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Wednesday, January 09, 2013

Roger Clemens’ reaction to HOF vote

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posted on January 09, 2013 at 09:07 PM by The District Attorney to comic sans, hall of fame, roger clemens | 34 comment(s)

“I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT ROGER CLEMENS WILL BE ELECTED TO THE HALL OF FAME BEFORE JON HEYMAN”

You can take it to the bank.

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1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on August 20, 2012 at 02:11 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Sugar Land Skeeters? Is this a real team? Is this from the Onion? Or Scribbly Tate?

2. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) posted on August 20, 2012 at 02:17 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Hardball Talk says Clemens is throwing 87. Given he's older than Moyer, that's pretty good.

3. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises posted on August 20, 2012 at 02:48 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Oh god please let this happen.

4. flournoy posted on August 20, 2012 at 02:54 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Rumors around Houston suggest that whichever of those four looks the best over the next two weeks will get a shot with the fightin’ Astros in September.

I don't understand this at all. To believe this, I'd have to accept that someone with the Astros said, "We've narrowed down our Big September Acquisition plans to Roger Clemens, Jason Lane, Tim Redding, or Scott Kazmir. We can one and only one of these guys." I get that all four of those guys have ties to Houston, but I don't see why the Astros would be interested.

5. dr. scott posted on August 20, 2012 at 02:58 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

If they can pitch, I dont see why they would not call them all up... I mean... its the Astros. They dont need to be that good to make the team.

6. Gonfalon Bubble posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:05 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

7. AROM posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:08 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I get that all four of those guys have ties to Houston, but I don't see why the Astros would be interested.

Would you pay money to watch this Astros team?

Would you pay money, just on curiosity factor alone, to watch Roger Clemens pitch another game?

My answers are 1. no and 2. yes. I suspect I'm not the only one who feels that way. So I'm rooting for good old fashioned money grubbing capitalism to come through here. If the Astros are thinking with their ticket sales in mind, then Clemens is the obvious choice here. It will not matter if Tim Redding's stuff grades out slightly better than 50 year old Clemens, nobody is going to buy a ticket specifically to watch Tim Redding's comeback.

8. TVerik posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:12 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Might pushing his HOF eligibility be best for Clemens? The atmosphere around "proven" PED users is toxic right now; perhaps it'll be different in five more years. Maybe the "PED backlog" won't be as big.

9. Mayor Blomberg posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:12 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Bringing Clemens to the Juice box could double attendance (to about 4,000). Kazmir's been in Sugar Land for a couple months now; kind of sad to think how young he still is.

All in all, the Skeeters is starting to look like a beer league for has-beens and never-wases, but it's a smart business move by the league.

10. Joey B. has ignited his October #Natitude posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:15 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

11. MikeTorrez posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:18 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I really hope the team isn't named after what I think it's named after...

12. Rants Mulliniks (formerly Cold Prosimian) posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:19 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

When did Jason Lane start pitching?

13. SoSH U at work posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:21 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Might pushing his HOF eligibility be best for Clemens? The atmosphere around "proven" PED users is toxic right now; perhaps it'll be different in five more years. Maybe the "PED backlog" won't be as big.

It probably couldn't hurt, and most likely would aid his vote total. It wouldn't be the difference between first-ballot and non-induction, but it could help gain BBWAA induction in later years on the ballot.

14. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:22 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I really hope the team isn't named after what I think it's named after...

Mosquitos?

15. TomH posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:25 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I hope he pitches one game and then gets busted for 50 :)

16. Bruce Markusen posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:34 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Any team with the nickname of "Skeeters" is all right by me. Reminds me of the not-so-classic horror film, "Skeeter," starring Charles Napier.

17. Good cripple hitter posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:38 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

When did Jason Lane start pitching?

He got a handful of innings in the Jays minor league system (4 in 2010, 13 last year), and this year he was released after 22 innings for Arizona's AAA team.

18. God posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:40 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Six of the 12 baseball-related hot topics on the sidebar right now are about Houston or the Astros. Crazy.

19. Good cripple hitter posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:40 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

20. bobm posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:50 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'm fine with this as long as Suzyn Waldman doesn't start shrieking about it.

21. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire posted on August 20, 2012 at 03:55 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I am hugely in favor of this. Hugely.

Also, Jim Palmer should try again. Why not.

22. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) posted on August 20, 2012 at 04:02 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

If Clemens does this, how long do you think it'll be before someone suggests that the fact that he's only throwing 87 is a function of the new PED testing?

23. God posted on August 20, 2012 at 04:03 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

How come managers never announce comebacks? I'd love to see Earl WeaVer or Tommy Lasorda try to work their way back to the bigs by managing some third-rate indy team.

24. PepTech posted on August 20, 2012 at 04:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Given he's older than Moyer

I'm sorry, but this isn't possible.

25. Darren

posted on August 20, 2012 at 04:23 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Only a team that's a complete mess would pick up Clemens. I'm not just talking about a bad team. I mean a team that severely underperforming, one that has an obviously messed up management team, one that has been ravaged by injuries. Players you thought you could count on to be good would have stunk. Injured players go on he DL and never return. Yes, the team that picks up Roger Clemens should be a total clown show....

26. Jim (jimmuscomp) posted on August 20, 2012 at 04:33 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Don't the Red Sox have a need for a starter? He'd probably go over great in Beantown.

27. bookbook posted on August 20, 2012 at 04:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Skeeters have a better rotation than the Twins!

28. McCoy posted on August 20, 2012 at 05:08 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Theo should sign him Afterall his master strategy over the next few years is to sign lottery tickets and hope he hits the jackpot on the trade market, right?

29. kthejoker posted on August 20, 2012 at 05:23 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I realize the man is worth millions of dollars, but sports is still one of the only places where when somebody retires from the top, they don't just go do something like this just for the hell of it.

My grandpa the architect retired a wealthy man and went and built fishing docks in Louisiana at cost, just because he knew how to draw up plans, get them approved, and manage a team. He put his chief life skills to work. Roger's chief life skill is entertaining people by throwing a baseball. Why not?

30. LargeBill posted on August 20, 2012 at 06:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Jack Morris talked Roger into this comeback.

31. mex4173 posted on August 20, 2012 at 06:29 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Toronto's pitching has been a mess...

32. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on August 20, 2012 at 06:35 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

If he can make it through three months in the Toronto rotation without suffering a cataclysmic injury we'll know he's using powerful and secret PEDs.

33. Dale Sams posted on August 20, 2012 at 06:40 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Afterall his master strategy over the next few years is to sign lottery tickets and hope he hits the jackpot on the trade market, right?

And when he does...(Beltre) He lets them walk. Yeah, that made sense Theo.

34. Darren

posted on August 20, 2012 at 07:06 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Boston--come on, it would bring happiness to two Darrens and maybe others (but who cares). Come on. Please?

35. SoSH U at work posted on August 20, 2012 at 07:14 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Boston--come on, it would bring happiness to two Darrens

There's two of you? What the hell is this, Bewitched?

36. The George Sherrill Selection posted on August 20, 2012 at 07:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Rocket and The King on the same pitching staff. Z, make it happen.

37. Gonfalon Bubble posted on August 20, 2012 at 07:38 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Roger Clemens bumping his Hall of Fame eligibility five years, and the reaction thereto by the BBWAA, would be genius comedy. One pitch, just one, and it doesn't even have to be a strike. Make this magic happen.

And five years from now all of the writers will have completely forgotten all about the controversy surrounding Clemens. Because the whole subject of P.E.D.s in baseball has "jumped the shark" and nobody ever even talks about it anymore.

People still gripe about the designated hitter once in a blue moon, and the DH rule might be six years old or more.

The reason it would be genius comedy is not because it would deviously ensure that Roger the Cheater would magically sneak into the Hall on the first ballot, but because it would deprive the BBWAA of the chance to publish all those big, brassy columns they've already got written inside their heads or their computer folders. Making Mike Lupica cry is what our boys died for at Iwo Jima.

38. with Glavinesque control and Madduxian poise posted on August 20, 2012 at 07:46 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I think Clemens coming back would be hilarious, but I am strongly opposed because I don't want him to pass Maddux in win totals.

