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Still, give me a middle of the order hitter with an average glove at shortstop and I will take him over a defensive wiz who has trouble consistently hitting the ball hard every time.
Firstly, that's Jim writing, not Robothal
and I love how the narrative is that Iglesias' July is his true talent level.
FWIW ZiPS projects Iglesias to hit .273/.318/.330 the rest of the way
That's not the "narrative". It's the truth
I hate this worse than Lowrie and Reddick.
the Sox somehow have the 2nd best record in the AL...
If the Dodgers agreed to take Lee and Utley and Howard and all their salaries as a package deal, would the Phillies do it?
It would be kind of unusual for a player to immediately have a higher OPS in the majors than minors (Iglesias' minor league career srongly suggests a sub sub replacement level hitter (basically his minor league hitting record is a dead ringer for Brian Bocock's)
but then again the Redsox not that long ago had a SS prospect do just that... (H. Ramirez)
Now throw in last year.
June was his new true talent level
That shitty prospect will get ROY votes this year.
The unchanging nature of defense? If anything, defense seems even more variable than offense.
Historically speaking, that's not really a high hurdle to clear.
and none of this changes the fact that WMB is very likely to be worse than Iggy,
Is one of the implications of this deal that Buccholz might not be returning even for the postseason?
if he gets waived (he presumably will tomorrow) he will certainly be claimed. But he's not worth much more than what he's getting paid, so no one's willing to take the contract and give up a top prospect, and I'm not sure I would be either.
Did Jose Iglesias murder your brother or something?
Huh? Great defenders don't vary much. Average people (see Naps this year, Jeter that one good year he had...09?) may step up a little. But Victorino, Crisp, Pedey...they don't change much until it winds down.
So who wants my B-Ref bet that Iggy will end up with more BWAR than Peavy at the end of 2013?
Peavy WAR since 2009: 10.5
Ryan WAR since 2009: 14.5
Dale, what's your point?
That's not how you measure the trade. It's how much each accumulates from now till the end of the year.
And, barring a trade, locked themselves into Middlebrooks at 3B for at least the rest of this year and possibly 2014. That looks like a step down at 3B for a relatively minor upgrade in the rotation.
And, barring a trade, locked themselves into Middlebrooks at 3B for at least the rest of this year and possibly 2014.
Well, I'd argue great hitters are the same way...only more so.
Maybe (and ZiPS RoS agrees) but then why play Iglesias over Middlebrooks to begin with? Presumably they, like us, didn't expect Iglesias to hit at all yet still chose him over Middlebrooks. Now, with Iglesias hitting a bit, they are now more/equally confident in Middlebrooks?
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