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Almost everything revolving around Rodriguez has been a sideshow for years, with co-stars ranging from Madonna to A-Rod’s own reflection in a mirror to a painting of A-Rod as a centaur. The ringmaster just had enough with this iteration of The Great A-Rod and Friends, so he pulled the plug
"Stormed" is a funny way to spell "Galloped"...
Selig really has become the Robert Moses of baseball. Let's face it, Bud can do pretty much what he wants at this point. I still think he was just in the right place at the right time regarding the explosion in demand for entertainment content, but I will tip my hat to him and the way he has consolidated his power. He comes across as a doofus but he is no one to #### with, that's for sure.
If you were to list off all the dumb or weird things the rest of us have done over the last 20 years we'd come across as goofballs, too.
I know we all want to make centaur jokes and blame A-Rod because he's so unlikeable, but it really sounds like he's getting shafted in this arbitration.
As God is my witness, I will quit this site if the horse jokes stop.
It's hard to make Alex Rodriguez a sympathetic figure. MLB and Selig's "the King does not deign to speak on this matter" aloofness has managed to do just that.
However, I think the net benefit to MLB probably outweighs that.
Most people still hold Alex in lower esteem than Bud.
A public opinion poll might say so, but would anyone so much as cross the street to get Bud's autograph?
Really? We're calling A-Rod equivalent to Mike Tyson and Rob Ford?
Only Greg K, though, would come off as (at least) half-animal, though, I'm pretty sure.
My initial impression is to agree with Horowitz's ruling. Presumably Manfred and other witnesses explained MLB's justification for the suspension, so I don't see why ARod's attorneys needed to specifically question Selig. I suppose ARod's attorneys wanted to try to show through their questions and Selig's answers that Selig has a vendetta against ARod -- e.g. that he is trying to make an example of ARod in an effort to cement his status as the commissioner who rid the sport of steroids -- which is the reason why he suspended him for the absurd 211 games. But I frankly don't think the arbitrator cares about any of that. The arbitrator is going to make his decision based on the CBA/JDA and on precedent and on how MLB has treated other players in similar situations, etc.
Budfuddled Selig wins again, the man is brilliant. We can't delay a minute further in enshrining him into the Baseball Hall Of Fame. His plaque will hang right next to another man of great fame and genius, Bowie Kuhn.
Why wouldn't Selig get up there and proudly explain himself to the panel (and the press)? Bizarre.
He also refuses to return to arbitration unless Selig agrees to testify and be confronted by his lawyers.
Can anyone point me to an opinion that spells out why this matter isn't restricted to arbitration by the MLB CBA?
In an explosive interview Wednesday afternoon with WFAN’s Mike Francesa, Rodriguez reiterated his contention that Selig’s beef with him, his motivation for the 211-game suspension, is personal.
“He hates my guts,” Rodriguez said of Selig. “I don’t think he likes big salaries. One hundred percent, this is personal. I think this is about his legacy, and it’s about my legacy. He’s trying to destroy me.
“By the way, he’s retiring in , and to put me on his big mantel on the way out, that’s a hell of a trophy.”
Rodriguez... said on Francesa’s show that he was innocent of MLB’s charges of illegal performance-enhancing drug usage (from 2010 through 2012) and obstructing MLB’s investigation...
Rodriguez complained to Francesa that such testimony would open himself up to more discipline from MLB
The Players Association, which has a stake in this as well, backed Rodriguez’s frustration, but pledged to keep trying the case. A statement from the PA read, in part: “The MLBPA believes that every player has the right under our arbitration process to directly confront his accuser. We argued strenuously to the Arbitrator in Alex’s case that the Commissioner should be required to appear and testify. While we respectfully disagree with the Arbitrator’s ruling, we will abide by it as we continue to vigorously challenge Alex’s suspension within the context of this hearing.”
In other highlights from Rodriguez’s interview with Francesa:
– He described MLB’s star witness Anthony Bosch as someone who helped him with nutrition and weight loss.
– He said he envisions himself as the Yankees’ third baseman on Opening Day.
– He denied, for the first time, The Post’s story in Oct. 2012 that he sent an autographed baseball to two attractive female fans during American League Championship Series Game 1.
Yeah, if it was just the standard 50-game suspension, I can see him not necessarily being all that useful on the point. But given that 211 games seems have been a discretionary punishment that Selig just pulled out of his ass, I think he really needs to be up there explaining what the basis for 211 was.
