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If pitchers are in fact getting hurt more frequently now, I'd look for a cause to the changes in the game where pitchers are now simply asked to go as hard as they can for as long (short) as they can, and when they break, they get the surgery and teams pluck another pitcher off the assembly line in the meantime. This is particularly true for relievers
1. Are pitchers actually getting hurt more frequently today?
2. Did something change in the diagnosis of elbow injuries or in the haste in which TJ surgery is recommended? (Since the surgery is so successful it seems that teams/pitchers would hesitate less to get it or would get it even with a more mild "tear" or what not that pitchers of past eras would simply pitch through.)
Or did Cox and Mazzone have a program?
The first two have the best stats, but lots to learn from the other articles including.... looks like someone should be able to get more data here given what is available.
Studies of pre-professional athletes have measured torque forces and have found that fastballs put more torque on the ligament than curveballs which put more torque than changeups. There are probably rotational type forces involved in throwing curveballs and sliders which have not been measured...
I blame Nolan Ryan, who is obviously an outlier but whose style of pitching seems to have become the goal.
A lot of changeups are thrown with the same arm speed as a fastball but with more of the hand on the ball thus slowing the speed of the pitch enough to be called a changeup. The effect on the arm may be no different than a fastball.
Clemens struck me as the first superthrower who had to adjust his mechanics to throwing down in the strike zone. The Robin Roberts class of pitchers, including Gibson and Koufax, threw high strikes. I have no idea what effect that might have had. - Brock Hanke
I'm hoping Yordani Ventura lasts the season before his Tommy John surgery.
It strikes me that the team that was most successful at keeping pitchers healthy over the past, say, 40 years was the Atlanta Braves of the 1990s. Even that, though, is probably more a case of having three HOF starting pitchers in their primes, rather than any specific program. Or did Cox and Mazzone have a program?
Are you quibbling with me or the study?
Also, why did the drop and drive pitching style from the windup end? Lower mounds?
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