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I like that in the BTF news feed, the last four words of the headline are cut off. Probably gave Mariners fans a heart attack.
I'm curious what this is based on.
I also don't see why they can't overpay for Felix to stay. He is the only player they have signed beyond 2013 so they have some leeway
As best as I can tell the Yankees have 3 consensus Top 50 guys so that alone should keep them out of the "weak" category I would think.
I think my point still stands that the real overstatement is saying that any farm system with those 3 guys is "weak."
I don’t think that makes them “weak.”
And then there is Ian Kennedy, who seems to have been appropriately ranked. I'm guessing this sort of over and under ranking is similar to most other systems.
There are just more Yankees fans than everything else. The other teams that could rival the Yanks in number of fans all seem to have some sort of inherent pessimism, Boston, Chicago, LAN.
What I've come to realize is that anyone who is a "fan" of a given team systemically overrates that team's prospects. The number of Braves' fans who flat refused to believe that trading Tyler Flowers was acceptable still boggles my mind a bit, and the number who still think Viscaino is an ace in waiting make my eyes water.
I guess like the Yankees it's the lesser prospects that seem to make an impact.
Seems like it's even MORE true for the Cards than the Yankees. Guys like Freese, Allen, Jon Jay, etc. really had no prospect hype, but then they come up to the majors and all they do is produce. Meanwhile they trade away big name guys who amount to nothing like Brett Wallace, Daric Barton, and Anthony Reyes.
I think the Cards still suffer a bit from the old LaRussa viewpoint of better to have a veteran who's proven he's good than a rookie who might be great. I think that even end of tenure LaRussa got over that to an extent, but I can remember more than a few trades where the Cards definitely overpaid for a veteran simply because the organization didn't seem to correctly value its young talent. All that to say I wonder if the fans don't still do that to an extent, "If LaRussa wouldn't have been impressed with this kid then why should I be?"
I think a lot of that is overstated by fans who are cuckoo for young prospects. TLR never had a problem playing a guy who was producing or looked good out there, and he even put a lot of them in a position to succeed by platooning them advantageously, yes he will take a track record career over an unproven, but so will pretty much everyone in a management position in any field. But guys like Yadier Molina were given starting jobs the second they showed him anything, other guys like Schumaker TLR went out of his way to find them MORE playing time. What is funny is people will point to players that TLR supposedly didn't support(see Colby Rasmus/JD Drew) and at the end of the year, those guys are top five on the team in plate appearances. Tlr ran teams don't have a set line up, don't have a set batting order and sure as heck don't have an everyday lineup. It's not his disdain for youth that benches the players, it's his love of monkeying around with the roster that benches the players.
Add Wang and maybe even Phelps to this as well.
You obviously know the situation better than I do. But living in Cards country I know that the popular opinion is still that he didn't like young players (most people will actually point to Ankiel and how LaRussa mercilessly ran him into the ground at too young an age yadda yadda). The perception is more important to the fact in the present discussion.
In regards to Ankiel. I've never heard anyone, even the most ardent anti-Larussa crusader say anything about TLR mercilessly ran him into the ground. The common wisdom seems to be the opposite, that TLR's insistence on pampering Ankiel led to the kid developing mental blocks. It started with TLR playing head games with the opposition by not naming the starting pitcher in the playoffs, then after the blow ups, his attempts at pampering him that made it a bigger deal than it should have been. Some argue that if TLR would have just gone about everything as a normal person, that Ankiels mental issues would never have surfaced.
Some argue that if TLR would have just gone about everything as a normal person, that Ankiels mental issues would never have surfaced.
As a rookie, Ankiel had trouble all year throwing the ball to first: there were a ton of plays in which he threw away or nearly threw away pick-off throws or one-hoppers back to the mound. It was weird when it happened, and several of us Cardinal fans noticed it, but it wasn't until he fell apart in October that it became clear that there was something really wrong. Whatever it was, though, it was hanging around Ankiel from the very beginning of the year. I don't think that kind of serious anxiety issue could be avoided by anything that Tony did or didn't do or whether Mike Matheny was catching him or not. Sooner or later, that dam was going to spring a leak.
You ever read "3 Nights in August"? I know that what happened to Ankiel pained TLR, just from his description of the conversations he had about him with the staff. I did think it was interesting that he figured that if Mike Matheny doesn't get a hunting knife for his birthday then Ankiel is still pitching.
locally there is very quiet rumors that Ankiel was hitting more than alcohol on his down time and that might not have helped his mental condition.
This is news to me, though 1) I'd imagine most rich, 20-something men enjoy something more than alcohol in their free time and 2) it might have helped the anxiety more than it hurt it. This kind of gossipy rumor-mongering that STL fans got into during the late 90s and on (the hand-wringing over Lankford and his penchant for hookers being way up there) never sat well with me.
Re: The Onion's famous headline "Yankees Ensure 2003 Pennant By Signing Every Player In Baseball," if you look at this team's roster, it sorta looks like they're trying to win the 2003 pennant. Jeter, A-Rod, Eric Chavez, Andruw Jones, Ichiro Suzuki..
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