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Tuesday, May 21, 2013

Yanks, Manchester City awarded MLS expansion team

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Major League Soccer Commissioner Don Garber announced today that a partnership of global sports powers, Manchester City Football Club and the New York Yankees, has acquired the League’s 20th expansion club. The new team will be named New York City Football Club (NYCFC) and expects to begin play in 2015.

Wait, I thought Manchester United was the Yankees’ fellow member of the Legion of Doom, not Manchester City!

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1. Eric in Madison posted on May 02, 2012 at 10:18 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Big day for my Spurs. 4-1 win at Bolton, Chelsea loses to Newcastle at the Bridge. At Villa and home to Fullham left. Within 1 point of Arsenal for 3rd, which would be sweet, but unlikely.

All for naught if Chelsea wins the CL. What a nightmare that would be all around. And to see Modric on Chelsea next year will be especially brutal if they are defending the CL and Spurs are left out.

2. frannyzoo posted on May 02, 2012 at 10:21 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

To celebrate the fact that we have nothing to lose but our message board chains, I smash the State via the May thread by simply regurgitating my last point on the April-is-the-cruelest-month thread....besides, both Marx and Engels would hate the idea of billionaire Muscovites...

So, if I read it all correctly...Chelsea could just miss a FA Cup trophy this year, and entry into Europe via a UCL Final loss in Munich and/or placement in the final EPL table as sixth place team.

Sounds good to me. As one who dislikes Chelsea this is just about optimal. I don't like relying on 'Pool for anything these days, however.

3. Juan V posted on May 02, 2012 at 11:01 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

CAMPEONES, CAMPEONES, OE OE OEEEEEE!!!

4. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo posted on May 02, 2012 at 11:06 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Gigi Buffon's gaffe... unreal. Juventus didn't play particularly well, but I don't think Lecce even tested Buffon once (there was a scramble in the box off a set piece, but I don't know if an actual shot was registered there). Worse is that Lecce were down to ten men when they drew level.

Is Blackpool a fair comparison for Pescara's style of play? I've heard a few times about Zeman's unique style of play. I'm picturing a team that's a boatload of fun to watch (80 goals in Serie B this year! Next highest is 54.), but rather vulnerable to any type of counter-attack.

5. Swedish Chef posted on May 03, 2012 at 01:34 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

So, if I read it all correctly...Chelsea could just miss a FA Cup trophy this year, and entry into Europe via a UCL Final loss in Munich and/or placement in the final EPL table as sixth place team.

Let's answer in the right thread then. I've got bad news, this can't happen, if Liverpool win the FA Cup, the League Cup place (the least attractive one) will go to the 6th place PL team.

6. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 03, 2012 at 06:47 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Some background on Delio Rossi's meltdown.

7. Neutral Milk Dotel (Dan Lee) posted on May 03, 2012 at 06:53 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

The AP says Bill Miller's bid for Rangers has been accepted in principle.

I still can't figure out how someone parlayed a towing company into that kind of cash. Maybe I should start a towing company so I can revive Chmel Blšany.

8. Neutral Milk Dotel (Dan Lee) posted on May 03, 2012 at 07:02 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Ah, I see. Bill Miller started a company that makes towing equipment. I had this mental image of a guy tooling around East Tennessee in a tow truck, then going home at night to a Scrooge McDuck-ian pile of gold doubloons.

9. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance posted on May 03, 2012 at 07:41 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

All for naught if Chelsea wins the CL. What a nightmare that would be all around. And to see Modric on Chelsea next year will be especially brutal if they are defending the CL and Spurs are left out.

As a Newcastle fan, I have already come to accept that I will have to root for Chelsea against Bayern, even though it will mean Newcastle misses out on the CL. Cause #### my luck.

10. frannyzoo posted on May 03, 2012 at 08:04 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

if Liverpool win the FA Cup, the League Cup place (the least attractive one) will go to the 6th place PL team.

Thanks...I guess I'll have to hope Chelsea do this year's Fulham and play somebody like Lech Poznan over two legs in July.

11. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 03, 2012 at 08:09 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

The CL Final does have all the charm of a Nancy Grace v Bill O'Reilly mud wrestling match. I suppose I'll just hope Robben puts on a show. Taking out Real and then Chelsea will carry some satisfaction for him, I'd guess.

12. Mattbert posted on May 03, 2012 at 09:23 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Papa Cisse's goals really needed Alan Partridge doing the commentary. Holy f**k.

Modric scored a peach of an opener at Bolton too.

13. Mattbert posted on May 03, 2012 at 09:46 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Some background on Delio Rossi's meltdown.

So he comes off as the good guy in all of this? (Sort of.) Man, Serie A is fantastic.

14. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 03, 2012 at 10:07 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Huh. Foxsoccer.tv has classic matches available for viewing now. Tehy've got an old Man U v Man City game up and a couple of old Tottenham v Chelsea.

15. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo posted on May 03, 2012 at 10:19 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

They're not full matches -- just those half-hour segments that are occasionally on FSC. Still, they've been adding more and more content over the past six months. It's well worth the $20 per month.