*the emptiest suit in the Baseball HOF (or any HOF for that matter
“I don’t think he likes big salaries.
The rules are pretty lax, so the arbitrator could theoretically allow it.
Of course he could, and it's rather shocking that he didn't. It does make the proceeding rather farcical.
I think he really needs to be up there explaining what the basis for 211 was.
I think it's pretty simple. The 211 games was estimated to be all of 2014 and the rest of 2013 at the point where Bud levied the penalties.
The reason A-Rod got a bigger penalty than the other guys is because he actively tried to interfere with the MLB investigation and endeavored to hide the evidence.
The odds are at least 5-1 that the Court will agree with the arbitrator that the testimony was not "pertinent and material", but, given the right judge, it does create an opening for a challenge.
And the reason Selig gave Melky 0 extra games for that?
NEW YORK -- Alex Rodriguez took his fight against Major League Baseball out of the hearing room and onto the airwaves Wednesday afternoon, flatly denying on a radio show that he had used any performance-enhancing drugs supplied by Anthony Bosch or Biogenesis.
"I did nothing. About the Bosch nonsense? Nothing," Rodriguez said in an interview on WFAN
But Rodriguez and McCarroll found the composure to issue blanket denials of any PED usage connected with Biogenesis and Bosch, who is MLB's key witness against him, and to accuse Selig of conducting a vendetta against him.
"Why did Ryan Braun get [only] 65 games with a failed drug test? Because he's from Milwaukee?" Tacopina asked, a reference to the team Selig owned before he became commissioner.
As for the 211-game suspension levied on him, Rodriguez said, "I shouldn't even serve one inning."
Rodriguez also acknowledged being "angry" at the Yankees, but said he hopes to be playing third base for them on Opening Day.
"All I want to do is play baseball," he said. "This has been a disgusting process for everyone. I'm embarrassed to be involved in it."
Rodriguez denied having named other players in an effort to exonerate himself...
Rodriguez also said that at one point in the hearing, Manfred said to him, "This wasn't my decision, it was Bud Selig's decision."
So, if the arbitration is a farce and a kangaroo court, how does the MLBPA fit into this? It's not as if Bud could pick his cousin Murray to arbitrate the grievance; the pool of arbitrators is mutually agreed to.
Is A-Rod also prepared to sue the union for failure to represent?
It's a shame it has come to this. I wonder if things would have turned out better if Selig had tried a carrot and stick approach.
Mike Francesa, horse whisperer
Is ARod's suspension 211 games or is it through the end of next season? For some reason I had it in my head that he was just suspended through 2014 (I know that 211 games would've been through the end of 2014).
As you guys noted, it's the 211 that makes Selig's testimony important/critical.
I am of course on record that a suspension close to 211 simply will not stand....
That's like Whitey Bulger asking the Attorney General to show up at his hearing, because he doesnt like the way it was done.
Excuse me what you said at the outset of this affair, and said repeatedly was that a suspension of more than 50 games was illegal. You repeated said that the Comm'r cannot "stack" violations and on this basis no one could get more than 50 games for first offense.
it had been pointed out to you, that other players such as Braun had received more than 50 but this was somehow glossed over by you as it was a settlement and didnt have precedential value and then you went ahead and cited the Melkey Cabrera settlement as some sort of precedent for the argument that you cant get more than 50 games.
Do you still stand by that statement that more than 50 is illegal or are you hedging your bets by saying it wont be 211?
You've completely mischaracterized my statements and position. You've made so many errors above in characterizing my position that I'm not going to bother to correct them. I would take the time to do so if I thought you were posting in good faith.
The arbitrator could also choose to hold MLB's refusal to put Selig on the stand against them, and feel free to attribute the most malign of motives to Selig. Whether that would make any difference to the arbitrator's decision I don't know since I haven't been following this particularly closely, but that's certainly not without precedent even in civil litigation, let alone an arbitration where the rules are quite loosey-goosey.
should the arbitrator 'ignore' a-rod walking out on the hearings?
he would've trotted out of the hearing
A very collected trot, in which the horse has great elevation of stride and seems to pause between putting down its feet (it has a great amount of suspension in the stride). Described very well like a horse "trotting under water", it takes great strength and training to get a good passage.
Ideally in both the piaffe and the passage tempo should be exactly the same as in trot.
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