39. Cblau posted on August 20, 2012 at 07:56 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Minor league and independent league play no longer affects Hall of Fame eligibility. See Rickey Henderson, or http://baseballhall.org/hall-famers/rules-election/bbwaa

40. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Fielder posted on August 20, 2012 at 08:02 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I think Clemens coming back would be hilarious, but I am strongly opposed because I don't want him to pass Maddux in win totals.

If he plays for the Astros, this won't be an issue.

41. Darren

posted on August 20, 2012 at 08:29 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

No, passing Maddux is WHY it would hilarious AND AWESOME!

There's two of you? What the hell is this, Bewitched?

There was another one before me, but I replaced him. Nobody seemed to notice.

42. SteveM. posted on August 20, 2012 at 08:44 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

This pitching staff is like a blast from the past. How many former major leaguers can you spot?

21 Farnsworth, Jeff P 10/6/75 6'2 205 R R [More]
22 Frias, Jusef - DL P 12/31/84 6'3 220 R R [More]
26 Giron, Roberto P 3/24/76 6'2 203 R R [More]
20 Kazmir, Scott P 1/24/84 6'0 185 L L [More]
25 Lane, Jason P 12/22/76 6'2 225 R L [More]
35 Liriano, Pedro P 10/23/80 6'2 180 R R [More]
38 Majewski, Gary P 2/26/80 6'2 225 R R [More]
5 Morgan, Sean - DL P 1/15/86 6'3 215 R R [More]
27 Nix, Michael P 5/21/83 6'4 245 R R [More]
24 Parcell, Garrett P 7/12/84 6'4 225 R R [More]
40 Phillips, Heath - DL P 3/24/82 6'3 255 L L [More]
29 Redding, Tim P 2/12/78 6'0 215 R R [More]
39 Richardson, Dustin P 1/9/84 6'6 230 L L [More]
17 Rivera, Saul P 12/7/77 5-11 190 R R [More]
18 Startup, Will P 8/4/84 6'0 195 L L [More]
28 Villa, Kelvin P 12/14/85 5'10 184 L L [More]

43. the Hugh Jorgan returns posted on August 20, 2012 at 09:18 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Bringing Clemens to the Juice box

I believe Clemens has already been to the "juice box"

As a money grubbing lover of sideshow alley stuff, I totally approve of this.

44. The District Attorney posted on August 20, 2012 at 09:29 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I asked Rob on Twitter if he was being sarcastic about the Astros planning to call up a Skeeter. His response:

That's not the word I would use. But yes, I had a gleam in my eye when I wrote that.

45. Gonfalon Bubble posted on August 20, 2012 at 09:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I asked Rob on Twitter if he was being sarcastic about the Astros planning to call up a Skeeter.

Don't they know it's the end of the world?

46. Walt Davis posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:53 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

He should join the Yankees 2003 all-star squad -- 3.8 WAR in 2003.

47. base ball chick posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:43 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

when roger pitches for the skeeters it will more than pack the place

it would be beyond AWESOME if roger pitched for the astros again - certainly would draw more fans than whatever "christian" band they get for "family" night. of course, 50 year old roger would be the best pitcher on the team - except for lucas harrell who is prolly a #4 guy on a decent team. the rest aren't worth a bucket of warm spit

48. Dan Evensen posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:55 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

There are only, what, 3 threads on this topic today? I'm happy that I made it to Skeeter Primer this morning. :-D

49. Jay Z posted on August 21, 2012 at 12:22 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

They used to do this stuff with coaches back in the 1st half of the 20th century. Late in the season, let the old guy play a game or two.

It went away, and was killed when they tried to bring Minoso back in 1990 just to set a record. But I'm for it, so long as it isn't a record gimmick.

50. DanG posted on August 21, 2012 at 01:57 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Roger Clemens bumping his Hall of Fame eligibility five years, and the reaction thereto by the BBWAA, would be genius comedy. One pitch, just one, and it doesn't even have to be a strike. Make this magic happen.

Actually, he doesn't even need to throw a pitch. Just write his name on the starting lineup card and it counts as a game played. See J.T. Snow 2008 or Larry Yount 1971.

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