terrible doesn't do gomes attempt to play defense justice

imagine a moose struck by a tranquilizer dart and as it begins to stagger this way and that with occasional bursts of effort imagine that trying to catch a fly ball

the drugged moose is better than gomes

I think Dan is right in #50. It will be Nava with the hope that Kalish beats him out. The more I think about this, I think it just came down to Ross, the character/limited fielder/left masher, got too expensive so they found another dude who fit that role. The other possibility is that they believe that Gomes's new, never swing approach has made him a significantly different hitter from what he was in the past.

imagine a moose struck by a tranquilizer dart and as it begins to stagger this way and that with occasional bursts of effort imagine that trying to catch a fly ball

So a small upgrade on Ross.

The more I think about this, I think it just came down to Ross, the character/limited fielder/left masher, got too expensive so they found another dude who fit that role.

This.

(Also, Susan Slusser twittered that the Red Sox targeted Gomes as a clubhouse leader. I guess that could be good, and the clubhouse has been a problem, but this team needs wins and runs first.)

Gomes is generally considered one of the bigger pieces of #### in baseball, so I have no idea why he's considered a clubhouse signing.

Gomes is generally considered one of the bigger pieces of #### in baseball, so I have no idea why he's considered a clubhouse signing.

You seem unfamiliar with the Boston clubhouse.

Gomes is generally considered one of the bigger pieces of #### in baseball, so I have no idea why he's considered a clubhouse signing.

What do you base this on? I don't know much about Gomes other than what I've read this week but it seems like be is very well thought of.

What do you base this on?

From his name, I'm assuming he's a Cardinals fan.

Cardinal fans may have a less favorable view of Gomes than most others.

At the end of the day, how does signing Gomes for any amount of money increase the number of games that the Sox will win in 2013?
Somebody correctly said "Meh" a while back; I completely agree.
He'll hit a couple of clutch, maybe even game winning hits during the year.
He'll also boot/misplay enough balls to cost the Sox a couple of games during the year.
Why not give a semi-known 20-something those 300+ ABs during the year and perhaps get some upside versus wasting $5M and those semi-proficient ABs on a known quasicontributor

Bidding war for Jonny Gomes in November, who had that one? Not me. Kudos to Cherry for showing every other GM how to spend money unnecessarily. Of course he had a good teacher

Gomes was also the second most physical member in the Cardinals-Reds brawl. Maybe he's just a huge piece of #### to the Cardinals?

Still I don't see how Gomes is possible considered a chemistry signing.

Actual Johnny Gomes quote:

“If you don’t want to get kicked, don’t be within kicking distance”

Still I don't see how Gomes is possible considered a chemistry signing.

Chemistry is often explosive and smells bad.

Joking aside, what he does against the other team doesn't really count against being a good clubhouse
guy.

That's a good point.

Gomes also beat the #### out of Coco Crisp during the Rays-Red Sox brawl in 2007 or 2008. Being willing to fight for your teammates doesn't seem like a bad thing for relationships in your own clubhouse though, even if it makes you unpopular among your opponents and their fans.

Another thing about this signing that people haven't mentioned: it gives the Red Sox a backup at DH for when/if Ortiz has his annual 2-3 weeks off due to injury. Last year he missed signficantly more time than that and the Red Sox were using Pedro Ciriaco to start at DH against left-handed pitching. Gomes gives them another guy with significant DH experience who has shown he is able to succeed as a DH. The 2012 Red Sox got 3 home runs in exactly 300 PA of non-Ortiz DH play.

I'm reasonably sure that Dan has me on Ignore.

Another thing about this signing that people haven't mentioned: it gives the Red Sox a backup at DH for when/if Ortiz has his annual 2-3 weeks off due to injury.

#45 in this thread:

Two weeks while Ortiz gets a midseason rest is more acceptable than two months.