i thought towers in sd was a mixed bag, but a solid horse trader. haven't seen much i like from him in arizona yet.

ag#1f: had arizona done that, i (for one) would've though arizona was selling low, but that it was a not unreasonable deal. mind you, that's absent the pennington deal.
between alcides and bauer, i take bauer.

148 - that's certainly part of it, in all likelihood.

145 - i'm with you in theory, but that's 'cause my valuation of shields and myers probably isn't that far from yours. reasonable people can disagree here (particularly w/ the less known commodity).
also, i think people here were undervaluing shields durability (game to game and within games - the marginal innings that are getting picked up aren't all by the #3 reliever) - while i'd guess that the baseball world isn't discounting the possibility that he'll fail to stay so healthy enough / park and defense effects that gave him the value he had in tampa.

They may well be, but, if this was all you could get for Myers and Bauer, you keep them.

But what if you think that they could drop in value below what you are able to receive if you trade them now, like "I think he is an A- right now, but all I can get is value equal to a B, but based on our internal info we expect him to drop to a C+ by the end of the year" Along the lines of it is better to trade a guy a year too early opposed to a year too late.

Not bad...but you kinda lost me at Ryan Roberts

Ryan Roberts 4.7 WAR, less than $3m

Willie B. $4.7M, -0.5 WAR

Bauer had to go because some idiot drafted him without realizing what a headcase he was.

Kubel has to go cause same idiot signed him for $15m without realizing he was a DH.

Bob Nightengale talked to the Dbacks front office, got a job as their henchman to continue the character assassination of Trevor Bauer. I am only surprised he didn't do a podcast with Ken Kendrick, so we can find out how the Dbacks REALLY feel about Trevor Bauer. Link.

Bauer had to go because some idiot drafted him without realizing what a headcase he was.

Actually, I believe Dipoto was a major proponent for drafting Bauer, but Towers was fully onboard. Am too lazy to go looking for articles from the time he was drafted (Nick Piecoro at AZ Central had great coverage before and after the draft), but Towers was impressed with Bauer and at least at the time said all the right things about wanting him in the organization. Bauer mentioned after signing that the Dbacks had promised him to let him continue his unusual routine.

It's possible that Towers never liked Bauer, and drafted him because Dipoto insisted on it (with Towers getting his guy in Archie Bradley at #7). Once Dipoto was gone, Towers couldn't wait to get rid of Bauer. It's possible Towers was OK with Bauer, but also had a deal with Dipoto that Dipoto would manage Bauer's development to the majors. Or it's possible Towers felt he could quickly beat the nonsensical approach to pitching out of Bauer once Bauer has been signed.

It's probably a combination of all this. There were rumors that Dipoto and Towers strongly disagreed about when and how to bring up Bauer to the majors. There were all the innuendos by Towers that Bauer needed to stop the long toss "nonsense" and start pitching like a regular guy. There were all the thinly veiled threats by Towers that Bauer was an employee of the Dbacks and should do what his employer told him to do. Then there was the trade, basically a talent dump.

Anyhow, that's water under the bridge. Kevin Towers just acquired a guy who reminds him of a young Derek Jeter, apparently. I think that tells us all we need to know about Kevin Towers.

Towers gave him $4.7M, its hard to imagine KT didnt know what he was getting.