Gallagher says screw you, pal.

Ever seen the Chappelle "Black Gallagher" bit?

Homer: Hey! We owe this guy, and I don't want you calling him a sissy! This guy's a fruit! And a... no, wait, wait, wait... queer! Queer! (to John) That's what you like to be called, right?

John: Well, that or John

That El Nuevo Caridad place is awesome. I am so going there the next time I'm in New York.

You have looked like a parody for awhile; this ices it. You are in the True Blue/Phenomenal Smith group.

You are obviously (overly sensitive) not familiar with the author of "Stuff White People Like". He is a liberal and himself admits that most of the stuff in the two books (and website) captured the white liberal. That's most, not all. This is a real book, with a real author and he really does pin the white liberal.

You are obviously (overly sensitive) not familiar with the author of "Stuff White People Like". He is a liberal and himself admits that most of the stuff in the two books (and website) captured the white liberal. That's most, not all. This is a real book, with a real author and he really does pin the white liberal.

You're making too many assumptions. One of the reasons you come off like a parody.

I know about the book; some of the parts I am familiar with are pretty funny.

This white dude, for one, would die for some rice, beans and pollo al horno. Really any "comida tipica" place would work. I moved to Seattle after many years in New York. Needless to say I'm a bit underwhelmed with my options.

I don't see anything wrong with the comment.

You know me, Marge. I like my beer cold, my TV loud and my homosexuals fa-laming.

Same with ethnic/racial/sex stereotypes.

Homer: That John is the greatest guy in the world. We've gotta have him
and his wife over for drinks sometime.
Marge: Hmm, I don't think he's married, Homer.
Homer: Oh, a swinging bachelor, eh? Well, there's lots of foxy ladies
out there.
Marge: Homer, didn't John seem a little... festive to you?
Homer: Couldn't agree more. Happy as a clam.
Marge: [insisting] He prefers the company of men!
Homer: Who doesn't?

I blame the decline of the steel industry in Detroit.

Moe: "Where you been, Homer? The whole steel industry's gay."

If you guys don't know what Cajuns and Creoles do with rice, you don't #### about eating with rice. Rice, like potatoes, is nothing--it's what you put on it or in it. Cajuns have about a million sauces, gumbos, etouffees, creoles, fricassees, stews, soups, bouillons, courtbouillons, bouilles, and just plain gravies made naturally from reducing braising meat drippings. And that's not even getting into the New Orleans haute cuisine French stuff. I'm just talking ethnic provincial.

What is an "etouffee?" I have heard of all those other ones (even "soup.")

Etouffee

You're making too many assumptions.

Such as? You make too many claims.

I'm eating rice right now but it is with orange chicken.

My wife is from P.R. but she does not make rice & beans because I don't like beans, dammit.

I'm eating rice right now but it is with orange chicken.

Racist bastard.

That Joe Cuba song rules.

47. Joe Bivens, Always Wrong, About Everything! Posted: July 22, 2011 at 07:33 PM (#3883548)
I make a good rice and beans dish. Sauteed onions and garlic and red bell pepper, cayenne pepper, thyme, vegetable stock. It takes 45 minutes or so from beginning to end. Yum!

That's some curious food combining there. Your cooking sounds as appealing as your scrotum.

Just in the past month, we've had threads on Ray Knight, Bobby Valentine, and Rod Allen. It's getting harder and harder to tell if the authors of these types of articles are genuinely offended by comments like Allen's or if they just know such controversies, as trumped up as they might be, are a guaranteed source of easy clicks and page views.

Whether you find Rod Allen's comment "racist" or not seems to say more about you than it does about him. I think it's pretty clear that he had zero malicious intent. I mean, Allen has been in professional baseball for 35 years, so he's obviously spent a lot of time around Latinos. He spent two years in the Mexican League (and three in Japan), so it's not like he's some ignorant 'Murica-First yokel. And his public persona, what we glimpse of him through broadcasts, is definitely of the "nice guy, likes everyone" type.

I guarantee Rod Allen was not thinking, "Latinos — they're so poor they have to eat rice and beans all the time! Ha ha!" He was probably thinking, "I've met a lot of Latinos and I've spent time in Latin America, and boy they sure like to eat rice and beans." It's a stereotype, but I don't see what's negative about it.

If the Tigers had a bunch of Korean players and Allen said, "They’re gonna have to get some kimchi for the postgame spread tonight," would that be offensive? I wouldn't think so. I mean, if he said "They're gonna have to get some dog for the postgame spread tonight," that would be, at least in America, where dog-eating is an unforgivable sin.

