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1. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:00 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I thought this might be some kind of divisional feud with Pablo Sandoval but this is actually better.

2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:02 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Well, the Padres biggest problem last year was not enough runs....

3. birdlives is one crazy ninja posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'm in deep sh#t.

4. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

For shame, Cameron Maybin. Tony Gwynn's loyalty to Big Macs knew no bounds when the Krocs owned the team, and also for the rest of his career.

5. SoSH U at work posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The hilarity in this case is primarily theoretical.

6. robinred

posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:10 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

This is pretty cool, but I would still rather have AGon.

7. Gold Star - just Gold Star posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:11 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Panda Express is among the Top 5 of my food-related guilty pleasures.
So bad for you, yet so good.

8. DCA posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:20 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I like Panda Express. Mainly because it's one of the few fast food Chinese places where you can get a big plate of vegetables instead of rice or fried rice or chow mein. Never gotten sick there.

9. Greg (U)K posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:33 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Fast food Chinese always seemed a weird concept to me. Don't most places in any Chinatown slosh out the stuff pretty quickly?

Besides, I only feel comfortable eating at a Chinese place if the hand-written menu placards are stuck to the wall with grease and there are cartons of seafood and whole pigs strewn randomly about the establishment.

Fast food Chinese seems too clean.

10. OldTimeFamilyBaseball posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:36 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Maybe it was a constant case of the Panda Express-induced squirts that lead to Maybin's unwillingness to take any pitches?

11. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:37 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Don't most places in any Chinatown slosh out the stuff pretty quickly?

How many Chinese people do you think live in Florida?

12. Greg (U)K posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:45 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

How many Chinese people do you think live in Florida?

I'd have to think that if you want to find a Chinese place, almost anywhere in the world, you can.

I lived in Regina, Saskatchewan for six years, am lazy, and don't drive...and I always had at least a few different options for mom and pop Chinese places.

13. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'd have to think that if you want to find a Chinese place, almost anywhere in the world, you can.

Chinese food? Sure. But made by actual Chinese people on-site from scratch? That's a lot less common.

14. Swedish Chef posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:52 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Twitter is a great tool, not only can it bring down authoritarian regimes, we can also get realtime reports on the consistency of our favorite athletes' feces.

15. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) posted on February 16, 2011 at 12:02 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

So this is what happened to Maybin's star potential.

16. bobm posted on February 16, 2011 at 12:23 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

[11],[12]

At least 401 Chinese restaurants in South Florida:

http://southflorida.menupages.com/restaurants/all-areas/all-neighborhoods/chinese/

17. Mr. Furious posted on February 16, 2011 at 12:35 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Panda Express is the one restaurant that's always open on the Duke campus over breaks - it's open when even the McDonald's is closed.

18. Dale Sams posted on February 16, 2011 at 12:41 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

It ain't no Chang's, thass fer sure.

19. Shock posted on February 16, 2011 at 12:47 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Never eat panda express shits

As a Canadian, I don't have a clue what this means. And I don't want to.

20. birdlives is one crazy ninja posted on February 16, 2011 at 01:00 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Panda Express: Stuff that white people like that Chinese people hate.

21. YR Misses Reggie Bars posted on February 16, 2011 at 01:10 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

This is Goose Gossage redux; anyone remember him accusing Ray Kroc of poisoning the country with his hamburgers when Goose was a Padre?

22. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on February 16, 2011 at 01:10 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Panda Express: Stuff that white people like that Chinese people hate.

Isn't that all "Chinese" food sold in America?

23. Shock posted on February 16, 2011 at 01:14 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Isn't that all "Chinese" food sold in America?

I have a few Chinese friends who work in Chinese Restaurants and I don't think it's really that they 'hate' it so much as they see it as their form of McDonald's. As I understand.

24. birdlives is one crazy ninja posted on February 16, 2011 at 01:21 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Isn't that all "Chinese" food sold in America?

There are plenty of authentic Chinese restaurants in the Southern CA area. I personally find the authentic stuff entirely too salty for my taste. I actually like the Americanized, Chinese food better like PF Chang's and Panda Express.

25. asdf1234 posted on February 16, 2011 at 01:37 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

This is Goose Gossage redux; anyone remember him accusing Ray Kroc of poisoning the country with his hamburgers when Goose was a Padre?

Even worse, he accused his employers of poisoning the world. At least Panda Express primarily sticks to poisoning those of us out west.

http://www.lewisgrizzard.com/columns/archive/McDonaldsAreYouListening.html

26. Steve Treder posted on February 16, 2011 at 01:37 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

There are plenty of authentic Chinese restaurants in the Southern CA area.

As there apparently are in the SF Bay Area as well. I remember the first time I went to China, and was surprised to find the food was pretty much just like the food I'd eaten at any number of Mom & Pop Chinese restaurants all my life (not the chain places). I'd expected it to be different somehow, but it was just about exactly the same stuff, both in choice and preparation and quality.

27. Der_K posted on February 16, 2011 at 01:41 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

i had a roommate from china, one year removed. he could only eat the blandest, most generic chinese stuff - anything in between that and what he himself prepared made him ill. it was the strangest thing...

28. birdlives is one crazy ninja posted on February 16, 2011 at 01:41 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

As there apparently are in the SF Bay Area as well.

I should probably say that there are authentic Chinese restaurants in any large metro area particularly near the coasts. I'm from NoVA/DC and there is plenty of over-salted Chinese food there as well.

29. flournoy posted on February 16, 2011 at 01:58 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I have a Chinese friend who himself is originally from China and eats real Chinese food every day. He likes the Americanized stuff too, though.

