You can find Bud Light in bars but a lot of bars don't bother carrying Budweiser. For functions I probably sell 6 to 7 times more Bud Light than Bud and often more than that.

Coors is like that too. It seems like no one drinks the non light version.

this may be off topic, but those commercials for CTU (I think it's Colorado Technical Institute) make me want to go postal. They have these punks continually saying "I don't WANT a JOB like EVERYONE ELSE". I'm not interested in a SCHOOL where I have to LISTEN to an instructor". I want to take the self-absorbed little SOBs and feed them to the geico lizard.

I loathe the Budweiser commercials, primarily because nobody I've ever met has wanted to order a budweiser from anywhere.

Though it rarely happens, there have been times when I have ordered Bud at some awful bar because it was the best option. The other options were of course something like Bud Light and Coors Light.

I loathe the Budweiser commercials, primarily because nobody I've ever met has wanted to order a budweiser from anywhere.

Isn't Budweiser the best selling beer? I detect some elitism here at BBTF. Shocking.

Though it rarely happens, there have been times when I have ordered Bud at some awful bar because it was the best option. The other options were of course something like Bud Light and Coors Light.

Yep I've been to a few places like that.


Budweiser is my beer of choice when I'm mowing grass, cutting brush, or doing any outdoors general property maintenance. It's cheap, light but not too light, has a tolerable taste, and perfect for having a few while working outdoors without getting too buzzed.

For ubiquitous beers I go Yuengling, MGD, Stella, and after that I'm in trouble if they don't have any of those options.

Two years ago, they were starting to think about having kids, but that all went on the side when she was first diagnosed, and the upstairs bedroom with the little bears and balloons on the wallpaper is an unspoken wound in the fabric of their day-to-day lives.

This bit doesn't work, because there's the second ad where the husband is trying to speak to his kid about the "DVR at 100% Capacity" message.

There is also a 3rd commercial, referenced in #128, in which the Hapless Husband is further emasculated by the Cable Conflict Box seizing his pants. Two kids make an appearance in that ad, which I've only seen on a football telecast.

Budweiser is my beer of choice when I'm mowing grass, cutting brush, or doing any outdoors general property maintenance. It's cheap, light but not too light, has a tolerable taste, and perfect for having a few while working outdoors without getting too buzzed.

For those situations, I go with Miller High Life, "The Champagne of Beers".

Isn't Budweiser the best selling beer? I detect some elitism here at BBTF. Shocking.

I don't hate it because it's terrible, mass-produced swill. I hate it because Adolphus Busch stole the entire schtick, lock stock and barrel, from a much better brewery (i.e. Budweiser Bier Bürgerbräu) and then went to court to block that brewery from using their (stolen) name for marketing in the US. That's almost "cartoon supervillain" level of evil.

I mean, the name "Budweiser"? BBB has used it since 1795 because their beer was brewed in the city of Budweis in the kingdom of Bohemia (currently known as ?eské Bud?jovice, and now part of the Czech Republic). The "King of Beers"? That's because BBB was, at one time, the official beer supplier to the court of the King of Württemberg. And so on...

So in 100 years some American company won't be able to call their pizza Chicago Style in China because some Chinese guy will have trademarked it in China.

Which reminds me the Budweiser frogs have to be added to the list of most played-out advertising mascots.

Isn't Budweiser the best selling beer? I detect some elitism here at BBTF. Shocking.

Bud *Light* is the best selling beer in the U.S.. It has almost 20% market share and sells more than twice as much as the #2 beer (Coors Light, which unseated Budweiser for #2 last year).

I'm not a beer snob, but those numbers were absolutely shocking to me the first time I saw them.

Isn't Budweiser the best selling beer? I detect some elitism here at BBTF. Shocking.

Budweiser is terrible beer IMO. And nobody I know drinks it thusly I cannot imagine going to a bar with 3 friends and everyone ordering the same crappy beer. Most of my friends drink Rainier (local to the NW), PBR (the hipster wannabees) or some random microbrew that I've never heard of...but really I'm just a whiskey man now.

For those situations, I go with Miller High Life, "The Champagne of Beers".

