claims the legal push - should/when these laws eventually end up in court - will be to either have marijuana pushed down to IV or V, or, removed completely. What's more - supposedly, this doesn't even require federal legislation -- the Controlled Substances Act actually doesn't mention any drugs by name, it simply sets up the system of classification and the DOJ/DEA/FDA is charged with slotting substances across those schedules.
Hence, unwinding the issue is a regulatory, not statutory matter... don't know how true all that is -- this guy has always been a little... off... let's say, but it was an interesting discussion.
EDIT: Heh... like I said, he's always been a little 'off' -- just looked up the statute and he's wrong.. cannabis is specifically mentioned ;-)
The drug war has never had anything to do with facts or common sense, so I don't think relying on either of those things to force the DEAs hand is going to work.
your friend has a point.
the feds from an enforcement perspective are in a bit of a spot. they want to honor the states laws but when there is a direct conflict like this the constitutional folks will advise the president and others that not taking acting is a bad precedent because it undermines the feds position as the final say. so right now the feds are sending various entities 'reminders' on how marijuana is on the feds 'bad' list and anyone supporting businesses engaging in this 'bad' activity are subject to federal prosecution. so you have banks, credit unions and the credit card companies all skittish because while federal investigators have their flaws tracking the money is not one of them.
so the feds are enforcing by proxy versus knocking down doors which takes resources which they believe (quite reasonably) are better used elsewhere
becuase if you force everyone to be a cash business that's a real hassle
There are always going to be stems, however, seeds? If you are buying stuff with seeds, you are buying #### weed. I literally haven't seen a seed in years and years, and up until a few months ago(when I started looking for a new job) I smoked pretty much every day.
Yes, but it's also one way to prevent open marketing on a wide scale basis. To me the only "correct" way to deal with marijuana is to totally decriminalize it while placing a 100% ban on any form of branding and / or advertising. Keep it local and homegrown, but keep the profit out of it, and you'll be less likely to wind up with the sort of problem that nobody outside the quote entrepreneurs unquote really wants to see.
I hear their kazoo corps does a tear-prompting rendition of "America the Beautiful".
Which is how the Dutch handle it, to a large extent. I am not sure about the local part (but it's not that big a country, so it's "local" by our standards), but there is no branding. Common street names are used at shops to describe different strains, but there is no Acme Brand Giggle Smoke, and no formal packaging - definitely no advertising. Just a small tube or a plastic bag.
Now THAT's a username.
Say, hypothetically, that I'm a liberal, and it is my life's dream to live in a walled, mountain town. Is there any legal way the Conservative founders of this place could keep me from moving to the Citadel?
Also, ... Do they mean "as written" as before any amendments were added? After the Bill of Rights? Will it be legal for women to vote?
I could be wrong, though; what do I know about international law. There could be numerous technicalities to get around the Convention; the Dutch must do it somehow.
I'm not an economist, but when someone says "there's nothing that's obviously problematic about it" I feel that someone can in fact easily find something problematic about it.
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