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posted on January 15, 2012 at 02:52 PM by The District Attorney to angels, arizona, astros, athletics, blue jays, braves, brewers, cardinals, cubs, dodgers, expos, giants, indians, mariners, mets, miami, nationals, orioles, padres, phillies, pirates, rangers, rays, red sox, reds, rockies, royals, rumors, teams, tigers, twins, white sox, yankees | 33 comment(s)

Bartolo Colon has agreed to a deal with an unknown club reports Bob Nightengale of USA Today (on Twitter). The right-hander wouldn’t divulge the team because he has not yet passed his physical.

Pretty sure it’s either the All-Stars or the Champs.

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1. Joey B. has ignited his October #Natitude posted on April 28, 2010 at 07:18 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Indians? The Reds? Sorry, but I question the methodology of this "algorithm".

2. Blackadder posted on April 28, 2010 at 07:21 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

This has plenty of obvious problems--selection bias, fans of bad teams writing negative things, etc. Still, I am not surprised to see the Red Sox so high; like in so many other things, they have been very quickly approaching the Yankees in terms of overall hated-ness.

3. Spivey posted on April 28, 2010 at 07:23 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

There's a fine line between being hated by your fans and fans of other teams.

4. AROM posted on April 28, 2010 at 07:23 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The hate must be coming from Indian fans. I wonder how many groundskeepers are contributing to this ("they're shitti").

5. JoeHova posted on April 28, 2010 at 07:23 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I wonder, could the Indians be #1 because of negative reaction to their logo/name?

6. BDC

posted on April 28, 2010 at 07:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Can they really identify the reactions of people to baseball teams, or do reactions to the words themselves interfere? People might be hating on Red things, or Indians, or New York or Washington.

Conversely, the two most loved teams are the Giants and the A's. Everybody likes friendly giants! Everybody likes getting A's!

7. SoSH U at work posted on April 28, 2010 at 07:25 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

This has plenty of obvious problems--selection bias, fans of bad teams writing negative things, etc. Still, I am not surprised to see the Red Sox so high; like in so many other things, they have been very quickly approaching the Yankees in terms of overall hated-ness.

Oh, no doubt. But the idea that Ohio's teams are 1 and 3 on the most hated list is absurd. The list probably goes 1-2 Yankees, Red Sox in whatever order, (big gap), 3-7, Cubs, Mets, Dodgers, Phillies, Cardinals in some order. Pretty much the same order as most liked.

8. tonynyc posted on April 28, 2010 at 07:28 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Good points by JoeyB and Blackadder. I wouldn't give much cred to this so-called analysis. The algorithm looks seriously flawed. Clearly picks up fans expressing frustration with their teams, etc. This kind of term search analysis is being used in interesting ways on the Internet, but I suspect the Neilsen geeks don't understand baseball.

9. Blackadder posted on April 28, 2010 at 07:41 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

But the idea that Ohio's teams are 1 and 3 on the most hated list is absurd.

Totally agree. What is pretty clearly going on there is that, of people who express an opinion about those teams, the proportion that are negative is very high. I think this also at least partially explains the Red Sox being quite a bit above the Yankees; even given all of the recent changes, Red Sox fans are still more prone to self-flagellation than Yankees fans. I also agree with your list.

10. Hang down your head, Tom Foley posted on April 28, 2010 at 07:44 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

My hatred of this index makes the Indians less hated.

11. Gamingboy posted on April 28, 2010 at 07:46 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Algorithim is flawed and is likely working with no context. For example, the "despisement" of the Indians (as said earlier) probably can be chalked up to the things with the problems of their name. The Reds is likely the result of how many other meanings of "Reds" there are. And of course there is, as mentioned, the fact that sometimes the most hatred for teams comes from their own fans.

12. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on April 28, 2010 at 07:47 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Well, this is stupid.

13. jwb posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:15 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The only way this makes sense is if the fans of each team were "surveyed." Fans of every team in the top 10 may have a legitimate complaint about how their team is being run or its performance. The Giants and A's are exceeding expectations, so their fans are happy.

14. depletion posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:19 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

What can I, as a Mets fan, do to help push them over the top and ahead of the Indians?

15. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The hate must be coming from Indian fans.

As a Pittsburgher, I have no trouble at all believing that right-thinking people would hate Cleveland.

16. Meatwad denied pope, reveals he faked it at mass posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:30 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

how much of this is because of Bernal?

17. My Grate Friend, Peason posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:30 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I feel BTF shame for posting this now.

18. depletion posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:39 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

edited for television
When in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state,
And trouble deaf Heaven with my bootless cries,
And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featur'd like him, like him with friends possess'd,
Desiring this man's art, and that man's scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least:

19. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:42 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It never occurred to me to hate the Indians. I hate:

1a. YankeesRedSox (they are fun to hate, so I don't know if it really counts)
1b. Twins
2. Rangers
3. Mariners
4. Giants.
I would like to hate the Angels, but I grudgingly respect them.

20. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:46 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Oh look, another example of the new fad in sportswriting. It goes like this:

1) Find something that's true.
2) Say that it's not.
3) Reap site hits.

Rinse, repeat. If we don't want more articles like this, we should probably stop clicking on them.

21. Austin Kearns: The Spy Who Shagged Flies posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:53 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Just in case Nielsen is watching:

I am seriously concerned about a new rise of communism in government. These darned Reds are sending this country to the dogs (much like that irritating Astro on the Jetsons). If we let these idiots in Washington do what they want, we might as well give this country back to the Indians.

That oughta help the Yankees and Red Sox in the ratings.

22. geonose posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:54 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Nationals? How and why would anybody hate the Nationals?

23. Spivey posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:59 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

24. Biscuit_pants posted on April 28, 2010 at 08:59 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Nationals? How and why would anybody hate the Nationals?
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They just took 2 of three from the Cubs?

25. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama

posted on April 28, 2010 at 09:17 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Conversely, the two most loved teams are the Giants and the A's. Everybody likes friendly giants! Everybody likes getting A's!

If there was also a team called the Ts, would more people like Ts or As?

This has to be a stupid, stupid algorithm.

26. Randy Jones

posted on April 28, 2010 at 09:21 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

This has to be a stupid, stupid algorithm.

There are no stupid algorithms, only stupid people.

27. Van Lingle Mungo Jerry posted on April 28, 2010 at 09:32 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

As of 4:00 this afternoon, I nominate Trevor Hoffman as the most hated team in baseball.

28. JPWF13

posted on April 28, 2010 at 09:37 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It never occurred to me to hate the Indians. I hate:

1a. YankeesRedSox (they are fun to hate, so I don't know if it really counts)
1b. Twins
2. Rangers
3. Mariners
4. Giants.
I would like to hate th

I hate:

1a; Yankees
1b; Redsox
gap
2; Phillies
gap
3; Mets (and I'm fan)
4; Bud Selig
5; LA Sportswriters

29. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) posted on April 28, 2010 at 09:56 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

How and why would anybody hate the Nationals?

Their name is stupid. It sounds like an airport.

30. Athletic Supporter gangnam style posted on April 28, 2010 at 10:27 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

They seem to imply that this is not a list of the most gross hated teams (insert David Wells joke here), but the list of the most net hated teams. So obviously there are a ton of Yankee/Red Sox fans, who are increasing their average ratings, while what they are really trying to measure would not consider the number of positive references at all.

31. WillYoung posted on April 28, 2010 at 10:56 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Don't forget, this is the same paper whose algorithm named Kevin McHale the best GM in all of sports.

32. Hack Wilson posted on April 28, 2010 at 10:58 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

For me:
1. Mets
2. Mets
3. Mets
4. Yankees/Red Sux
5. Nobody else-hate is not good

33. Swedish Chef posted on April 28, 2010 at 11:01 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

There are no stupid algorithms, only stupid people.

There are stupid algorithms, like the one in my mp3 player that insists on playing "Born to be wild" twice a day despite having thousands of songs to choose from. Anything that digs classic rock that much has to be stupid by definition.

34. Steve Phillips' Hot Cougar (DrStankus) posted on April 28, 2010 at 11:02 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Giants and A's are exceeding expectations, so their fans are happy.

I'm happy? Hell no.

