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    1. Coot Veal and Cot Deal make $486 every day posted on March 05, 2013 at 07:02 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    2. the Hugh Jorgan returns posted on March 05, 2013 at 07:23 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Thank god he didn't kill anyone. What an incredibly dumb thing to do. That pic in link is just goofy.
    3. The Yankee Clapper posted on March 05, 2013 at 07:26 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    From Edes at ESPN:
    The arrest occurred at 4:42 a.m. Saturday, on Ben Hill Griffin Parkway in Estero, which is adjacent to Fort Myers. According to the arrest report, Britton, who was driving a 2008 black Chevrolet Silverado (a pickup truck), was paced at a maximum speed of 111 mph in a 45 mph zone. With a police car in pursuit, Britton's truck swerved in between other moving vehicles and jumped over a curb, continuing down a small decline and knocking down a barbed-wire fence, according to the police report. Britton then allegedly continued down a dirt road for a quarter of a mile and attempted to pull into a wooded area before coming to a stop. When the officer approached and asked for his license, Britton first handed him his debit card.

    4. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer posted on March 05, 2013 at 07:30 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    If you are going to drive faster than you can throw, you better be Tim ####### Wakefield.
    5. RJ in TO posted on March 05, 2013 at 07:37 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I'm not ever sure that my car could go 111 mph, unless it had just gone over a cliff.
    6. Robert in Manhattan Beach posted on March 05, 2013 at 07:43 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    When the officer approached and asked for his license, Britton first handed him his debit card.

    Horrible..irresponsible..yeah,yeah...but this is funny.
    7. Matt Clement of Alexandria posted on March 05, 2013 at 07:51 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Horrible..irresponsible..yeah,yeah...but this is funny.
    Yeah, I mean, #### this guy and all that, thank god he didn't kill people... but I laughed, too.
    8. Steve Treder posted on March 05, 2013 at 07:56 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I have to agree.

    It reminds me of a video I saw one time where a couple of cops are dealing with a drunk-out-of-his-mind guy. One of the cops hands the guy a breathalizer device, and tells him to blow into it. The drunk guy thinks it's a bottle, and tips it back to take a drink from it. The two cops just crack up laughing.
    9. flournoy posted on March 05, 2013 at 07:56 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Hmm. I have a number of thoughts here. I generally have contempt for speed limits and speeding infractions, but not ones like this. 111 miles per hour? My car can't go that fast even if you give it credit for the earth's rotational velocity. And doing this while drunk? If there were ever a cause for permanent license revocation, here it is.

    I am also familiar with this road he was driving on, having driven on it once or twice myself. Unless much has changed in the last few years, it's a straight four lane divided highway with generally nothing on either side, and light traffic. (Mostly just RSW traffic, I guess.) I'm sure it sees more than its share of speeding, but there's no excuse for this.
    10. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit posted on March 05, 2013 at 08:15 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    We've all had nights where maybe we shouldn't have been driving but don't we usually have enough sense to drive a bit carefully? This is amazingly stupid.

    The debit card thing is pretty damned funny though.
    11. 'Spos posted on March 05, 2013 at 08:20 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    With a police car in pursuit, Britton's truck swerved in between other moving vehicles and jumped over a curb, continuing down a small decline and knocking down a barbed-wire fence, according to the police report. Britton then allegedly continued down a dirt road for a quarter of a mile and attempted to pull into a wooded area before coming to a stop.


    I am also familiar with this road he was driving on, having driven on it once or twice myself. Unless much has changed in the last few years, it's a straight four lane divided highway with generally nothing on either side, and light traffic.


    ...you mean before the curb-jumping, right?
    12. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Fielder posted on March 05, 2013 at 08:26 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Let's see if you can drive that fast in Portland, son.
    13. SOLockwood posted on March 05, 2013 at 08:35 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Did the cop ask him for his PIN?
    14. flournoy posted on March 05, 2013 at 08:37 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    ...you mean before the curb-jumping, right?


    Indeed. I don't think I've had the pleasure of driving down that particular dirt road. Though four lane divided dirt highway would be pretty cool.
    15. madvillain posted on March 05, 2013 at 08:40 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    We've all had nights where maybe we shouldn't have been driving but don't we usually have enough sense to drive a bit carefully? This is amazingly stupid.