I've never had any beer by the Miller Brewing Company that I would purposely drink again. I just can't stomach MGD, Miller Lite, etc. Yet I can down a few 16oz Budweisers while playing a doubleheader. Go figure.

I've never had any beer by the Miller Brewing Company that I would purposely drink again. I just can't stomach MGD, Miller Lite, etc.

I don't much care for any of their other beers, but High Life is OK, as mass-market beers go.

For those situations, I go with Miller High Life, "The Champagne of Beers".


Don't you mean the "Sham Beer of Bottled Pain"?

Sometimes I go for motor oil, which at least doesn't have to be refrigerated.

Bud and Bud Light are made using a relatively high rice content. High Life is the best of the <$1/bottle beers.

This bit doesn't work, because there's the second ad where the husband is trying to speak to his kid about the "DVR at 100% Capacity" message.

That's his girlfriend.

Sometimes I go for motor oil, which at least doesn't have to be refrigerated.

Lassus, I read that with my Tom Waits voice, adding a little chuckle on the end.

I'm not a beer snob, but those numbers were absolutely shocking to me the first time I saw them.

That list is insane. I expected Bud Light would be #1, but their total dominance is surprising, and I had forgotten Keystone Light even existed.

That list is insane. I expected Bud Light would be #1, but their total dominance is surprising, and I had forgotten Keystone Light even existed.

It's the vanilla ice cream effect. Great national distribution, it's everywhere and it's cheap.

The beer company that the big boys have to look out for is Yuengling. If they ever decide to seek outside investors and expand aggressively they'll take a huge cut of the market share away from the Bud/Miller companies. They'll be this generations Coors if they ever do that. So far they have seemed to be pretty content with staying a family business that expands slowly and safely.

The beer company that the big boys have to look out for is Yuengling. If they ever decide to seek outside investors and expand aggressively they'll take a huge cut of the market share away from the Bud/Miller companies. They'll be this generations Coors if they ever do that. So far they have seemed to be pretty content with staying a family business that expands slowly and safely.

That's a good point. Yuengling is much better than the Bud/Miller/Coors light, and I think the retail price is comparable if not equal.

When I was in my early 20s, despite being with a few 100 miles of the brewery, it was hard to find Yuengling at a convenient or grocery store in central WV (bars and liquor stores carried it though). Now it's in every mom and pop shop, right next to the national brands.

If you are ever in PA coal country, definitely do the Yuengling tour.

The beer company that the big boys have to look out for is Yuengling. If they ever decide to seek outside investors and expand aggressively they'll take a huge cut of the market share away from the Bud/Miller companies. They'll be this generations Coors if they ever do that. So far they have seemed to be pretty content with staying a family business that expands slowly and safely.

Yuengling already IS this generation's Coors in the sense that its a regional hit that people outside the region clamor for. However, this generation has a wealth of craft beer at their fingertips, so the appeal of Yuengling isn't that "It is a great beer, but you can only get it in one part of the country," like Coors, but rather "It's the same price as Bud/Miller/Coors and it actually tastes alright."

Yuengling will be expanding westwardly soon. They came close to buying an old Coors plant in Memphis a year or two ago, but backed out because they weren't completely sold on the details. They'll buy or build a new plant somewhere on the western edge of their distribution footprint soon here but, as you said, they are all about slow and safe, they'll probably wait til they find a deal that is too good to pass up.

Yuengling will be expanding westwardly soon. They came close to buying an old Coors plant in Memphis a year or two ago, but backed out because they weren't completely sold on the details. They'll buy or build a new plant somewhere on the western edge of their distribution footprint soon here but, as you said, they are all about slow and safe, they'll probably wait til they find a deal that is too good to pass up.

Do you think they will go west before they go north to New England?

Yuengling already IS this generation's Coors in the sense that its a regional hit that people outside the region clamor for. However, this generation has a wealth of craft beer at their fingertips, so the appeal of Yuengling isn't that "It is a great beer, but you can only get it in one part of the country," like Coors, but rather "It's the same price as Bud/Miller/Coors and it actually tastes alright."

Pretty much, although I don't really think it's significantly better than Bud/Miller/Coors. Given a choice of those four, I guess I'd pick Yuengling, but without much enthusiasm. It'd have to be a VERY limited bar/booze shop that didn't have better options given the wealth of craft and local brews out there nowadays.