But when you're talking about a food that is popular in pretty much all the countries these guys are from, and isn't something that is widely considered "disgusting" or "immoral," I don't see the problem.

Such as?

That no one is offended except "white liberals"; that I had never heard of the "white people" books/website, for starters. And a few more.

Whether you find Rod Allen's comment "racist" or not seems to say more about you than it does about him

Perhaps. I don't think it was racist, but making generalizations/jokes based on race/ethnicity in public settings isn't a very good idea. As noted in most of these threads, these issues are context-dependent. That's why the anologies ("But what about if he said????") people always make generally don't work.

Spike up in 48 pretty much nailed it.

Just in the past month, we've had threads on Ray Knight, Bobby Valentine, and Rod Allen. It's getting harder and harder to tell if the authors of these types of articles are genuinely offended by comments like Allen's or if they just know such controversies, as trumped up as they might be, are a guaranteed source of easy clicks and page views.

Probably just page views. I mean, Repoz posted it. I will join the chorus of posters who don't see what's so bad about rice and beans. I could really go for some rice and beans right now, actually.

Probably just page views. I mean, Repoz posted it.

Ha ha. I was talking about the actual authors, but Repoz is indeed an evil genius when it comes to topic selection.

The problem with "PC" is there are casualties. People have to pay, and sometimes pay severely, for not (often unintentionally) playing to requisite perfection "Mother, May I" and "Simon Says" as dictated by the lords who dictate what should pass for chic. If you're fine with that, okay. If you think it just a joke to stigmatize and punish people (that's what it is), okay. But, to me, that sort of thing is just as offensive and as dangerous as the thing it sanctimoniously pretends to be correcting.

Moreover, it inhibits social discourse big time (which is, of course, its intent). It's a rank power-play camouflaged in oleaginous hypocrisy. If rape is not about sex, but about violence (which I think is stupid half-ass assessment, but anyway), this is not about tolerance and rapprochement; it's just one more shoddy brutish way of getting your way in a way that is unjustified and, really, unexplained, of controlling the "other" by acting in the same manner as that which supposedly outrages your precious sensibilities. It exonerates those repressive mentalities ahead of time and gives that same puny mindset permission to act and think just like that which it pretends to deplore.

Anyway, whatever you think, one thing is certain; one thing is a fact: it suppresses, and conduces to suppress, expression and speech on the basis of that most tenuous of pretexts--offensiveness, what I would term, for the most part, phony and candy-ass sensitivities. Make no mistake, there are those who profit by drawing a line where it’s drawn and by seeking to keep edging forward. We should find that some work so really hard to justify and excuse such kneejerk overreactions and promote such repressive efforts a little frightening. At the very least.

I love Rice and beans, apparently I'm now Latino

Edit:

White people like Mayonnaise

Here's what happened a couple of months ago: I was at the local "hot-fry" outdoor restaurant in Taipei with two of my buddies drinking beer, and they have these scantily-dressed ladies promoting different beer brands. We had this thing of Fried Shrimp (and for some reason it had Mayonaise on it), and I kept trying to get off the Mayo off the shrimp.

One of the scantily-clad ladies kept asking me why I wouldn't eat the Mayo. First, I told her I didn't like it. She didn't get it. Then I gave her this a minute monologue about how Mayo is food for socioeconomically disadvantaged Caucasian North Americans, and she still didn't get it. Finally, I just ####### gave up and told her "I don't know how I can help you", which in psychiatrist-speak means "YOU HOPELESS ##### #### OFF"

The blog was attempting to show that white guys aren't the only ones guilty of perpetuating a stereotype or saying something that can be perceived as ignorant.

I think it fails because I don't think what Allen said was offensive to begin with - I think if the comments were 'opened up' for this entry at Big League Stew, people would be telling David Brown to get a life.

@ 72, you're not a Foucauldian paragraph generator are you?

Goodness, read "Invisible Man" and then get back to me on what it's like to have your entire life stigmatized, organized and bent against you. White men can't be the other, don't you get it? We are the ####### subject. No PC police gonna change that. You're worrying about a shingle falling off the roof when the whole damn thing is on fire!

Chief Wahoo.
Tomahawk Chop*

My work here is done.


*According to Wiki, Deion Sanders started the Tomahawk Chop in Atlanta. I did not know that.

Of all the ####### threads for me to read on a night in which an afternoon of abdominal pain left me too damned sore to eat anything except a couple of bananas ... *siiiiiigh*

Wasn't FSU doing that before the Braves?

Get well, gef. The Mekons need you to help keep their memory alive for future generations.

and for some reason it had Mayonaise on it

You sure that wasn't tartar sauce?