    This is right on, no? For every drunk that gets pulled over there are probably 10 more that evening that make it home safely. I've driven when I probably shouldn't have. It didn't make go 110 in a 45 and jump curbs.
    16. Steve Treder posted on March 05, 2013 at 08:49 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I've driven when I probably shouldn't have. It didn't make go 110 in a 45 and jump curbs

    Well, see, that's where you and Britton are different. He WAS driving a bit carefully. Shoot, sober, his normal commute home would be going 140 in a 25 and jumping entire small buildings.
    17. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance posted on March 05, 2013 at 09:06 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    We've all had nights where maybe we shouldn't have been driving

    Speak for yourself.
    18. the Hugh Jorgan returns posted on March 05, 2013 at 09:17 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    We've all had nights where maybe we shouldn't have been driving



    Speak for yourself.


    We had one of these threads just recently that covered availability of options and such. I believe it was the Helton thread where we all just concluded if you make like a gazillion dollars, just use a car service. Obviously not applicable here.

    I'm with 17. Once I have more then 2 beers, that's it, I don't drive(or ride as I'm normally on the motorbike) I taxi, train or walk home. Fortunately in Sydney, the first two options are readily available at any hour.
    19. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance posted on March 05, 2013 at 09:24 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I'm with 17. Once I have more then 2 beers, that's it, I don't drive

    i don't drive after anything over zero. Never have.
    20. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella posted on March 05, 2013 at 09:29 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I used to. It's dumb, but quite commonplace if you don't live in the big city.
    21. madvillain posted on March 05, 2013 at 09:30 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0


    Speak for yourself.


    and...here...we...go!
    22. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes posted on March 05, 2013 at 09:46 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    When the officer approached and asked for his license, Britton first handed him his debit card.

    In the criminal-defense business, we call this a "bad fact."
    23. Karl from NY posted on March 05, 2013 at 10:21 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I'm not ever sure that my car could go 111 mph, unless it had just gone over a cliff.

    Best exchange ever, from a college road trip in a friend's '87 Cadillac:

    "How fast are you going?"

    "I don't know! The speedometer stops at 85!!!"
    24. Traderdave  posted on March 05, 2013 at 10:22 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes, out of curiousity, do you take DUI cases?
    25. Baldrick posted on March 05, 2013 at 10:27 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    This thread should have its children taken away for not yet saying that Britton should have his children taken away.
    26. KT's Pot Arb posted on March 05, 2013 at 10:29 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    It was in Florida! Is a DUI while driving 111 even illegal there?

    Was this just a case of an out of control cop picking on an out of town tourist?
    27. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes posted on March 05, 2013 at 10:43 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes, out of curiousity, do you take DUI cases?

    Yep. It's the most common criminal charge in the US. Just not enough cold-hit murder cases to keep the lights on.

    Curiosity right back to the group: why do so many people distinguish between "DUI" and "criminal" cases? It would never have occurred to me that you could be a criminal defense lawyer and NOT handle DUIs, but I get asked that question a lot. I also don't know any CDLs who refuse to handle DUIs, but many who've chosen to advertise themselves as some variation of "Criminal Defense and DUI Attorney."
    28. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Fielder posted on March 05, 2013 at 10:50 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I rarely drink anyway (growing up in a barroom does that to you, or at least SHOULD do that to you), but because I also make my living by driving, I'm ridiculously cautious about when I do drink. I won't have even one drink and drive, and will not drink within 24 hours of work.

    Which leaves me from 7pm Friday to 8am Sunday if I actually decide I want alcohol.

    29. Tripon posted on March 05, 2013 at 10:55 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    9. flournoy Posted: March 05, 2013 at 07:56 PM (#4381579)
    Hmm. I have a number of thoughts here. I generally have contempt for speed limits and speeding infractions, but not ones like this. 111 miles per hour? My car can't go that fast even if you give it credit for the earth's rotational velocity. And doing this while drunk? If there were ever a cause for permanent license revocation, here it is.


    Two things:

    Modern cars are built a lot more safely than they ever have been, so you can probably go faster than you reasonably could in older cars (from say, 30 to 40 years back. Nobody is driving a car from the 80's anymore, for instance. The oldest cars on the road today are from the early to mid 90s). And 2nd, the people who built roads and the people who decide speed limits are clearly not talking to each other since speed limits are comically under what the road will allow. You can drive most freeways in Southern California at around 75-80, and at some stretches up to 85 comfortably. Yet, the 'speed' limit is set at 65 MPH, and at 55 MPH on some roads. That's just the start of dumb traffic laws in the state.