Do you think they will go west before they go north to New England?

I think so. I'm not all that knowledgable about the New England beer market, but it seems like there is more competition there with Narragansett, Sam Adams and a few others already being budget mainstay type beers. Plus, Yuengling has already by-passed New England in favor of expanding southernly and westwardly over the last decade. I would assume Texas, America's most beer selling-est state, might be the next target, though of course Shiner already occupies a large, Yuengling-like role there.

Kentucky and Indiana would be easy, but less rewarding, states to expand into. Moving into Texas would probably require a new plant in the area, like that failed Memphis idea, but Kentucky and Indiana might be able to be served by an increase in production in Pottsville.

Yuengling already IS this generation's Coors in the sense that its a regional hit that people outside the region clamor for. However, this generation has a wealth of craft beer at their fingertips, so the appeal of Yuengling isn't that "It is a great beer, but you can only get it in one part of the country," like Coors, but rather "It's the same price as Bud/Miller/Coors and it actually tastes alright."

The plot of Smokey And The Bandit has not aged well.

Pretty much, although I don't really think it's significantly better than Bud/Miller/Coors. Given a choice of those four, I guess I'd pick Yuengling, but without much enthusiasm. It'd have to be a VERY limited bar/booze shop that didn't have better options given the wealth of craft and local brews out there nowadays.

Man, imo Yuengling is a huge step above Bud/Miller/Coors. Although, for me, if I have a gun to my head, I go MGD, then Budweiser, then pull the trigger, then Coors. Coors is just terrible beer.

The beer company that the big boys have to look out for is Yuengling. If they ever decide to seek outside investors and expand aggressively they'll take a huge cut of the market share away from the Bud/Miller companies.

When I was starting college at Clemson, Yuengling wasn't distributing to South Carolina. They entered the market when I was junior, and took over virtually overnight. It was almost certainly the second highest selling beer at bars behind Bud Light after about a month. It wouldn't surprise me if it did the same thing in other markets.

As noted above, it's non-awful and has a price point as good or better than the macro-brews. You could, and can, get Yuengling for about the same price as the Natty lights of the world in and around Clemson.

Back when Coors was regional was it ACTUALLY better than Bud and Schlitz, or was that just a mass delusion / marketing campaign?

My impression is that Coors in 1970 was of no better quality than its competitors, but it was more "modern". From the repeal of prohibition forward, American beer gradually tranformed to a paler, lighter, colder drink. People drank less in taverns and more on the go, outdoors when they wanted something to quench thirst and drink fast. When it was fad beer, Coors (already with dominant market share in all of the mountain states) was comparatively even lighter but also less hoppy, making it very chuggable. With some sharp marketing, it took the country by storm.

My impression is that Coors in 1970 was of no better quality than its competitors, but it was more "modern". From the repeal of prohibition forward, American beer gradually tranformed to a paler, lighter, colder drink. People drank less in taverns and more on the go, outdoors when they wanted something to quench thirst and drink fast. When it was fad beer, Coors (already with dominant market share in all of the mountain states) was comparatively even lighter but also less hoppy, making it very chuggable. With some sharp marketing, it took the country by storm.

I've always thought of Coors Banquet/Coors Heavy as a somewhat richer, maltier, vaguely Helles-like (I mean, as far as macro lager goes) macro lager and, thus, a bit more interesting than Bud Heavy.

Coors Light, on the other hand, does seem like the lightest of the Big 3 light beers. It is the coldest tasting after all!

I'm a big craft beer geek, but I'm not above drinking some light beer. When it comes to light beers though, I don't understand why people buy anything other than the cheapest option. They're all the damn same. Busch Light and Bud Light are virtually indistinguishable, and anyone drinking either isn't trying to notice anything about the taste of the beer anyway, so it tickles me silly when bros insist on buying a keg of Bud Light instead of Busch Light, when Busch Light is half the price. I also love the rednecks who think its crazy to drink their crappy light beer from a can, and tell me that it is "so much better" from the bottle.

I've recently become quite fond of Genny Light for tailgates. 30 beers for 12.99.