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Read More...Pierre’s clout came leading off the bottom of the first for the Miami Marlins against the Cincinnati Reds.
Pierre’s homer was his first since June 23. He whooped when the ball went over the fence down the right-field line.
“I don’t know how to react to those things, so it’s just a spur-of-the-moment deal,” Pierre told reporters of his homer reaction. “That’s about the only time you’ll see me smiling on the baseball field.”
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1. Ok, Griffey's Dunn (Nothing Iffey About Griffey) posted on October 19, 2012 at 06:46 AM # hit 0 | hit 0rare case of a team needing right handed sock
Braves have been searching for rh power for 5+ years now. No prospects and uggla has been underwhelming.
Man it's hard quoting on an ipad
1. He isn't a CF any more, so he doesn't solve that problem.
2. As Harveys said, with Votto and Bruce they don't really need another big LH bat.
3. He's had more than 550 PA 3 times in his 6 year career; twice he's played fewer than 100 games.
4. Someone's going to offer him $18-20M/yr for 6 years. Of that great starting pitching the Reds had this year, 2 are 1st-year arb eligible this year and another is next year; in addition, Bruce, Votto, and Cueto start making real money soon. Unless there's a new, significant revenue stream we don't know about, I don't think the Reds want to get to $120-130M in payroll.
5. If Daugherty is supporting it, it has to be a horrible idea.
point 5 is pretty funny
A guy who describes Bourn in that fashion is probably not someone who should be dishing out advice on player acquisitions.
I know they are the two best bats in the lineup, but, Votto and Bruce are, I think, going to be the only 2 lefty bats on the Reds entire 40-man roster. They need some kind of lefty or switch-hitting bat somewhere in the lineup.
edit: ok, the Reds right now have Xavier Paul and Didi Gregorius as left-handed bats on the 40-man roster also.
Isn't this why you have Dusty Baker as manager though? The Reds certainly aren't keeping him for his creative lineups.
Obviously, I wouldn't just back up the armored truck and dump $25 mil a year on him or anything, but, if he could be had at the right price...
And, of course, if the Reds were to get Hamilton, Dusty would bat Votto, Hamilton, Bruce 3-5-7 so he can "split of the lefties". Maybe a right-handed power bat is the way to go for them.
the crew ain't finding any pitching so might as well go from leading the nl in runs scored to leading by a lot and making an offense that is more capable away from miller park
put hamilton in right for hard and that lefty bat and the crew might have something.
but at a 100 million that ain't happening
my two cents is if hamilton got out of centerfield and in the national league he would bust out at even greater whooping stick
C. Gonzalez LF
Tulowitzki SS
J. Hamilton RF
Helton/Cuddyer 1B
Rosario C
Rutledge 2B
Pacheco 3B
That's a contender, isn't it? At any rate, the Rockies would have the best outfield in the league.
Make it happen, Giambino!
um, what about the pitching??
Man... I still wonder if that 2008 team would disappeared in the playoffs if Hamilton hadn't been just given away back in 2006. Figure they probably don't pick up TOFU, who was excellent of course -- or heck, maybe they do and Fukudome becomes the 4th OF subbing all over.
Ehhh... I suppose Wrigleyville isn't the right place for Josh anyway.
Pomeranz-Chacin-Nicasio-Francis-de la Rosa should be able to hold its own, with Alex White, Tyler Chatwood and Christian Friedrich waiting in AAA. It's not especially good, but at least there's some depth for whoever falls apart.
Even without Hamilton, I expect them to be back around .500 next year. There's still a lot of young talent here.
if theo wasn't signing prince i don't see how he ponies up for hamilton
fielder was much lower risk all the way around. and with fielder that's a big around.
ha, ha.
I hope not. Just what the Reds need is another right-handed bat that can't hit righthanded pitching anymore.
Reds have been looking for right handed power my entire adult life.
The Cubs had a deal in place with the Reds so the Reds could get Hamilton. The Cubs would have never even taken him in the rule 5 draft and he might still be a Devil Ray.
My "reasonably priced FA acquisition" target for the Reds is Pagan. I don't have as much faith in Billy Hamilton being ready for 2014 as most people, and even if he is, that's a good problem to have.
Yeah - but the Cubs had traded for Rizzo a few weeks before Prince signed... I suppose there was a conscious decision there NOT to get in on the Fielder bidding when doing the Rizzo deal.
