Wednesday, April 17, 2013
Chris Getz removes name from list of homerless streaks
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posted on April 17, 2013 at 10:55 AM by RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) to ben revere, chris getz, home runs, phillies, royals, steroids, streaks
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Read More...On Tuesday night against Atlanta, Royals second baseman Chris Getz did this for the first time since 2009, for the first time in 954 at-bats ...
That would be third home run of his career, which to date spans 1,350 plate appearances.
Getz’s rare clout calls to mind current notable homerless streaks—a list from which Getz has, of course, just removed himself. Here’s the rundown from FoxSports Kansas City’s Joel Goldberg:
Ben Revere it is! Revere, it should be noted, has no ...
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1 2 3 >Any good Cooperstown prospects on the horizon, aged 2 or younger?
With sports parents these days, 2-year olds are probably already on HGH.
Has MLB started testing for HGH yet?
Why would that be dickish? A DL stint shouldn't allow you to avoid your suspension.
Freddy Galvis sneaked through this loophole last year. I don't think they've closed it. MLB would be walking into an unwinnable grievance.
What does the agreement say about this type of issue? If a guy is on the DL when his positive test result comes back, does the suspension overlap or must it wait until he's on the active roster?
Is there a procedure for punishing players who haven't failed tests?
EDIT: Looks like minor league, though reports at the time conflicted. Here's a quote from one article:
edit: Guess I'm wrong. MLB transactions say Schafer was optioned in March 08, but I think that's a mistake and he wasn't added to the roster until 2009.
It says only games that he would have otherwise been eligible to play count.
And another part discusses whether an injured player can be eligible:
So it sounds like any game he's too injured to reasonably play in wouldn't count toward his suspension. One could argue that the "reasonable" standard only applies to postseason games and that leaving him off the DL makes him eligible--but I doubt MLB would accept that interpretation.
Manny didn't have his suspension run when he was "retired", he still has to sit out 50 games or whatever it is if he ever comes back. I know its not exactly the same, but the principle seems similar.
What about guys suspended for beanball stuff? The DL doesn't save them from suspensions, does it?
If they could suspend these guys, they would have suspended Ryan Braun. I don't see how any suspension based on this evidence would hold up to a challenge by the MLBPA.
Correct.
Honestly, I think there should be a difference. Manny should have had to sit before he came back, but if you nail a guy when he happens to be on the DL, that just seems like good fortune.
Yep, good call.
Or it allows a guy to use whatever he wants while he's recovering from TJS.
and freddy galvis' positive test for using a vaginal suppository (seriously, that really IS what the stuff is) came after he was already injured. i guess he had sand in his vagina all right. seeing as how his stats and his body really changed all righty
I suspect the procedural protections aren't anywhere near as strong for minor leaguers, though.
Although I despise of steriod and HGH use and firmly beleive that any of these people should not be allowed to play. They haven't flunked a test? When they do they should be penalized more harshly.
I do not think that baseball can do anything about this, unless the player admits.
AROD and Cruz bought the stuff for a friend. That is what they will say, and has gotten many athletes off in all sports.
Actually, Galvis' power has advanced as he has. And he got bigger. Maybe it's natural, maybe not. He's gone from a guy whose bat would keep him from ever sniffing the majors to a guy sniffing the majors. Those are the guys with the biggest incentives to cheat in my opinion.
I do not think that baseball can do anything about this, unless the player admits.
AROD and Cruz bought the stuff for a friend. That is what they will say, and has gotten many athletes off in all sports.
There has to be some non-test evidence admissible. I mean, if they catch a guy with it in his locker, or records surface showing regular steroid injections at one of these "clinics" I can't see how that's not admissible.
Albatross Rodriguez--completely unsurprising. He is a pretty compelling argument for having some provisions to allow teams to void long-term contracts.
I am disappointed to hear about Nelson Cruz. Innocent until proven guilty and all, but in retrospect, I guess it's not that surprising that a late-blooming AAAA hitter who is completely jacked might have had some help.
So the most pressing issue: whither the Boomstick?
EDIT: I'm sure the Yankees' insurer of A-Rod's deal will be very curious about this as well.
Will wait for more information before drawing any conclusions, however.
All the evidence against Braun was analytical so far as I know. If you establish a procedure regarding analytical suspensions you can't just circumvent it with a catch-all clause. Standard interpretation of agreements requires that the specific controls over the general language.
I don't know. It would be too easy for an outside party to arrange that evidence. A clinic could just make up a schedule. Maybe they're fans of (or paid by) an opposing team and want to get a player suspended. A team could slip something into a player's locker. Especially if voiding a horrible contract is on the line.
Yea, but like ColonelTom says in #28, that "analytical" test applies to A-Rod, Nelson Cruz and the others who presumably are tested throughout the year and presumably passed. You can't say they passed the test, then come back and say, "but we have some evidence against you anyway."
And like #37 says, they just bought it to help their dad lose weight. You can't prove they used it themselves.
Good news for MLB: This is during Super Bowl week, so most people won't even notice.
I agree Pops, players are protected more than years ago. MLBPA was not around for the Black Sox scandal in 1919. A "Back to Future" movie pitting the MLBPA and Keenisaw Mountain Landis would be interesting.
It once was not uncommon for philosophers to write hypothetical conversations between noted figures who otherwise never would have met.
A conversation between Landis and Marvin Miller would be great.
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