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Yes, that seems to be one of his points...because he's edited in the past and it's a headache, so expecting other sites to have some semblance of competent editing is asking to much from a free site. Just ask them to run it through word spell check at least before submitting the article.
as bbref has begun to, how to say, fully monetize the eyeballs. There is some info fangraphs has that is nowhere else - I use it for that.
For the record, You guys use WPA as an actual stat.... you have nothing to feel superior about, I haven't figured out which is a more useless stat, WPA or Productive outs.
WPA is not a stat that should be used to measure the value of players, but it perfectly encapsulates what it's supposed to be. It's useful to tell the story of how the game went.
productive outs tells what it is supposed to also
To cardsfanboy. If you don't like the ads on BBREF, I'm not sure why you don't just use FanGraphs. Their stat pages are top notch - at least as good as BBREF's. It's seems like your just playing favoritism, which is fine I guess, but you're shooting yourself in the foot and I'm not sure why anyone should listen to you. I agree that the articles are mostly poor and can be downright terrible at times, but that's irrelevent to the stats portion of the site.
Secondly, WPA certainly can be used as a measurement of value. It's essentially just linear weights adjusted for leverage. If you want to included clutch performance in your definition of value, using WPA in place of WRAA (batting runs above average) in the WAR calculation is perfectly defensible. The problem with WPA on it's own is that it's baselined to league average instead of replacement level (meaning it doesn't properly account for playing time) and obviously your leverage is dependent on the guys in front of you. On the other hand, you have no problem using ERA instead of FIP even though ERA is heavily dependent on your teammates as well. So #### it, I'm not sure what your general philosophy is.
It is linear weights ran through a stupid machine.... again, if you hit a solo homerun in a 1-0 game, it has the EXACT SAME VALUE no matter what inning it happens in. WPA on the other hand says "no it doesn't, because I'm a legal retard stat and if you hit that homerun in the top of the 9th inning, it's worth a whole hell of a lot more than it is in the first inning."
Also, ERA totally is theoretical because it reconstructs the innings based on errors. If you want a stat that's pure results, look at RA/9.
Actually, if it's a 2 run homer it IS a lot more valuable in the bottom of the 9th, because it ENDS THE GAME.
You're getting hung up on the real vs. constructed idea and I can only assume that's because you have zero imagination. If you're trying to accurately value a player you're going to have to go with models, otherwise you're going to have a bunch of #### that doesn't measure what you're trying to measure.
But for hitters WPA totally is meaningful as a measure of value because it accounts for base/out states in a way that wOBA does not.
but no, a 2 run homerun is worth exactly the same value no matter when it happens
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