I'm ticked that the pitching is so awesome and the offense is so ####-tastic

35. thread killer posted on April 28, 2010 at 11:08 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

For me:

1. Yankees
2. Red Sox
3. Giants
4. Angels
5. Team LaRussa.

36. God posted on April 28, 2010 at 11:58 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

1. Yankees
2. Giants
3. Red Sox
4. Phillies
5. Mets

37. mashimaro posted on April 29, 2010 at 12:43 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

1. Yankees

End of List

38. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on April 29, 2010 at 12:45 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

1. Yankees
2. Braves
3. Marlins
4. Red Sox
5. Dodgers

39. Orange & Blue Velvet posted on April 29, 2010 at 12:52 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

1. Yankees
2. Phillies
3. Marlins
4. Cardinals
5. Braves

40. SoSHially Unacceptable posted on April 29, 2010 at 12:56 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

1. Yankees
Chasm
2. Dodgers
3. A's
4. Cardinals
5. Braves

41. Steve Phillips' Hot Cougar (DrStankus) posted on April 29, 2010 at 01:28 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Every algorithm is stupid. That's the point, it just dumbly iterates over your information with what ever process you've determined. It is selecting the correct algorithm and making adjustments where smarts comes in.
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42. AROM posted on April 29, 2010 at 01:30 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Don't forget, this is the same paper whose algorithm named Kevin McHale the best GM in all of sports.

I can buy that. He's the guy who brought Kevin Garnett to the Celtics.

43. VoodooR posted on April 29, 2010 at 02:16 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

1. Cardinals
2. Yankees
3. White Sox
4. Red Sox
5. Marlins

44. Cuban X Senators posted on April 29, 2010 at 02:31 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

1. Yankees
2. Red Sox

I spend all my hatred there. Been the same for over 30 years.

45. Infinite Joost (Voxter)

posted on April 29, 2010 at 03:55 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

There is only one fixed position on my list of hated teams:

1. Yankees.

After that, it's all dependent on who is good, who the Red Sox have come up against in the playoffs a lot, which personnel is on what team, what kind of obnoxious media attention of one kind or another any given team might get. So currently, it goes like this:

2. Angels, which team I used to root for because Scioscia was my favorite player as a kid.
3. Phillies, because I find thier success annoying.

At various times, other teams have been on this list. The Indians (played them in the playoffs a lot), the Devil Rays (beanball wars with Pedro and Daubach and they sucked so I felt like they should just take their lickings and like it), the White Sox (for erroneous media coverage and Hawk Harrelson), the Twins (tiresome media coverage about how they were anti-moneyball), the Astros (can't remember why), and others. It's constantly shifting.

46. Dale Sams posted on April 29, 2010 at 04:40 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

1. Yankee Fans
2. Red Sox fans
3. A.J. Pierzynski

47. Snowboy posted on April 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Hatred Index
Using an algorithm designed by Nielsen Co. that measures positive and negative reactions on the Internet, here are the 10 most despised teams in baseball (scale is -5 to 5)

And none of the teams are below zero? They all have positive integers?
Well then, instead of a Hatred Index (obviously no teams are really hated, all +), consider this a Love Index.
Now CLE CIN HOU...not so loved these days by their fans. BOS NYY are heavily watched; they are loved by many, but some of that is evened out by enmity or criticism.

Washington? Well, remember you do have the entire nation of Canada plotting its revenge. 25 million internet users in a population of 33 million people. [Puts down sipping glass of maple syrup to thoughtfully twist moustache; tosses head, chuckles to self]

MON DIEU! Delete delete dele...aahhh

48. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The Ship

posted on April 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Washington? Well, remember you do have the entire nation of Canada plotting its revenge. 25 million internet users in a population of 33 million people. [Puts down sipping glass of maple syrup to thoughtfully twist moustache; tosses head, chuckles to self]

Not to mention the entire Republican Party.

49. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The Ship

posted on April 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Yankee fans don't have any hates, only sympathetic understandings of the less fortunate:

1. Orioles
2. Blue Jays
3. The National League

50. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama

posted on April 29, 2010 at 11:38 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Phillies, because I find thier success annoying.

You must be a Cleveland fan to be jealous of 2 World Championships in 137 years. :)

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