16. zack posted on May 03, 2012 at 10:21 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Is Blackpool a fair comparison for Pescara's style of play? I've heard a few times about Zeman's unique style of play. I'm picturing a team that's a boatload of fun to watch (80 goals in Serie B this year! Next highest is 54.), but rather vulnerable to any type of counter-attack.

Delfini! I haven't paid any attention to serie b this year, that's a serious ascent from their reformation. I have no answers to your questions, so maybe check Ze man's personal website?

Spoiler alert, it's zeman.org. Zeman.org!

17. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) posted on May 03, 2012 at 10:37 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Man, Serie A is fantastic.

It really is bizarre. I still can't get over that story with the Genoa players and the shirts. I mean, there's just so much that's crazy about it.

18. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 03, 2012 at 10:40 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

No Pescara bandwagon jumpers around here, dammit! (Torino and Pescara meet up on the 12th in a game that could decide the Serie B title, by they way. Torino has allo0wed the fewest goals and Pescara has scored the most. Should be interesting and, since it's the lone late game, I'm assuming there will be streams available.)

19. zack posted on May 03, 2012 at 10:43 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

You're just pissed because Abruzzo is obviously so much more indie than yet another northern city-state.

20. Borussia, Du bist so wunderschön! (Mark Edward) posted on May 03, 2012 at 11:04 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Papa Cisse's goals really needed Alan Partridge doing the commentary. Holy f**k.

Oh man. I just watched that skit last night. Hilarious.

Shooty, what did you think of Kamil Glik's play for Torino this season? He was named to Poland's preliminary roster for the Euros. Polish fans seem to hate him, though Polish fans seemingly hate every Polish player not named Rafa Wolski*.

*- Admittedly Rafa Wolski is awesome.

21. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 03, 2012 at 11:36 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

You're just pissed because Abruzzo is obviously so much more indie than yet another northern city-state.

Meh. We'll just pay them off Castel di Sangro style.

Shooty, what did you think of Kamil Glik's play for Torino this season? He was named to Poland's preliminary roster for the Euros. Polish fans seem to hate him, though Polish fans seemingly hate every Polish player not named Rafa Wolski*.

Unfortunately, I really can't say. I've only been able to watch 6 or 7 of the games and, often when I do get a stream, it's tough to pick out the individual players. The only guys I've been able to form an opinion of are Bianchi and Ogbonna. Bianchi because he's always involved in the attack and Ogbonna--and it's embarassing to say this--because he's black and easy to pick out on a blurry stream. They really ####### need to get promoted so I can watch the games properly.

22. jmurph posted on May 03, 2012 at 12:03 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Bianchi was a perfectly cromulent player for pre-rich Manchester City. I was bummed when they let him go (at the time; things have obviously changed).

Plus he kills in the 2008 version of Football Manager I'm still playing.

23. PepTech posted on May 03, 2012 at 12:07 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

So it's no Cisse, but this was a pretty nice goal...I believe the kids these days call that "well struck".

24. Mattbert posted on May 03, 2012 at 12:55 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

That is what the kids these days call a thunderbastard.

And some ___________ defending.

25. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 03, 2012 at 01:06 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Kyle Walker signed a new 5 year deal with Spurs. I like it--as good as he is, he still can get a lot better. He sometimes puts his head down and just runs forward no matter what's going on around him and sometimes his crossing is laughably bad. He has a bit of a temper, too, which leads him to trying to become a one-man team. If he gets a little more savvy, he's going to be a killer RB. That free kick he took against Blackburn was the best one any Spurs player took this season. It was probably the best free kick I saw from any game this season, actually.

26. Mattbert posted on May 03, 2012 at 01:22 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It's the first time Spurs have scored a direct free kick in like two friggin' years, so yeah it was pretty much the best by definition.

I still think it caught a very slight deflection on the way over/around the wall, but it was a great hit nonetheless. Sort of like Benny's wonder goal against Everton.

27. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 03, 2012 at 03:28 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

West Ham taking it to Cardiff so far.

28. CWS Keith plans to boo your show at the Apollo posted on May 03, 2012 at 04:01 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Damn -- Marco Di Vaio might be coming to MLS (Montreal). Even at his age, that's a pretty sweet 'get' for the league.

29. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) posted on May 03, 2012 at 04:07 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

West Ham taking it to Cardiff so far.

Fear not, they'll blow it.

30. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) posted on May 03, 2012 at 04:49 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Nice win for West Ham, although it would be substantially nicer if they used the away goals rule in promotion playoffs. On the plus side, they rarely gave up more than 2 at home this year, so hopefully they can force extra time at the least.

31. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance posted on May 03, 2012 at 05:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Nice win for West Ham, although it would be substantially nicer if they used the away goals rule in promotion playoffs.

I keep repeating this, in the hopes that people will eventually pick it up, not holding my breath though:

The away goals rule does not work in your favour if you win the away leg to nil, even if you score 17 goals. If the away goals rule were in effect, there would be exactly zero ways for West Ham to advance on away goals.

32. Mattbert posted on May 03, 2012 at 09:45 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Oh dear, I just saw that Buffon miscue. High comedy.

33. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 04, 2012 at 12:07 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

A mixed bag for Liverpool's finances

With their new kit deal it seems the only way they're going to increase revenues relative to the other clubs going forward is to make the Champions League. On the other hand, FSG has done a good job eliminating debt and interest expense and getting rid of a lot of costs before FFP comes into effect. Hopefully Swiss Ramble will take their balance sheet and income statement apart. As it stand now they're closer to Tottenham and Man City in revenues than they are to Arsenal and Chelsea and Man U with Man City, of course, being a special case. Also, it seems like they're going to follow the Tottenham path of trying to make up for a relatively smaller stadium by ratcheting up ticket prices.

Oh, and hey, they play in kind of a big game tomorrow!

34. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 04, 2012 at 12:11 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I should have known Swiss Ramble would be on the case

35. DA Baracus is gritty and hits with RISP posted on May 04, 2012 at 12:18 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Swiss Ramble really needs to hit the More button in his posts. That front page is awful.

36. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 04, 2012 at 12:35 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Swiss Ramble really needs to hit the More button in his posts. That front page is awful.

Those are long articles, indeed. Whenever I read those articles about EPL teams, I'm always struck by just how awful Aston Villa's #'s are when he shows graphs of revenue and wages, etc. Be careful, Ellis Short, be very careful.

37. DA Baracus is gritty and hits with RISP posted on May 04, 2012 at 12:40 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I should say, I enjoy Swiss Ramble. But no one should have to hit the page down button 10 times or strain their finger on the mouse wheel to get to the second article on the page.

Whenever I read those articles about EPL teams, I'm always struck by just how awful Aston Villa's #'s are when he shows graphs of revenue and wages, etc.

Well, it's Randy Lerner. He's terrible at the whole "run a sports team" thing. He's one of those owners that an educated fan can realistically say they'd do a better job than.

38. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 04, 2012 at 12:40 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Flat out awesome.

Game of the year, so far, even without video.

39. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 04, 2012 at 12:42 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Well, it's Randy Lerner. He's terrible at the whole "run a sports team" thing. He's one of those owners that an educated fan can realistically say they'd do a better job than.

It must be nice to crap away that much money on a relegation battle...

40. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 04, 2012 at 12:49 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

You London/England folks...does Chelsea actually have a shot at buying the Battersea Power Station? It would be a hell of a venue for a stadium, but I imagine there could be a lot interesting non-sport uses for it, too.

41. ursus arctos posted on May 04, 2012 at 12:59 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

They've been trying to sell it for yonks.

The planning permission and renovation expense hurdles are very high, but it would be instantly iconic if they somehow pulled it off. HOK/Populous are supposed to have done some preliminary plans several years ago.

Swiss Ramble assumes that most readers print his pieces out, and is probably right about that.

42. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) posted on May 04, 2012 at 01:06 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Making a stadium out of Battersea would be awesome. According to Wikipedia, one of the more recent owners was "a consortium including Alton Towers Ltd, which proposed an indoor theme park, based around Britain's industrial history." That sounds like a pretty grim concept for a theme park.

43. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 04, 2012 at 01:11 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The planning permission and renovation expense hurdles are very high, but it would be instantly iconic if they somehow pulled it off. HOK/Populous are supposed to have done some preliminary plans several years ago.

It won't count against FFP, so I guess it's just a matter of how much money Abramovich wants to spend and if he's getting killed on his Russian oil stocks...Then again, if the man can afford a 600 million Euro yacht, he can probably throw a pittance at a venerable London fixer-upper.

44. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 04, 2012 at 01:12 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

That sounds like a pretty grim concept for a theme park.

Ooh, the Child Labor laser-light show would have been spectacular!

45. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on May 04, 2012 at 01:15 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

By the way, ursus, RB and I will definitely be at Kinsale's for the final weekend games. There could be 7 or 8 intriguing games going on at once.

46. Mattbert posted on May 04, 2012 at 01:16 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The planning permission and renovation expense hurdles are very high, but it would be instantly iconic if they somehow pulled it off.

My former employer has been involved at that site for quite some time, and I can confirm that those hurdles are indeed very high.

47. Mattbert posted on May 04, 2012 at 01:21 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It would be awesome if they kept the four stacks as the corners of a football ground there. Unfortunately, they are full of bats and, I believe, scheduled to be imploded at some point if they can ever get that through planning. Not sure if the footprint works anyway. Oh well. Maybe they could build replicas; a colossal waste of money...but cool!

48. ursus arctos posted on May 04, 2012 at 01:21 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Good to know gentlemen.

As I've decided not to go to Krakow for a firm thing, I may very well see you there.

49. DA Baracus is gritty and hits with RISP posted on May 04, 2012 at 02:01 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It must be nice to crap away that much money on a relegation battle...

I guess he doesn't want to play favorites between Aston Villa and the Browns.

50. Biff, highly-regarded young guy posted on May 04, 2012 at 04:38 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Blackpool should have scored way more than 1 goal in that game. Hope it doesn't come back to bite them in the return leg.

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