I realize that I'm working from a sample size of 1 here, but it's certainly not my impression that Chinese people hate the Chinese food sold here.

30. John DiFool2 posted on February 16, 2011 at 01:58 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Moe's has been a personal favorite of mine-until I caught a bad cold from their salsa bar 2 days ago. Guess I'll only be eating there early in the morning, before all the walking virusbags sneeze and hack their spew into the salsa containers.

31. Smitty* posted on February 16, 2011 at 02:16 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Never say no to Panda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hElms3Jk1Ls

Oh, and don't you hate pants?

32. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance posted on February 16, 2011 at 02:30 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Oh, and don't you hate pants?

How dare you! HOW. DARE. YOU!

33. Smitty* posted on February 16, 2011 at 02:33 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

How dare you! HOW. DARE. YOU!

Sir, I could ask you the same.

Oh, and don't you hate pants?

34. BarrettsHiddenBall posted on February 16, 2011 at 02:39 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Can anyone explain why east coast USA chinese joints offer beef teriyaki and peking ravioli, while west coast joints offer pot stickers and no beef teriyaki?

35. Gold Star - just Gold Star posted on February 16, 2011 at 02:49 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

"Yep, it's made with bits of real panda, so you know it's good."

36. Bhaakon posted on February 16, 2011 at 02:58 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Can anyone explain why east coast USA chinese joints offer beef teriyaki and peking ravioli, while west coast joints offer pot stickers and no beef teriyaki?

Because teriyaki is Japanese, and Chinese immigrants reached on the west coast before Italians.

37. Der_K posted on February 16, 2011 at 03:05 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Can anyone explain why east coast USA chinese joints offer beef teriyaki and peking ravioli, while west coast joints offer pot stickers and no beef teriyaki?
i have no idea what you're talking about (speaking as an east coaster who's never even heard the term 'peking ravioli' or seen teriyaki at a chinese place) - is that a ne thing?

38. Gold Star - just Gold Star posted on February 16, 2011 at 03:17 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Those Panda Cheese commercials are a stitch.

39. Weekly Journalist_ posted on February 16, 2011 at 03:22 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Peking ravioli is a new england term for dumplings. I only ever saw it in menus in Boston. Also general Tso is general gau there.
I consider myself a sophisticated diner, and have really come to embrace regional authentic Chinese food in the past five years. That being said, nothing kicks the ass of a hangover like general tso, pork fried rice, and a couple egg rolls with extra duck sauce. Total guilty pleasure.

40. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) posted on February 16, 2011 at 03:29 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Also general Tso is general gau there.

I think the real Romanization of his name is actually closer to Zuo.

He's a pretty interesting dude.

41. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) posted on February 16, 2011 at 03:30 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

How many Chinese people do you think live in Florida?

Chinese in South Florida story: During the summer of 2006, a few friends and I took a trip to Miami. One evening, we decided to call in Chinese food. So, we searched and searched for delivery, and the only Chinese we could get was from the "China Farmhouse." It was about as good as one might have expected, given the name.

42. puck posted on February 16, 2011 at 03:36 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Also general Tso is general gau there.

General Gau, you were a bloodthirsty foe, but your chicken is delectable!

43. Tripon posted on February 16, 2011 at 03:42 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Pei Wei is the best thing ever.

Also, since Maybin plays for the Padres, I assume he can find decent Chinese in San Diego.

BTW, Yes, there is a secret menu for Chinese people, and a regular menu for whitey.

44. Der_K posted on February 16, 2011 at 03:47 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

BTW, Yes, there is a secret menu for Chinese people, and a regular menu for whitey.
At Pei Wei? (PF Chang lite, for the unfamiliar)

45. Srul Itza posted on February 16, 2011 at 03:48 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

There are plenty of authentic Chinese restaurants in the Southern CA area.

As there apparently are in the SF Bay Area as well.

And in New York.

And in Honolulu.

46. Tripon posted on February 16, 2011 at 04:08 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

At Pei Wei? (PF Chang lite, for the unfamiliar)

I meant in the Americanized mom and pop Chinese places that you can find in any big city. There's no set menu, just that people in the know will order a general array of dishes that the restaurants owners don't think Americans(Read: White people) will like. Stuff like Offal, certain seafood, etc. Also, not soaked in a gooey sauce.

47. Der Komminsk-sar posted on February 16, 2011 at 04:14 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

oh, sure. i was confused - pei wei is fine, but they're megacorporate.
i've got to admit, i'm generally wary of secret menu food from asian places, in a way i'm not with other cuisines.

48. StillFlash posted on February 16, 2011 at 04:24 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

The only Chinese people I ever see in my Pa town work in the restaurants. There's one buffet we like to go to, always a good crowd. A couple weeks ago while I was browsing the buffet I was talking to the guy who runs the cash register and the Mongolian grill - looks 30-ish, likely a manager. He admitted the served Americanized Chinese food, but I'm rather sure they do all the cooking on site as I've seen the same guy at the nearby WalMart buying mass quantities of meat and produce.

49. Andere Richtingen

posted on February 16, 2011 at 04:25 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

There's actually a very good, very authentic mom and pop (literally) Chinese place here in my little burg, in the mall. When people walk in, the proprietor can be heard telling would-be customers, "Authentic Chinese food! No fried rice! No General Tsao Chicken!" Every so often I like to mess with him and tell him I want the orange chicken.

I love that place. They do a spicy pork belly and tofu thing that makes me want to cry.

50. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance posted on February 16, 2011 at 04:41 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I cry anytime somebody tries to make me eat tofu too...

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