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Sunday, April 21, 2013

Would Cards trade Taveras for Profar? : Sports

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posted on April 21, 2013 at 08:56 AM by Jim Furtado to cardinals, jurickson profar, rangers, trade rumors | 37 comment(s)

Somebody is going to get traded eventually. When you have surplus in one area and a shortage in another, it’s the only sensible thing to do.

“I understand why people connect the shortstop-outfielder and on a low level find a way for that to help both teams,” Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak said Friday. “But the reality is we have just gotten to the point we wanted with our farm system — with more elite talent back and set to contribute to the major-league club. I’m not in the ...

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51. jmurph posted on August 24, 2012 at 04:56 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

If this ends with Boston pulling back Beckett, I might honestly write them off for good. I'm of the opinion that the man has his uses, but seriously, that's a lot of money over the next two years.

Side note: do the Dodgers not know how this works? You don't need to actually claim a guy like Beckett, he's going to clear waivers if you don't.

EDIT: Just for the record, I've found it impossible to actually write teams off that I was born with, so this is just hyperbole on my part.

52. Swedish Chef posted on August 24, 2012 at 04:57 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I may be wrong but the 10-5 doesn't matter if the Sox simply let him walk. If they get so much as a box used rosin bags in return it's a trade and he can veto but I don't think there is any rule against a player being waived.

They have to pay off his contract to do that.

53. Swedish Chef posted on August 24, 2012 at 04:59 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Side note: do the Dodgers not know how this works? You don't need to actually claim a guy like Beckett, he's going to clear waivers if you don't.

Maybe they are trying to block him from going to the Giants or something, like when the White Sox ended up with Rios.

54. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit posted on August 24, 2012 at 05:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Thanks Chef, I didn't realize that.

55. jmurph posted on August 24, 2012 at 05:07 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Beckett was quoted a few weeks ago saying something to the effect of he doesn't want a trade, but if he's not wanted, he can't imagine blocking a trade. We'll see, I suppose. You can forgive a guy for wanting to say.

56. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee posted on August 24, 2012 at 05:34 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Possible deal for Punto and spare parts to the Dodgers...

Gordon Edes ?@GordonEdes
Blockbuster: red Sox, Dodgers working on deal that would send AGon, Crawford, Beckett and Punto to LA. Hurdles remain, but closing in

57. JJ1986 posted on August 24, 2012 at 05:36 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

So, the Dodgers have a basically unlimited budget, huh?

58. The Yankee Clapper posted on August 24, 2012 at 06:01 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Gordon Edes ?@GordonEdes
Blockbuster: red Sox, Dodgers working on deal that would send AGon, Crawford, Beckett and Punto to LA. Hurdles remain, but closing in

That would be pretty much starting all over. Lots of money, saved but I'm not sure there is any place to put it right away that would make the Red Sox contenders. The owners could pocket the cash, too, although I suspect there would be some dissent in Red Sox Nation.

59. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius posted on August 24, 2012 at 06:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Eh. With Buchholz and Dubront, they're 2 starters away from contending. They need to re-sign Ellsbury, too. I'd like them to keep Saltalamonkeyface.

60. Cowboy Popup posted on August 24, 2012 at 06:16 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Eh. With Buchholz and Dubront, they're 2 starters away from contending.

So they go into the offseason with no LFer, no 1st baseman, no SS and needing two starters who probably need to be #2 or #3 quality. They will have a ton of cash, but that looks like restarting to me. Do they have a lot of talent ready to go in AAA? I don't recall them being loaded, but I haven't followed the minors that closely this year.

61. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius posted on August 24, 2012 at 06:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

They's be clearing close to 300 million from the payroll. They can find 4 players to get them into contention fairly quickly with that money.

62. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius posted on August 24, 2012 at 06:33 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'd go after Shields, Edwin Jackson and Grienke. Napoli to play first. And, if they really want to make a splash, Josh Hamilton to play LF. They'd spend maybe 400 million, total, but so what.

63. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee posted on August 24, 2012 at 06:35 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Do they have a lot of talent ready to go in AAA? I don't recall them being loaded, but I haven't followed the minors that closely this year.

Not really. They've got some interesting guys, but they'll all probably at least year or so away.

64. Answer Guy posted on August 24, 2012 at 06:40 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Not if that talent isn't available on the open market.

65. The George Sherrill Selection posted on August 24, 2012 at 07:09 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Mariners could part with Chone Figgins for the right price.

66. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on August 24, 2012 at 07:39 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

"Growing possibility"--that's a classic Edes term. The possibility could have grown from 1% to 99%, 10% to 11%, or by any other amount. No chance of getting that one wrong!

The real question is, is the rate of the growth of the possibility accelerating, or are we approaching a plateau?

67. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige posted on August 24, 2012 at 07:59 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Is it short-sighted for this yanks fan to hope this is happening?

68. Jason Robar posted on August 24, 2012 at 10:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Who the ### is doing that? You are completely overreacting to some LA fan boy trade proposal, that has a negative probability of actually happening.

Um...

69. God posted on August 25, 2012 at 05:07 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Just giving this thread a bump because comment #1 was so awesomely, beautifully wrong.

70. Lassus posted on August 25, 2012 at 08:00 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Fancy Pants' pants weren't so fancy in #24 either.

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