"Let the fools have their tar-tar sauce."

Or: "ketchup.....catsup......ketchup.....catsup......I'm in way over my head here."

Says Deion got it from FSU.

Says Deion got it from FSU.

Right. Braves fans started doing it for Deion, then it took on a life of it's own. It's fair to say that the Braves stole it from Florida State and Deion Sanders was the conduit.

Anyway, I'm white, my wife is Latino. When we go to her family's house for Thanksgiving we have turkey with rice and beans, at my family's house we have turkey with mashed potatoes. It's not racist or a sign of economic status, it's a sign that white folks grew up eating potatoes and latinos grew up eating rice and beans. Who cares. I'd take the rice and beans every time frankly.

Oh and the correct answer to the question of what's the best rice and beans is Belizian style. Just go easy on the coconut milk.

I'm Irish and Hungarian and I don't like cabbage very much.

I'm not sure how to explain that. Maybe if I put some mayonnaise on it...

the best rice and beans is Belizian style.

Right. I said Cuban black beans earlier, but I actually ate them in Belize.

There's a Belizian restaurant in Regina, Saskatchewan, sadly for all six years I lived there there was a piece of paper with "Closed, in Belize" written on it. I really wanted to try that stuff.

A friend of mine runs a speciality dairy factory in Ontario and one of the perks of going on delivery with him is you get to sample the wares of a bunch of mom and pop style restaurants and shops in Toronto. There's one El Salvadorian place in Scarborough beside a porn shop in a strip mall that has pupusas to die for. I don't know how El Salvadorians aren't all 300 pounds.

If the Tigers had a bunch of Korean players and Allen said, "They’re gonna have to get some kimchi for the postgame spread tonight," would that be offensive?

Yes, yes it is. Kimchi is offensive. If you don't believe me, try using the bathroom, after somebody whp had previously consumed kimchi has been in it...

Your cooking sounds as appealing as your scrotum.

Why, thank you, kind sir!

As a bona fide white person, I can attest that mayonnaise is ####### disgusting.

beside a porn shop in a strip mall

An entire mall? You'd better bring a LOT of dollar bills!

An entire mall? You'd better bring a LOT of dollar bills!

Unfortunately it's in Canada, so the lowest bill available is a 5.

Actually now that I think about it how does that effect strippers? Or is the old "One Dollar Bill" line just a gag. It doesn't seem too classy to hand a young lady a twoonie for her hard work.

"Just go easy on the coconut milk. "

Why? Coconut milk (including rice cooked with it) is delicious.

Actually now that I think about it how does that effect strippers? Or is the old "One Dollar Bill" line just a gag. It doesn't seem too classy to hand a young lady a twoonie for her hard work.

I went to a strip club in Montreal once. Full contact lap dances were $10 Canadian for one song, and this was back when the dollar was strong against the Canadian dollar. I'm not a strip club guy...at all...but I was 22 at the time, single, with no financial responsibilities and plenty of spare cash...I have to admit it was totally awesome.

I'm not a strip club guy...at all...but

Ranks right up there with buying Playboy for the articles. :)

Yes I admit it does ring rather hollow.

I'm eating leftovers for breakfast as I'm reading this - coincidentally, it's coconut rice with black beans, with some chili lime chicken tossed in for good measure - and it tastes tremendous.

We are a nothing if not flatulent around here...

Get well, gef. The Mekons need you to help keep their memory alive for future generations.

Thanks, rr. I should've known better than to have the audacity to eat food with a bit of heft, as it were, earlier in the week (cookout fare at work Wednesday at a going-away event, followed by some coleslaw left over the next day). These days, I can see why my mother, who wound up dying of colon cancer when she was about 5 years older than I am now (a fate, as I've whined before, that I'm pretty much resigned to as well, given all my stupid midsection-oriented issues), had to subsist on baby food during college.

Jesus.

In a complete change of subject, I think I saw a mention recently of something upcoming from the Mekes. Must follow up on that. Can't say I've been blown away by their last couple of outings, but Journey to the End of Night -- one of whose songs I see you cited on the U2 thread -- was absolutely breathtaking. (Shamefully, I'm at least one album behind for both the Wacos & Langford solo ...)

Are there any non-pale faces that are offended by the quote or is this just a pale face thang?

Are there any non-pale faces that are offended by the quote or is this just a pale face thang?

There are a lot of pale-faces in Puerto Rico.

Are there any non-pale faces that are offended by the quote or is this just a pale face thang?

There are a lot of pale-faces in Puerto Rico.

Is this an answer, or is it more like "my cats breath smells like cat food"?