    Forget the sales tax, prop 13, same sex marriage, or whatever issue you deeply believe in. Whomever can tell me that they will reform the inane traffic laws in California will get my vote. Even if they're a Randian #######.
    30. puck posted on March 05, 2013 at 10:57 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Do cars these days do 111? They all have so much power compared to the 80's, I figure they all could do it. But I have no idea, does top speed make it into car reviews? I haven't tried to drive that fast for many years.
    31. Ray (RDP)  posted on March 05, 2013 at 10:57 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    We've all had nights where maybe we shouldn't have been driving


    I haven't.
    32. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on March 05, 2013 at 11:02 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I'll admit I've gotten a DUI. I was almost certainly going under the speed limit. But apparently you need to have lights on at night.

    It was extraordinarily stupid and I have regretted it ever since.

    If there were ever a cause for permanent license revocation, here it is.


    It must be darn near impossible to get your license revoked. In the rehab class I had to attend, one of the participants was on DUI #6. How he's not confined to prison, much less behind a wheel again, is beyond me.
    33. KT's Pot Arb posted on March 05, 2013 at 11:16 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Do cars these days do 111? They all have so much power compared to the 80's, I figure they all could do it. But I have no idea, does top speed make it into car reviews? I haven't tried to drive that fast for many years


    My convertible can do 110+ in a few seconds from freeway speeds. It's not a very expensive car, nor rare, and the manufacturer rates top speed at 165.

    Of course, given my respect for America's great legal system, I've never driven it faster than 125, no matter how much it begs.
    34. JJ1986 posted on March 05, 2013 at 11:20 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I've gotten my Mazda up around 110 by accident. I'd have to push it to get it higher.
    35. puck posted on March 05, 2013 at 11:25 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    This article on car speedometers overstating top speed uses the Toyota Yaris as an example:

    The speedometer on the Toyota Yaris says the tiny car can go 140 miles per hour.

    In reality, the bulbous subcompact's 106-horsepower engine and automatic transmission can't push it any faster than 109.


    So, a Yaris can do it with a tailwind. I'm guessing just about any recent model can do 111. Maybe not much more, and many cars/trucks won't be safe/handle at all well at such speeds, but they can probably hit it.
    36. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance posted on March 05, 2013 at 11:30 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Do cars these days do 111? They all have so much power compared to the 80's, I figure they all could do it. But I have no idea, does top speed make it into car reviews? I haven't tried to drive that fast for many years.

    Can't speak for an SUV, which is what Britton was driving. Those SOB'ss are pretty heavy. But I can attest that every car I have driven since I got my license in 01 could get to 111 easily enough.
    37. Srul Itza posted on March 05, 2013 at 11:31 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    it's a straight four lane divided highway with generally nothing on either side, and light traffic.


    So the 45 mph thing is some kind of speed trap? It being Florida, I would not be surprised. Otherwise, I find it hard to understand why the limit would be so low on the type of road you describe.

    38. flournoy posted on March 05, 2013 at 11:36 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I only drink once or twice a year, but I've never driven drunk, either. It does rub me the wrong way to see people handwaving away their failures because "we all do it." No, we don't.

    And I'm reasonably sure that my car actually could do 111, contrary to what I posted above. I doubt I'll test that, though.
    39. Srul Itza posted on March 05, 2013 at 11:37 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Modern cars are built a lot more safely than they ever have been, so you can probably go faster than you reasonably could in older cars (from say, 30 to 40 years back. Nobody is driving a car from the 80's anymore, for instance. The oldest cars on the road today are from the early to mid 90s). And 2nd, the people who built roads and the people who decide speed limits are clearly not talking to each other since speed limits are comically under what the road will allow. You can drive most freeways in Southern California at around 75-80, and at some stretches up to 85 comfortably. Yet, the 'speed' limit is set at 65 MPH, and at 55 MPH on some roads. That's just the start of dumb traffic laws in the state.


    The roads are well built. The cars are safer.

    People remain morons who greatly overestimate their skills at all things, including driving skill.
    40. flournoy posted on March 05, 2013 at 11:39 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So the 45 mph thing is some kind of speed trap? It being Florida, I would not be surprised. Otherwise, I find it hard to understand why the limit would be so low on the type of road you describe.


    I don't know. I'm not sure what section of the road he was on, and it's been a few years since I've been there. I'm actually more familiar with the road after it becomes Treeline, and goes past RSW airport to Daniels, and I gather Britton was south of there.
    41. Steve Treder posted on March 05, 2013 at 11:41 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    When it was new, I got my 2001 BMW to over 100, maybe up toward 110, a couple of times, out on straight flat lonely desert blacktops. It was thrilling, of course, and the car was doing just fine, but the thought that struck me was, holy crap, what if I blow a tire or hit a rabbit or something way the hell out here (particularly given how many many miles away from any hospital I was). I got beyond my realm of feeling comfortable and confident, and so after a brief few minutes, I would slow down.