I guess I just look at the OF differently -- especially when the OF can play CF (and as such, all 3 spots) -- I'm not saying that I want Theo to sign Hamilton... you're right - there's a ton of risk, and Hamilton will be 32 next season on a team that figures to not be very good for at least another season or two.
Plus, they don't really need an OF -- they need SP and a 3B.
third baseman?
i hear a guy in new york might be available.........
Heh... the Cubs also have a LF that's available.
Repeating from one of the A-Rod threads, though -- I don't think I'd do a Soriano-ARod swap even if the Yankees equalized the money (meaning, the Cubs essentially paying A-Rod the 36 million they still owe Fonsie with the Yankees footing the rest). If the Yankees were to eat a little more cash... say -- the Cubs pay A-Rod 30 million -- or, if the Yankees were to toss in a lottery ticket or two... OK.
Frazier's likely to give them the same production, isn't even arb eligible for 2 more years, and isn't about to turn 34.
Frazier is probably capable of playing LF if the reds wanted to go for a 3b. The more I have thought about it, the more I'd rather have Frazier at 3b and look for other options for OF production.
I'm worried about a huge Ludwick regression and/or him wanting a lot more than the 1/$5 mutual option.
Actually, this sounds good to me. switch hits, plays centerfield relatively well, gets on base at a decent clip, won't cost $20 million a year.
Yeah, I think it's a good fit. Gives the reds a L/S, a decent lead off hitter, and comes pre-installed with the veteran pixie dust aura for dusty. With Bourn, Upton, and Hamilton on the market, he would be the 4th prize CF. Figured a decent 2-3 year contact would be enough to sign him, so he wouldn't necessarily be blocking Hamilton.
At the time, the Reds were desperate for pitchers - they were next to last in the league in RA, and after Harang there were a million question marks on the staff (actually, in most instances there wasn't any question at all). It's telling that 25 different pitchers appeared for the Reds in '07, and only 3 - Arroyo, Bailey (who wasn't any good until this year), and Bray - are still in the organization. On the other hand, they had an OK offense with Dunn, Griffey showing signs of life (623 PA!), Phillips, Encarnacion, .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address), and Votto tore it up in a September call-up.
So trading a hitter (who had only one season under his belt, and missed 72 games during the year) for a pitcher made sense.
And by the way - Vozquez is the last non-Canadian to lead the team in WAR - he was really good in '07. Unfortunately, then injuries and ineffectiveness set in.
For that matter, as has often been observed, even Milt Pappas was hardly a disaster. He would go on to win 99 games over the next eight years, with an ERA+ of 107. This is not the kind of pitcher you just pick up off the sidewalk. Robinson had a great second half of a career in the meantime, and the trade was a win for Baltimore, for sure, but Pappas was not nothing; decent starting pitchers have substantial value.
I was not a fan of the trade when it was made, but it wasn't that bad.
EDIT: If it's not clear, I agree with you TDF. Just adding to the points you made.
Frank and Brooks Robinson
Andruw and Chipper Jones
Billy and Josh Hamilton
I wouldn't be surprised if Pagan has the most teams bidding for his services. Those first 3 all come with glaring warning signs for their projected high price tags.
I am in a pool with some friends guessing the landing spots of the Top 30 or so free agents that do not have options. The CF market is pretty saturated. I picked Pagan to be a Brave; it just seems right up Atlanta's alley. They do not do splashy, expensive, high-risk signings very often.
I have Bourn down as a Ranger, Victorino as a Red, Upton as a Met, and Hamilton playing LF as a Oriole. I also have Torii Hunter as a Phillie. I have not yet decided on where Melky Cabrera will land.
Hamilton's talent was (and is) evident. I wasn't so concerned about his drug use (insert Keith Hernandez joke here), either, and I thought took the clubhouse rumors with a grain of salt. I also was never on the Volquez bandwagon (I wasn't surprised that he only had one good year in Cinci, no matter what the reason).
This is crazier than saying the Cubs "gave away" Hamilton. Do you project Soriano to be more valuable than A-Rod over the next 2 seasons? Do you project A-Rod to be worth nothing after 2014?
Crazy? The President of the United State called it “A Date Which Will Live in Infamy,” the sale was on December 7.
In short -
Yes and yes.
He just looks cooked to me... of course, I thought Soriano looked cooked 3 years ago, so what do I know...
They could try to coax Milo out of retirement for the hat trick!
They'd be better off asking Joey.
The way I read that the first time, I was thinking you must lead the strangest life.
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