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How about a trade that's equally toxic for both parties?
the Red Sox, with their two World Series titles last decade (and that seems a long time ago, yeah?), are playing in a market big on expectations and short on patience.
, it does create one problem.
There is no middle of the order.
The job for 2013 is tough, and I don't mean to undersell how difficult it is to bring in the talent the Sox need, but the baseline job was going to be even tougher, I think.
@53: Most of the league goes on trade waivers in August, to gauge interest. Most of those guys get pulled back.
The top three threads in Hot Topics are varieties of this trade-which-is-not-yet. IMHO, Jim (and others) need to find a way to "group" topics so that people who simply don't care about this particular story can still navigate the site and find other discussions.
I'm aware of that. But right after this trade? I'm not chalking it up to coincidence.
In 2012, I think this trade helps the Rays more than the Yankees or Orioles. The Gonzalez-less (and Beckett-less, though I think that matters less) Sox play them six times in the last month.
Pretty hard to be a baseball fan and not care about such a huge, unprecedented deal.
Do you think Crawford regrets opting for TJS in August? The Dodgers - his Dodgers - might well make a playoff run and could use even an enfeebled left fielder.
I'm not getting this.
The Red Sox play the Orioles an Yankees 6 more times too. Their last 24 games are six apiece against the rest of the division.
If it was between the Royals and Pirates, it would still draw energetic discussion and interest. But I don't believe that four of the top five stories in Hot Topics would be devoted to it.
And trading Lester during his worst year would be dumb.
If this was the Yankees, or Phillies, or any big market team making the trade, I think you'd see a bunch of threads.
I'd say this was a work of daring and genius on the part of their front office that should pay dividends for years to come.
Like trading Beckett and Gonzalez during their worst years?
People who don't want to talk about it have no other way of knowing what discussions are going on
Without reading the comments and without knowing what the Red Sox will do with the $275 M, off the top of my head I'd say this was a work of daring and genius on the part of their front office that should pay dividends for years to come.
Bill Shaikin of The Los Angeles Times reports (on Twitter) that the Blue Jays are believed to have claimed De La Rosa off waivers, but he was pulled back and is likely to be included in the deal as a player to be named later.
Trading for Upton is an intriguing idea, but he's coming off a very disappointing season and it is far from a sure thing that he'll bounce back, particularly in the Boston environment. The fact that the D-Backs management appears to be intent on running him out of town raises some red flags -- while whatever problems Upton is having with the D-Backs may well not be his fault, it doesn't bode particularly well for his ability to handle the situation in Boston.
"The good thing is that he was honest,'' Upton said in response to Kendrick's comments. "He didn't sugarcoat it. … And I respect that. He said what he meant, and he said what he felt from his heart, and he's always backed his team.''"
"You know what? To be honest with you, I don't care anything about what the fans think of me," Upton said "My teammates, my coaches, they know I come in here and I bust it every single day. I come in here and try to do everything I can to help this team and my teammates have my back."
If you look at his stats he's the exact same player as he's been the 3 years prior, just without the power. His OBP, his speed, his defense, all there. It's very clear he's been nursing at least one or more nagging injuries
Boston is now the clear #1 contender to land Josh Hamilton
Don't know all the players involved, but the winner is Carl Crawford. He had to get out of that stadium, if there is one stadium in baseball designed to counter all his value/skills, it's Fenway. He's going to go out and post 115+ ops+ and people are going to say getting away from the pressure of Boston is why, when we know the reality is getting away from Fenway is why(of course that is if he ever becomes healthy to play everyday)
I wonder if Crawford will have the surgery? The Dodgers have Victorino, Ethier, and Kemp, so it seems like they could tell Crawford to do it.
I still can't believe this is real. I keep looking at twitter waiting for it to come undone. I'm not convinced until I see each three in Dodger blue.
I'm still a proponent of the unprovable "if the clubhouse is a disaster it won't matter much who's on your team" idea.
WRT to 112, I sort of get it, since there are more vocal Red Sox fans here than fans of any other team except maybe the Mets or the Yankees, but I don't see it affecting BTF at all.
I posted this in the Sox Therapy thread about the deal, but I think it's a big enough point that it should be made here as well: with the new compensation system, only the top 10 draft picks are protected if you're trying to sign free agents who have had the qualify offer extended by their old teams. So if the Red Sox can tank enough in September to get a top 10 draft pick, they'll be in a position where they can sign as many high end free agents as they want while merely losing their 2nd round pick.
Looking at my BTF "account statistics," I joined up on May 4, 2004. Today is the most important day at BTF since I joined. Basically, the core of this site is Boston Red Sox, with enough generality to avoid SoSH status.
RF: Justin Upton (Trade)
SP: King Felix (Trade)
C: Salty/Napoli platoon (Napoli FA 3/21)
SS: Stephen Drew (FA, 2/18)
SP: Zack Greinke (FA 5/100)
SP: King Felix (Trade)
I'm a Red Sox fan and I find #112 totally baffling.
What's weird is that Danny Glover isn't dead, at least according to Google.
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