    And what then became clear was just how long it takes to slow down when you're going 100+ MPH. You take the foot off the gas and coast, just let her ride, and after several minutes you think you're down to a reasonable speed, and you look down, and you're still doing 90. When you get down to 75 or 80, you feel as though you're creeping.
    42. Johnny Chimpo posted on March 05, 2013 at 11:50 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    People remain morons who greatly overestimate their skills at all things, including driving skill.


    Yes. As a general rule, people are bad drivers. All of us. Yes, I see you back in the corner, you are a bad driver too.
    43. Johnny Chimpo posted on March 05, 2013 at 11:52 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    oops
    44. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance posted on March 06, 2013 at 12:00 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    42. Johnny Chimpo Posted: March 05, 2013 at 11:50 PM (#4381674)

    People remain morons who greatly overestimate their skills at all things, including driving skill.

    Yes. As a general rule, people are bad drivers. All of us. Yes, I see you back in the corner, you are a bad driver too.

    43. Johnny Chimpo Posted: March 05, 2013 at 11:52 PM (#4381676)
    oops

    But only one of us is a bad poster.
    45. puck posted on March 06, 2013 at 12:11 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Yes. As a general rule, people are bad drivers. All of us. Yes, I see you back in the corner, you are a bad driver too.

    I'm driving the best I can while trying to post.
    46. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle posted on March 06, 2013 at 12:29 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Yep. It's the most common criminal charge in the US.
    Wow. No way I would have guessed this. I would have assumed petit larceny or simple assault. OTOH, all this may demonstrate is that I don't know the definition of "criminal charge".

    Is the defense to a DUI charge straightforward--as in, are there ten things on a checklist you look for, and in the absence of any of those ten things showing substantial mitigation, you advise a plea?

    To answer your question, I guess in my case I don't automatically think of DUI's as criminal cases because when I grew up driving drunk was treated primarily as fodder for comedians. The connection came later and as a result it's like learning a foreign language as an adult. I can do it, but the connections are no longer automatic.

    Yes. As a general rule, people are bad drivers. All of us. Yes, I see you back in the corner, you are a bad driver too.
    I don't think this is true, but I do think I'm one of the bad drivers, which probably makes me a safer driver than I would be without that awareness. I'm also aware at how utterly shitty many drivers are, which makes me the guy on the road who is farthest from other cars.
    47. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) posted on March 06, 2013 at 12:49 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Modern cars are built a lot more safely than they ever have been, so you can probably go faster than you reasonably could in older cars


    Your personal safety is only half of the reason for speed limits. The other half of it is the safety of the guy you're going to be running into, and from his perspective, getting hit by something doing 80 is going to suck no matter how many air bags or crumple zones it has.
    48. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) posted on March 06, 2013 at 01:00 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    the thought that struck me was, holy crap, what if I blow a tire or hit a rabbit or something way the hell out here


    A girl from my freshman dorm hit a tortoise on a lonely Arizona road like that one in the summer between junior and senior year. She wasn't doing 111, but she still rolled a kajillion times, and I heard they buried her closed-casket because she didn't have much of a head left.

    Stay safe out there, everybody.
    49. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes posted on March 06, 2013 at 01:13 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Is the defense to a DUI charge straightforward--as in, are there ten things on a checklist you look for, and in the absence of any of those ten things showing substantial mitigation, you advise a plea?

    Kind of, but the lists are a lot longer than 10 things: there are MANY things that can be wrong if the evidence is a breath test, or a blood test, or "field sobriety tests," or manner of driving. And it's incredibly frustrating to defend against, because once anybody involved (DA, judge, jury) hears that high number, it's hard to get them to hear anything else.
    But it's possible, though. I think it's worth fighting much more than it actually gets fought.
    50. the Hugh Jorgan returns posted on March 06, 2013 at 01:13 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Do cars these days do 111?


    Not either of our family cars. However my motorbike does 265kph(about 160mph). This I know as fact as I was at the track and hit that on the radar gun. No, I had not been drinking beforehand.

    As a general rule, people are bad drivers.


    I disagree. As someone who rides a motorbike, I see all sorts of stupidity, however most people are pretty good. All I ever ask is that you indicate when turning/changing lanes, stay off the phone(both call and text) and just pay attention to the road. It's really not that hard to be a decent driver.

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