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They suffered a lot of weird infighting and insurrection against Bradley, too.
i dont know how to help you, they never attacked with pace, never threatened to dra close in this game, and were uminspiring, if you think this was a solid effort not sure you will enjoy much of this world cup,and chile is arguable the 5th rated south american team going into this tourney so not only was spain lacklasture they were so against a less than stellar opponent
Would Mexico be favored over Croatia? Its win or go home because no way Cameroon beats Brazil - but then again, didn't think Spain would be on 0 points either.
1) If Brazil were to lose to Cameroon by 1 goal and Croatia and Mexico tie, Mexico wins the group on points and Croatia would advance based on GD.
The odds of these combining to happen is supposedly about 1.5%. An early red card + penalty on a "last defender" foul plus parking the bus might get it done for Cameroon. It's never impossible.
It becomes marginally more likely if Brazil decide that they would rather play the first placed team from the Chile Holland group and therefore set out to play for a draw.
Also, I "get" expected goals, but I don't give a team credit for squandering good chances. Yeah, that means if they played again, Spain would/should be favored. Which I agree with. But Spain does not deserve "credit" for Busquets missing a ####### sitter. Finishing chances is a big component of playing well.
I don't think that's a fair point. Mandzucic was just screening Song off the play which is pretty standard stuff.
Song's reaction to that was kind of insane.
I think it's at least fair to say Del Bosque's coaching job this round was absolutely terrible. Spain didn't come ready to play, clearly had some players on the field that should not have been there (Torres and Casillas at least, and maybe others depending on how you feel), and Del Bosque seemingly had no way to motivate the players when things started to go against them. Probably to me this was most illustrated in the last 20 minutes of the game against the Netherlands, where they just seemed to give up almost completely. In many ways the tournament was lost right there. The huge GD meant they knew they had to beat Chile, thereby putting a lot of extra pressure on the players, especially when they went down early.
...the US starting eleven in Qatar 2022.
I think that's fair but I also think there was a limit to what he could have done. I think it was a bit similar to last year's Yankees where his options just weren't there. He had to ride with what he had and guys just got a little older and a little slower. We saw it a bit at the 2012 Euros and some of what we saw at both Barca and Real Madrid the last couple of years the whispers have been out there.
As noted they were going to have a tournament like this at some point and while it sucks to have it happen at a World Cup this allows them to move onto the next phase.
after 2 miserable games spain has the worst differntial going, and had hopeless defense and poor goalkeeping, they wont be "fine" anytime soon, its hard to see them as anything more than a lower 20 tiered team .
There's not much separating the very best teams in the world so any slippage becomes exaggerated.
the two sports shows here in toronto spent a little time analyzing why the spanish played so awful, both agreed the attacking was awful, no pace no speed no pressure, no confidence in their attack and zilch in finishing, both agreed that spanish under 21s success meant the future wasnt that bleak , both agreed spain is no longer a major force in soccer and that the team couldnt be ranked in the top 10 , again not sure what chilean game you were watching the first 20 minutes of the second half contained two decent scoring chances both by chile the spanish defense remained poor the entire game and they lost to a team that simply isnt a dominating side, this spanish team just played very poorly in its first two matches.
they were hopelessly outclassed
did you not watch the games? they were hopelessly outclassed in both contests against teams that were not considered world beaters going in, holland looked good but not awesome against the socceroos who put up a better fight than the spanish did, i dont know why some people cling to a dynatsy like this after its so clearly over.
Colombia trying to play a trick corner
The Daily Mail predicted England's World Cup 2014 squad in 2007.
They just played badly for two games and got a really bad goalkeeping performance (from a goalie who isn't Spain's best). They'll be fine.
There's no doubt that a number of their players (Casillas and Xabi especially), but there's also undoubtedly a big tactical element in there. Both opponents played high pressing games to keep Spain from having the ball the entire match, and Spain just didn't have the players to punish a team that does that. They are designed to have so much of the ball that they can grind out wins without ever being threatened.
This doesn't quite mesh with the pre-tournament consensus that there were only four teams with any realistic chance to win the Cup.
Was this really a "consensus"?
Who takes the Spain job, assuming Del Bosque steps down?
The rest of the field had decent odds in aggregate.
What do people expect the lineup to be with Altidore ruled out? I'd bring Zusi in and go with Dempsey alone up top. I don't see how they retain possession in the middle of the field playing the same way they did against Ghana.
I wouldn't be shocked if Davis or Mix got involved in place of Bedoya to just try and get some fresh legs out there given the forecast.
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